Had Water World in my hands today!

[Foxsolo2000]

There is an old saying of what goes around, comes around and in doing a good deed somehting good should come back to you. Its a nice theory, one that I hold to and believe me I have seen its effects on those who have jipped me

[Pipster]

I can't see how you'll benefit in the long run, he's going to check all his Atari games on ebay now and bamg goes your cheap 5s or 6s.

[zach1845]

I can't see how you'll benefit in the long run, he's going to check all his Atari games on ebay now and bamg goes your cheap 5s or 6s.

 

I agree. now every price he wants will be top dollar ebay prices.

you could of offered a fair price of say 20.00

that way he makes money and you get a deal

[homerwannabee]

you could of offered a fair price of say 20.00

 

:rolling:

[Pipster]

Not exactly a fair price but seeing as everybody moans about having to buy on ebay any idea where you can get cheaper rarer games if you're going to tell the seller he's not charging enough?

[zach1845]

as far as the owner he would of been happy

I know most swap shops around me are happy to get 2.00 for an atari cart

because they just sit there.

 

 

quote name='Pipster' date='Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:27 PM' post='1412591']

Not exactly a fair price but seeing as everybody moans about having to buy on ebay any idea where you can get cheaper rarer games if you're going to tell the seller he's not charging enough?

[+Random Terrain]

Now that even people out in the middle of nowhere have an internet connection, if you run a store and haven't bothered to look up how much games are on your own when it's as easy as typing a few words and clicking a mouse a couple of times, you don't deserve big bucks for rare games. Educating store owners who are out of the loop won't help you in the long run since greed will probably kick in and they'll want to charge you $50 for Pac-Man. Or they'll want to hold onto every Atari 2600 cartridge that comes in and wait 20 years to sell them, similar to nagn2, in case the games will be worth even more in the future.

 

Unless the store is having money troubles, I think it's best to keep them in the dark for as long as possible. If the guy eventually turns on a computer and bothers to look and see that he sold you a rare game for $5, he might be pissed off, but as someone else said, what makes him so special that he should get the big money? What about the original owner of the game? Why not track him down and tell him to sell it on eBay?

[Grundy]

Sorry....I'm a VERY karmic person, and I believe that deeds done, good AND bad, come back around, but....

 

Theres no way in HELL that I would have told him...nope! Sorry, but thats not called "fleecing", thats called finding a good DEAL. What do you think the seller paid for it? A dime? A dollar? I would have grabbed it up and plunked down my .50 or whatever...you bet!

 

Sorry, but that whole "Indiana Jones mentality" of "It BELONGS in a MUSEUM" is HOGwash... Why? So that it can sit behind plexiglass and be ogled by school kids and tour groups? SAME thing in this case...

 

My friend is a big metal detector enthusiast. Recently he found a small cache of Civil War goodies...rifles, knives, jewelery, etc. He made the terrible ERROR of blabbing about his find, and the "Historical Society" stepped in and claimed that due to the "Historical Signifigance" of said items, that they were to be "claimed by the state/county" . Sorry, but thats just plain bullshit...no other way to say it. Sorry, but when i found my XONOX double enders years back, and when I these days find harder to find NES games at yard sales, I dont walk up to the seller(s) and say "Oh..hey..this game here, Dragon Warrior III...you have it marked $1...its worth $30..let me give you $30" No WAY! The name of the game is "hunt 'n score"

 

It's nice that you did the "right thing" and all, you are a better man than I...Cause I'd be at home playin WaterWorld.

 

-Joe

[the 5th ghost]

TSK TSK TSK...

 

The Atari gods smiled on you, and you spat in their face.

 

That Waterworld cart WAS your reward for good behavior, and you gave it away. For what? Money? The root of all evil? Shame on you.

 

[Zwackery]

you could of offered a fair price of say 20.00

 

:rolling:

 

It only went for the opening bid of $49.99. (Shipping was cheap at $2.99, although do you think that means a bubble envelope?)

 

(Minus the Insertion Fee = $1.20 + Gallery Plus = $0.75 + Final Value Fee = $2.12, plus another $1.83 if using PayPal standard rate)

 

Hopefully slosu didn't tell the seller it was worth megabucks, but slosu was doing what he felt was right.

[homerwannabee]

you could of offered a fair price of say 20.00

 

:rolling:

 

It only went for the opening bid of $49.99. (Shipping was cheap at $2.99, although do you think that means a bubble envelope?)

