drac030 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) SpartaDOS X 4.41 has officially been released: http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=sdx_upgrade_en Problems - if any - with the software and documentation please report (preferably in Polish, but English is also accepted) here: http://atariarea.krap.pl/forum/viewtopic.p...id=77286#p77286 Edited February 7, 2008 by drac030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) Cool. Does anybody know if this would work on a Classic's Flash Cart or if it's possible to burn an eprom and put it on a regular cart? OK. Answered my own question. And it is yes. Allan Edited February 7, 2008 by Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan49 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Oh man that rocks! Does anyone know of a hack for the SDX cart to allow the use of the 27C010 EPROM? Or is the intSDX GAL code good enough to support the larger chip on the SDX cart? Regards, Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Awesome! Atarimax flashcart images provided to boot - woohoo!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8pdct Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 SpartaDOS X 4.41 has officially been released: http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=sdx_upgrade_en Problems - if any - with the software and documentation please report (preferably in Polish, but English is also accepted) here: http://atariarea.krap.pl/forum/viewtopic.p...id=77286#p77286 can this be used for the original SDX cart? James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan49 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 SpartaDOS X 4.41 has officially been released: http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=sdx_upgrade_en Problems - if any - with the software and documentation please report (preferably in Polish, but English is also accepted) here: http://atariarea.krap.pl/forum/viewtopic.p...id=77286#p77286 can this be used for the original SDX cart? James Not in its present form. The SDX requires a 27512 EPROM (64k bytes) to hold versions 4.20 and 4.21. These newer version of SDX require a 27C010 size EPROM (128k bytes). I haven't seen any info on if the SDX can be modified to support a 27C010 size chip. So far only alternative flash carts for the 8bit and a internal SDX cart seem to be the only options for this. I would prefer to modify my SDX cart. Just have to look at this and the intSDX modifications to see if they can be applied to the SDX cart. Does anyone know if the GAL code that is provided for the intSDX is a recreation of the programming code used for the programmable logic chip in the SDX cart? It would be nice to populate a few bare SDX cart boards that I have. By the way if anyone is interested in scanned images of these boards let me know. Regards, Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Guitarman Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 SpartaDOS X 4.41 has officially been released: http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=sdx_upgrade_en Problems - if any - with the software and documentation please report (preferably in Polish, but English is also accepted) here: http://atariarea.krap.pl/forum/viewtopic.p...id=77286#p77286 can this be used for the original SDX cart? James Not in its present form. The SDX requires a 27512 EPROM (64k bytes) to hold versions 4.20 and 4.21. These newer version of SDX require a 27C010 size EPROM (128k bytes). I haven't seen any info on if the SDX can be modified to support a 27C010 size chip. So far only alternative flash carts for the 8bit and a internal SDX cart seem to be the only options for this. I would prefer to modify my SDX cart. Just have to look at this and the intSDX modifications to see if they can be applied to the SDX cart. Does anyone know if the GAL code that is provided for the intSDX is a recreation of the programming code used for the programmable logic chip in the SDX cart? It would be nice to populate a few bare SDX cart boards that I have. By the way if anyone is interested in scanned images of these boards let me know. Regards, Glenn I would love a scan of the bare SDX cart board. This is also the same board used for the Diamond OS cart. Would be fun to make a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan49 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Here ya go. Take notice the FTe logo! Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I really need to stop being lazy and get out the 'ol 8-bit, max-cart, and sio2pc connector... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8pdct Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 SpartaDOS X 4.41 has officially been released: http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=sdx_upgrade_en Problems - if any - with the software and documentation please report (preferably in Polish, but English is also accepted) here: http://atariarea.krap.pl/forum/viewtopic.p...id=77286#p77286 can this be used for the original SDX cart? James Not in its present form. The SDX requires a 27512 EPROM (64k bytes) to hold versions 4.20 and 4.21. These newer version of SDX require a 27C010 size EPROM (128k bytes). I haven't seen any info on if the SDX can be modified to support a 27C010 size chip. So far only alternative flash carts for the 8bit and a internal SDX cart seem to be the only options for this. I would prefer to modify my SDX cart. Just have to look at this and the intSDX modifications to see if they can be applied to the SDX cart. Does anyone know if the GAL code that is provided for the intSDX is a recreation of the programming code used for the programmable logic chip in the SDX cart? It would be nice to populate a few bare SDX cart boards that I have. By the way if anyone is interested in scanned images of these boards let me know. Regards, Glenn It looks like it may be possible. instead of pin 8 on the GAL, it is pin 13. biggest problem would be getting the rom to fit in the shell. the rom may be a couple of mm to long. james Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvas Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 SpartaDOS X 4.41 has officially been released: http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=sdx_upgrade_en Problems - if any - with the software and documentation please report (preferably in Polish, but English is also accepted) here: http://atariarea.krap.pl/forum/viewtopic.p...id=77286#p77286 I've just programmed my 1Mbit MyIde+Flash, and when the cartridge is installed, the computer doesn't boot (just black screen). I programmed it twice without error. Any idea? I have the 32in1 OS / 512KB memory installed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trub Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I've just programmed my 1Mbit MyIde+Flash, and when the cartridge is installed, the computer doesn't boot (just black screen). I programmed it twice without error. Any idea? Only regular Maxflash 1MB and 8MB cartridges are supported by SDX 4.41 (without MyIDE). