shadow460 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Figured I'd ask here since it's a VCS game. Is it due to the type of switches or something else? Space Shuttle booted fine on my 7800. My unit has been fitted with a TV Type switch, so if that's the only obstacle, I guess I'm good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Figured I'd ask here since it's a VCS game. Is it due to the type of switches or something else? Space Shuttle booted fine on my 7800. My unit has been fitted with a TV Type switch, so if that's the only obstacle, I guess I'm good to go. Well you see, the space shuttle is actually designed to run on two solid fuel tanks, and one liquid fuel. 7800 just isn't that combustible, so it makes poor fuel. I hope this helps. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornpipe2 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Figured I'd ask here since it's a VCS game. Is it due to the type of switches or something else? Space Shuttle booted fine on my 7800. My unit has been fitted with a TV Type switch, so if that's the only obstacle, I guess I'm good to go. Well you see, the space shuttle is actually designed to run on two solid fuel tanks, and one liquid fuel. 7800 just isn't that combustible, so it makes poor fuel. I hope this helps. AX LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 It's known that certain games using FE bankswitching may not work on 7800 models with a timing kludge intended to fix compatibility with 2600 Dark Chambers. But that said, it isn't clear why Space Shuttle would be affected, as it uses F8, not FE, and other F8 games are not affected by the timing circuit. Or, is there a FE version of Space Shuttle that hasn't been dumped yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 This isnt the same reason they say robot Tank wont work, is it? If so, I need to get Space Shuttle, cuz I got an early 7800 that plays Robot Tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonie Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Figured I'd ask here since it's a VCS game. Is it due to the type of switches or something else? Space Shuttle booted fine on my 7800. My unit has been fitted with a TV Type switch, so if that's the only obstacle, I guess I'm good to go. Well you see, the space shuttle is actually designed to run on two solid fuel tanks, and one liquid fuel. 7800 just isn't that combustible, so it makes poor fuel. I hope this helps. AX Well, now hold on a bit. If we convert the Boosters to Hybrid, by replacing the APCP fuel with NoX, then you actually can use the 7800 as fuel. Of course we would need thousands of them, and have to melt the cases down and form them into a tube, but it would work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) It's known that certain games using FE bankswitching may not work on 7800 models with a timing kludge intended to fix compatibility with 2600 Dark Chambers. But that said, it isn't clear why Space Shuttle would be affected, as it uses F8, not FE, and other F8 games are not affected by the timing circuit. Or, is there a FE version of Space Shuttle that hasn't been dumped yet? I could dump some of mine. I doubt they would switch bankswitching (no pun intended) though? You got a nice little dumper you made too, Batari. I was looking at that, and it looked pretty sweet. Handles FE too IIRC. Do you have some Space Shuttles? I'll try some of mine later on but I think you are right they are all F8. Edited May 19, 2008 by Omegamatrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRGilbert Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 See, I was thinking more in terms of computer power, and given the advanced age of the Space Shuttle line, the 7800 might just work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmosiss Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 You big sillies. This one is meant to be played on a VCS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Well I just dumped three different Space Shuttles (two white labels, and a similar blue text label). All were F8. When I forced my dumper to FE I got garbage. I'm pretty sure this was only released as F8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckhard Stolberg Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Well I just dumped three different Space Shuttles (two white labels, and a similar blue text label). All were F8. When I forced my dumper to FE I got garbage. I'm pretty sure this was only released as F8. The PAL version of Space Shuttle uses FE bankswitching, so the original NTSC version probably did too. But that would have to be one of the older picture label carts instead of the newer text labels. Ciao, Eckhard Stolberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I bought my Space Shuttle, new from Hill's department store in 1989. It is a particularly painful memory, since I lost a $5 bill on the way to go get it from the game section. Would you believe I never played it on a 2600!? I had a coleco with the 2600 adapter expansion #1. I got plenty of use out of it, and let me tell ya, it worked great. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) Well I just dumped three different Space Shuttles (two white labels, and a similar blue text label). All were F8. When I forced my dumper to FE I got garbage. I'm pretty sure this was only released as F8. The PAL version of Space Shuttle uses FE bankswitching, so the original NTSC version probably did too. But that would have to be one of the older picture label carts instead of the newer text labels. Ciao, Eckhard Stolberg I have a picture label version. Would the dump from DevOS help out? Here;s the dump of my cart using the line 7800ctrl -t26F8 filename.bin which should work if it's an F8 bankswitched cart. I renamed it to shuttle.bin and tried loading it into Stella. The screen rolled. I don't know how to load it back into the RAM cart to try it on actual hardware, though. EDIT: I removed the dump, since it was dumped with the wrong bankswitching method. Read on... Edited May 21, 2008 by shadow460 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have a picture label version. Would the dump from DevOS help out? Definitely. I don't have a picture version anymore (I looked). If Eckhard suspisions are right it is quite possible there is a FE version out there. The thing is who knows when they switched if there is? It could be two identical pic labels would have two different roms. The only way to find out is to dump them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 I got a dump up there. Is there a way to have DevOS dump an FE cart? Something like 7800ctrl -t26FE rtank.bin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) Hold on Shadow I'm sending you a PM. I think you have an FE cart. Edit: And yeah that dump you posted rolls because it is a bad dump (probably because it is an FE cart trying to be dumped as F8). Edited May 21, 2008 by Omegamatrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) I thought that's why it would roll like that. I probably would have missed it if it was FE anyway, since Robot Tank works fine with my 7800. Edited May 21, 2008 by shadow460 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 It works in Stella 2.5 (one of the newer versions). It auto-detected it as FE and opened it up right away. When I forced it to F8 bankswitching it failed. It works in Z26 when it is forced it to FE. You can get it to work in Stella if you have an older version by forcing it to FE I'm sure. BTW I see a half white line at the top of the logo on Stella, but it is not there in Z26. I think it is an emulator issue. Do you see it on the screen with real hardware (on a regular 2600)? -----------------Stella----------------------------------Z26----------------------- Anyhow I'm glad you did multiple dumps. It turned out some of the dumps were bad (this happens to me too a lot), but this is the good one. Space_Shuttle__FE_Bankswitching__NTSC.bin Thank you Shadow!! I'm going to post this in a thread I have about roms. ~Omega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Here you go. Mitch SPACE_SHUTTLE_FE_NTSC.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Thanks for your help, too, Omega. That's answered my original question, and the answer is that it uses FE bankswitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Here you go. Mitch 100% matched and instant verification of a good dump. * has heart attack this is all happening way to fast * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 And then there was two. Oh well. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 And then there was two. Oh well. Mitch No No, the more the better, Mitch. It can be tricky with these FE carts cause you can't test it with a Krok cart. Maybe a Cuttle Cart I'm not sure. I'm really glad you did this. I think you got more dumps on your hardrive you've forgotten about then people think exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 And then there was two. Oh well. Mitch No No, the more the better, Mitch. It can be tricky with these FE carts cause you can't test it with a Krok cart. Maybe a Cuttle Cart I'm not sure. I'm really glad you did this. I think you got more dumps on your hardrive you've forgotten about then people think exist. Actually I just dumped it a couple minutes before I posted it. I did take a minute to test it on my CC2 first to make sure it was good though. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 The logo looks normal on my 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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