 

(Minus the Insertion Fee = $1.20 + Gallery Plus = $0.75 + Final Value Fee = $2.12, plus another $1.83 if using PayPal standard rate)

 

Hopefully slosu didn't tell the seller it was worth megabucks, but slosu was doing what he felt was right.

Even in today's market $35 or $40 would be more of a fair price. $20 is still too darn low for this game. Now perhaps in a few years $20 will be a fair price. But today it is still around $40. By the way whoever got that Waterworld for $49.99 got a heck of a deal.

[Recycled]

You are a honest man........

And you earn your fee for your action- GREAT!

 

 

besides....it wasn't sealed. So many collectors wouldn't bother with it. If you can play the game...it's worthless...

[Zwackery]

My aim is to track primarily eBay sales of this cart over the course of 1 year as a look at market fluctuation.

 

So, tracking from June 07 to June 08...

 

Jun-29-08 - loose Waterworld = $43.88

Jun-06-08 - loose Waterworld = $91

May-20-08 - loose Waterworld = $51.09

Apr-25-08 - loose Waterworld = $56.00 (w/ instruction manual and poster)

Apr-16-08 - loose Waterworld = $53.36

Apr-13-08 - loose Waterworld = $66

Apr-02-08 - loose Waterworld = $73

Mar-24-08 - loose Waterworld = $69 (w/ instruction manual & hint book)

Mar-20-08 - loose Waterworld = $69 (started at $0.99, worked up over 11 bids - a month between carts can make a difference)

Feb-25-08 - loose Waterworld = $42.03 (mixed in a lot with 16 other carts & 2 joysticks, only identified in the auction text as "Swordquest")

Feb-22-08 - loose Waterworld = $77

*Feb-21-08 - loose Waterworld = $73.50 starting price, $97.50 BIN, it had some bids, seller pulled auction before scheduled end on 2/26

Feb-20-08 - loose Waterworld = $69.99 BIN, did not sell (main label slightly crooked)

Feb-19-08 - loose Waterworld (w/ loose Earthworld and Fireworld) = $102.50 <-- ouch

Feb-12-08 - loose Waterworld = $73.01

Feb-11-08 - loose Waterworld = $45 shipped, on AtariAge

Jan-31-08 - loose Waterworld = $81.33 (complete docs + loose EW (manual, comic, poster) & loose FW w/ manual & comic)

Jan-27-08 - loose Waterword = $147.50 (proving all you need are 2 determined bidders who are ignorant of past value )

Jan-23-08 - loose Waterworld = $72.99 BIN, did not sell

Jan-21-08 - loose Waterworld (w/ loose Earthworld and Fireworld) = $52.27

Jan-03-08 - loose Waterworld (w/ loose Earthworld and Fireworld) = $49.89

Jan-03-08 - loose Waterworld = $74.99 BIN, did not sell

Dec-28-07 - loose Waterworld = $70 BIN (w/ free shipping), did sell (relist of Dec-20 cart)

Dec-20-07 - loose Waterworld = $70 BIN (w/ free shipping), did not sell

Dec-20-07 - loose Waterworld = $74.99 BIN, did not sell

Dec-08-07 - loose Waterworld = $71.00 (starting price $0.99, free shipping from Canada letter post to North America)

Dec-03-07 - loose Waterworld = $66.07 (starting price $59.95, $79.95 BIN)

Dec-02-07 - loose Waterworld = $41.00 (starting price $9.99)

Nov-25-07 - loose Waterworld = $49.99

Nov-19-07 - loose Waterworld w/ manual, comics, sheet, and poster = $128.37

Nov-17-07 - loose Waterworld = $56

Oct-14-07 - loose Waterworld w/ instructions (plus the other 2 SQ games loose w/ instructions) = $76

*Oct-07-07 - loose Waterworld w/ instructions + cheat sheet = $125.00 opening bid, 0 bids

Oct-07-07 - loose Waterworld = $92.50

Sep-25-07 - loose Waterworld = $66

*Sep-25-07 - loose Waterworld, does not work properly = $21.51 (nice looking cart)

Sep-03-07 - loose Waterworld (w/ loose Spacechase) = $76

Aug-16-07 - loose Waterworld = $67.66

Aug-13-07 - loose Waterworld = $76.00

Aug-06-07 - loose Waterworld = $64.99 BIN (original BIN was $74.99)