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan49 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 SpartaDOS X 4.41 has officially been released: http://trub.atari8.info/index.php?ref=sdx_upgrade_en Problems - if any - with the software and documentation please report (preferably in Polish, but English is also accepted) here: http://atariarea.krap.pl/forum/viewtopic.p...id=77286#p77286 can this be used for the original SDX cart? James Not in its present form. The SDX requires a 27512 EPROM (64k bytes) to hold versions 4.20 and 4.21. These newer version of SDX require a 27C010 size EPROM (128k bytes). I haven't seen any info on if the SDX can be modified to support a 27C010 size chip. So far only alternative flash carts for the 8bit and a internal SDX cart seem to be the only options for this. I would prefer to modify my SDX cart. Just have to look at this and the intSDX modifications to see if they can be applied to the SDX cart. Does anyone know if the GAL code that is provided for the intSDX is a recreation of the programming code used for the programmable logic chip in the SDX cart? It would be nice to populate a few bare SDX cart boards that I have. By the way if anyone is interested in scanned images of these boards let me know. Regards, Glenn It looks like it may be possible. instead of pin 8 on the GAL, it is pin 13. biggest problem would be getting the rom to fit in the shell. the rom may be a couple of mm to long. james Yeah your right. It didn't dawn on me that there is 28 vs 32 pin difference on the EPROM (been a while since I played with this stuff). Plus the intSDX uses a different type of programmable logic chip than the regular SDX cart. It would be easier to just build the intSDX than to try and re-engineer the SDX cart itself. Oh well, it was a nice thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8pdct Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah your right. It didn't dawn on me that there is 28 vs 32 pin difference on the EPROM (been a while since I played with this stuff). Plus the intSDX uses a different type of programmable logic chip than the regular SDX cart. It would be easier to just build the intSDX than to try and re-engineer the SDX cart itself. Oh well, it was a nice thought. I think the gal used for the intSDX is functionally the same as the original because I believe that the original rom can be used with this little kit. only the pins are programmed different. Who does the intsdx gal? not many people would have a programmer for it. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan49 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah your right. It didn't dawn on me that there is 28 vs 32 pin difference on the EPROM (been a while since I played with this stuff). Plus the intSDX uses a different type of programmable logic chip than the regular SDX cart. It would be easier to just build the intSDX than to try and re-engineer the SDX cart itself. Oh well, it was a nice thought. I think the gal used for the intSDX is functionally the same as the original because I believe that the original rom can be used with this little kit. only the pins are programmed different. Who does the intsdx gal? not many people would have a programmer for it. James Actually I have two different programmers for that. I have an Advin systems Pilot-U84 (a fantastic thrift shop find for $5). That burner originally sold for $2000. And I have one that I bought off of eBay and came from China. I use that one more for PLCC packaged chips. Its not very user friendly as other burners. The intSDX uses a more widely available 20V8 GAL chip. The original SDX chip is based on one not quite so popular - a 18P8. I can't remember the exact part number on it. The 20V8 is 24 pin package and the 18P8 is 20 pin. When I get the time and desire I'm thinking I'm going to modify my 130XE with this. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup8pdct Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 After having a look and a play with my SDX cart, It looks possiable to fit a 32 pin rom chip in the shells with no mods. I simply moved the rom up 2 pins and had a look. The resr should be the same as the intSDX instructions except pin 8 on the intSDX GAL is pin 13 on the original SDX GAL. to make life easy, a track would need to be cut instead of lifting a pin up. Now to get the rom and burn one if my super e burner will do it. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvas Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I've just programmed my 1Mbit MyIde+Flash, and when the cartridge is installed, the computer doesn't boot (just black screen). I programmed it twice without error. Any idea? Only regular Maxflash 1MB and 8MB cartridges are supported by SDX 4.41 (without MyIDE). Thanks. Is there a specific reason? I thought that the "flash-part" of those cartridges are compatible with each-other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Thanks. Is there a specific reason? I thought that the "flash-part" of those cartridges are compatible with each-other. The reason is that noone has MyIDE+flashcart, so there is no way to test the images. The same applies to the MyIDE driver someone wrote. It can't be included in the cart release, because there is no way to test, if it works correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Hi, There was an effort to make Sparta Dox X 4.39 into a MyIDE cart. It did quite well also for both internal and external. I would like to see this for the newest version also.. http://www.atarimax.com/flashcart/forum/viewtopic.php?t=591 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan49 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Attached is a ROM file that can be put on a 27128 and plugged into a SDX cart. Its the diagnostic for the MIO. The program has no documentation and isn't quite user friendly like Atari's diagnostic software. But if someone can figure out how to properly use it please share the knowledge learned about it. Miodiag.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 There was an effort to make Sparta Dox X 4.39 into a MyIDE cart. It did quite well also for both internal and external. Provided that there are active SpartaDOS X developers who actually have the source code and can compile it directly into a ROM image, these "efforts" you mention to binary-patch a release version in a hope that it would somehow work, and the patcher did not omit any register reference or did not overwrite anything important, are rather funny form of aberration IMHO. The correct procedure to have a type of cartridge supported by SpartaDOS is actually to sponsor one device to the project maintainer. ABBUC did so with Turbo Freezer 2005, so their Turbo Freezer is supported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayoK Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 The correct procedure to have a type of cartridge supported by SpartaDOS is actually to sponsor one device to the project maintainer. ABBUC did so with Turbo Freezer 2005, so their Turbo Freezer is supported. Would the developer be interested in creating an image for this cart if supplied with one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Would the developer be interested in creating an image for this cart if supplied with one? I am sure he would. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) Would the developer be interested in creating an image for this cart if supplied with one? I am sure he would. Why not? Would the fact that MyIDE does not have Percom support stop it from working with Sparta? Stephen Anderson Edited February 19, 2008 by Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 "Would the fact that MyIDE does not have Percom support stop it from working with parta?" There is a third party partition formatter for MyIDE interface and SpartaDos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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