Jul-06-07 - Waterworld CIB = $266

Jun-09-07 - loose Waterworld = $73.59

Jun-02-07 - loose Waterworld (w/ 2 other loose SQ games) = $71.00

*May-31-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $69.95, BIN $84.95, final value unknown (relisting of May-15 item)

*May-15-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $74.95, BIN $94.95, did not sell (relist of Apr-30 item)

*Apr-30-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $74.95, BIN $94.95, did not sell

*Mar-30-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $0.99, BIN $80, final value unknown

*Mar-27-07 - loose Waterworld w/ manuals: opening bid $99.95 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Mar-19-07 - loose Waterworld, $1.00 (after 3 bids), BIN $75.00, final value unknown

*Mar-12-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $54.95 (0 bids), BIN $69.95, final value unknown

*Feb-28-07 - loose Waterworld, opening bid $1.00 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Feb-07-07 - loose Waterworld mixed in lot w/ other carts & console, opening bid $75.00 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Feb-01-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $48.88 (1 bid), final value unknown

*Jan-27-07 - loose Waterworld w/ Vader 2600: opening bid $0.99 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Jan-21-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $59.95 (0 bids), BIN $99.95, final value unknown (relist of Jan-16 item)

*Jan-16-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $69.95 (0 bids), BIN $109.95, did not sell (relist of Jan-13 item)

*Jan-13-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $89.95 (0 bids), BIN $149.95, did not sell

Edited June 30, 2008 by Zwackery

[slosu]

Boy oh Boy! This is to all of the HATERS out there! YES the Atari Gods are REALLY smiling down on me!!! You may not have agreed with the choice I made on turning the "SHOP OWNER" on to the rarity of Water World but yes folks it is COMING AROUND!!! As of today I will be working for the "SHOP OWNER" (part time) when I have free time! I will be the one pricing ALL of his retro & classic games! This means NES, SUPER NES, SEGA, ATARI, COLECOVISION, INTELEVISION ext... This guy has a small warehouse just filled with this crap! I have been into gaming for years now and I must say that I've never seen anything like this. We are talking Thousands of games just waiting for collectors to get there little hands on! And yes people my hands WILL be on them first! Can you believe this guy has three more copies of Water World!? One with a manual but not the comic book.

 

Honestly people, when I was going throught this stuff I felt like I was at a Children's Palace or Kiddie City minus the Mystique and Playaround games LOL!! The owner has no problem at all filling out holes in my collection for payment for helping him out! That was his suggestion, I eagerly agreed!

 

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[Tom_Explodes]

That's great, man! Very very cool.

[homerwannabee]

you could of offered a fair price of say 20.00

 

 

It only went for the opening bid of $49.99. (Shipping was cheap at $2.99, although do you think that means a bubble envelope?)

 

(Minus the Insertion Fee = $1.20 + Gallery Plus = $0.75 + Final Value Fee = $2.12, plus another $1.83 if using PayPal standard rate)

 

Hopefully slosu didn't tell the seller it was worth megabucks, but slosu was doing what he felt was right.

Even in today's market $35 or $40 would be more of a fair price. $20 is still too darn low for this game. Now perhaps in a few years $20 will be a fair price. But today it is still around $40. By the way whoever got that Waterworld for $49.99 got a heck of a deal.

 

Dec-20-07 - loose Waterworld = $70 BIN (w/ free shipping), did not sell

Dec-20-07 - loose Waterworld = $74.99 BIN, did not sell

Dec-08-07 - loose Waterworld = $71.00 (starting price $0.99, free shipping from Canada letter post to North America)

Dec-03-07 - loose Waterworld = $66.07 (starting price $59.95, $79.95 BIN)

Dec-02-07 - loose Waterworld = $41.00 (starting price $9.99)

Nov-25-07 - loose Waterworld = $49.99

Nov-19-07 - loose Waterworld w/ manual, comics, sheet, and poster = $128.37

Nov-17-07 - loose Waterworld = $56

Oct-14-07 - loose Waterworld w/ instructions (plus the other 2 SQ games loose w/ instructions) = $76

*Oct-07-07 - loose Waterworld w/ instructions + cheat sheet = $125.00 opening bid, 0 bids

Oct-07-07 - loose Waterworld = $92.50

Sep-25-07 - loose Waterworld = $66

*Sep-25-07 - loose Waterworld, does not work properly = $21.51 (nice looking cart)

Sep-03-07 - loose Waterworld (w/ loose Spacechase) = $76

Aug-16-07 - loose Waterworld = $67.66

Aug-13-07 - loose Waterworld = $76.00

Aug-06-07 - loose Waterworld = $64.99 BIN (original BIN was $74.99)

Jul-06-07 - Waterworld CIB = $266

Jun-09-07 - loose Waterworld = $73.59

Jun-02-07 - loose Waterworld (w/ 2 other loose SQ games) = $71.00

*May-31-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $69.95, BIN $84.95, final value unknown (relisting of May-15 item)

*May-15-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $74.95, BIN $94.95, did not sell (relist of Apr-30 item)

*Apr-30-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $74.95, BIN $94.95, did not sell

*Mar-30-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $0.99, BIN $80, final value unknown

*Mar-27-07 - loose Waterworld w/ manuals: opening bid $99.95 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Mar-19-07 - loose Waterworld, $1.00 (after 3 bids), BIN $75.00, final value unknown

*Mar-12-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $54.95 (0 bids), BIN $69.95, final value unknown

*Feb-28-07 - loose Waterworld, opening bid $1.00 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Feb-07-07 - loose Waterworld mixed in lot w/ other carts & console, opening bid $75.00 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Feb-01-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $48.88 (1 bid), final value unknown

*Jan-27-07 - loose Waterworld w/ Vader 2600: opening bid $0.99 (0 bids), final value unknown

*Jan-21-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $59.95 (0 bids), BIN $99.95, final value unknown (relist of Jan-16 item)

*Jan-16-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $69.95 (0 bids), BIN $109.95, did not sell (relist of Jan-13 item)

*Jan-13-07 - loose Waterworld: opening bid $89.95 (0 bids), BIN $149.95, did not sell

Told you $49.99 was a heck of a deal. Looks like Waterworld averages between $60-$70 according to the list.

[+Nathan Strum]

I will be the one pricing ALL of his retro & classic games! This means NES, SUPER NES, SEGA, ATARI, COLECOVISION, INTELEVISION ext... This guy has a small warehouse just filled with this crap! I have been into gaming for years now and I must say that I've never seen anything like this. We are talking Thousands of games just waiting for collectors to get there little hands on! And yes people my hands WILL be on them first!

Well, if you run across a CIB Crazy Climber...

 

[Fixitguy74]

Boy oh Boy! This is to all of the HATERS out there! YES the Atari Gods are REALLY smiling down on me!!! You may not have agreed with the choice I made on turning the "SHOP OWNER" on to the rarity of Water World but yes folks it is COMING AROUND!!! As of today I will be working for the "SHOP OWNER" (part time) when I have free time! I will be the one pricing ALL of his retro & classic games! This means NES, SUPER NES, SEGA, ATARI, COLECOVISION, INTELEVISION ext... This guy has a small warehouse just filled with this crap! I have been into gaming for years now and I must say that I've never seen anything like this. We are talking Thousands of games just waiting for collectors to get there little hands on! And yes people my hands WILL be on them first! Can you believe this guy has three more copies of Water World!? One with a manual but not the comic book.

 

Honestly people, when I was going throught this stuff I felt like I was at a Children's Palace or Kiddie City minus the Mystique and Playaround games LOL!! The owner has no problem at all filling out holes in my collection for payment for helping him out! That was his suggestion, I eagerly agreed!

 

-

NICE!!!!!!! I wish I could have gotten a job like that. I personally would of chalked it up to a great deal on a rare cart and payed the shop keeper and split. I feel if it is not sneaky, immoral or illegal then why offer unnecessary info to make things worse for you. I guess though your route payed off better in the long run.

[HammR25]

Boy oh Boy! This is to all of the HATERS out there! YES the Atari Gods are REALLY smiling down on me!!! You may not have agreed with the choice I made on turning the "SHOP OWNER" on to the rarity of Water World but yes folks it is COMING AROUND!!! As of today I will be working for the "SHOP OWNER" (part time) when I have free time! I will be the one pricing ALL of his retro & classic games! This means NES, SUPER NES, SEGA, ATARI, COLECOVISION, INTELEVISION ext... This guy has a small warehouse just filled with this crap! I have been into gaming for years now and I must say that I've never seen anything like this. We are talking Thousands of games just waiting for collectors to get there little hands on! And yes people my hands WILL be on them first! Can you believe this guy has three more copies of Water World!? One with a manual but not the comic book.

 

Honestly people, when I was going throught this stuff I felt like I was at a Children's Palace or Kiddie City minus the Mystique and Playaround games LOL!! The owner has no problem at all filling out holes in my collection for payment for helping him out! That was his suggestion, I eagerly agreed!

 

-

 

 

So I guess you also had a waterworld in your hands today as well. lol

[racer raul]

You're a better person than I... I would have picked up cheap and sold it here or ebay... I don't keep games that I don't like, that being one of them and since I don't collect I would have let some one on here make me an offer on it to add it to their collection.

[slosu]

This is NOT a job, I already have a good paying job. This is something I'm doing in MY OWN time when I want. The owner has another business that keeps him busy which is why he has piles of games just collecting dust. That is where I come in. These games will be put into circulation again when I go through them. Of course I do get the pick of the litter! Since this is NOT a job the owner said he has no problem giving me games for LITTLE or NO cost for helping him out.

 

 

I know some of you think I should have snagged the Water World cart to begin with, maybe I would have had he been watching me go through these boxes. But he left ALL ALONE with total trust with nobody around. I thought that was cool so I was just being cool back. Look where it got me, I will be filing holes in my collection for nothing and something I like doing. What goes around DOES come around!

[kroogur]

Boy oh Boy! This is to all of the HATERS out there! YES the Atari Gods are REALLY smiling down on me!!! You may not have agreed with the choice I made on turning the "SHOP OWNER" on to the rarity of Water World but yes folks it is COMING AROUND!!! As of today I will be working for the "SHOP OWNER" (part time) when I have free time! I will be the one pricing ALL of his retro & classic games! This means NES, SUPER NES, SEGA, ATARI, COLECOVISION, INTELEVISION ext... This guy has a small warehouse just filled with this crap! I have been into gaming for years now and I must say that I've never seen anything like this. We are talking Thousands of games just waiting for collectors to get there little hands on! And yes people my hands WILL be on them first! Can you believe this guy has three more copies of Water World!? One with a manual but not the comic book.

 

Honestly people, when I was going throught this stuff I felt like I was at a Children's Palace or Kiddie City minus the Mystique and Playaround games LOL!! The owner has no problem at all filling out holes in my collection for payment for helping him out! That was his suggestion, I eagerly agreed!

 

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Thats great news! i'm glad your good deed went rewarded!

[doctorclu]

...and just uploading those pics from the ebay auctions before they disappear. There is nothing more annoying that looking at threads years later with links to ebay auctions long gone.

 

Well, ultimately I have to say, if I don't care as much for the owner, I give them what they ask for. If I saw a Waterworld for $5, I'd buy it straight up. Business is happy on both side, we both walk away happy. He thinks he got $5 out of me for a old Atari game, and I walk away knowing that the current market (be it ever so built on faith by an Atari community and by those of a online market so volitile) value of the game is a LOT more than $5.

 

Now... if I CARE about the owner, we do repeated business, ect, I let them know what I know. And I have done this on many occations.

 

I picked up a book at a bookstore, Star Trek. On the cover was signatures from Shatner, Nemoy, and Kelley. Kelley (Dr. McCoy is now dead, so being quite valueable). So at any rate, the store owner was going to sell it to me for $2, I said "Well, to be fair...." and I pointed out of the signatures. He's researching it, probably will be more than I want to pay in the end, but I like the guy.

 

And here's the bottom line, he gives me 15% off every time I buy comics, and great deals on other things. So we need to be good to each other right?

 

Happy holidays all!

 

(Ebay auctions listed in this thread ended at $52.58 and $49.99)

Edited December 29, 2007 by doctorclu

[Zwackery]

Told you $49.99 was a heck of a deal. Looks like Waterworld averages between $60-$70 according to the list.

Oh please. $50 for something that averages out at around $66 (for the last 12 auctions where only a loose cart was sold - meaning roughly 25% off the average) is hardly "a heck of a deal". The whole reason why I've been tracking these is to actually prove that you were wrong in your estimation about "a heck of a deal". WW for $5 - now that would be a deal.

[Rik]

Congrats on the honesty.I used to be that honest,but sometimes one can be too honest for their own good,and just end up being shot in the foot,and YOU end up being taken advantage of.One has to be careful with this honesty stuff.There comes times in life when honesty is not always the best way!And im not referring to the waterworld cart situation in particular,just general life.