retrogeek Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 (edited) I was searching the internet for Jaguar related material and came across this website: Lost Jaguar Protos Maybe this site is known by most people here but I decided to post it anyway. Interestingly enough, there is 3 pages (with photos) of lost Jaguar protos. Some of them look good! Edited June 5, 2008 by retrogeek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete5125 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Cool sight, a lot of those games have been released in some form of another. I wish Conan, Tiny Toons, and Realm of Fighters would of made it further in developement because they all look like my type of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrogeek Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 (edited) Cool sight, a lot of those games have been released in some form of another. I wish Conan, Tiny Toons, and Realm of Fighters would of made it further in developement because they all look like my type of games. Conan looks impressive! The graphic style reminds me of the AD&D series by Capcom. Thea Realm Fighters looks really good too! Conan (Jaguar) Thea Realm Fighters (Jaguar) Edited June 5, 2008 by retrogeek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 They made yet ANOTHER fighting game for the Jaguar? That looks almost Tattoo Assassins bad. Please tell me there's youtube footage of it without any weirdness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thea Realm fighters is out there only partially finished and will almost certainly never be released cause of liscensing issues. A Tiny Toons proto and a Vitual VSC proto both exist, Conan is lost and only 1 level was completed IIRC,there are many games that are lost and many that are finished and unreleased like the 7 Telegames that will never see the light of day..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete5125 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thea Realm fighters is out there only partially finished and will almost certainly never be released cause of liscensing issues. A Tiny Toons proto and a Vitual VSC proto both exist, Conan is lost and only 1 level was completed IIRC,there are many games that are lost and many that are finished and unreleased like the 7 Telegames that will never see the light of day..... What 7 Telegames are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 What 7 Telegames are you talking about? They had a bunch on their roster like cricket and brain games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I wonder if the guy who programmed WTR who was interviewed in JEO online would still have the source for that game? And if so if he would be interested in releasing it. hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thea Realm fighters is out there only partially finished and will almost certainly never be released cause of liscensing issues. I figured. Just out of curiousity, what are the licensing issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thea Realm fighters is out there only partially finished and will almost certainly never be released cause of liscensing issues. A Tiny Toons proto and a Vitual VSC proto both exist, Conan is lost and only 1 level was completed IIRC,there are many games that are lost and many that are finished and unreleased like the 7 Telegames that will never see the light of day..... What 7 Telegames are you talking about? powerslide,cricket,braingames,james pond,virtuoso, superoff road,and a soccer game i believe,the list is on JSII,however there were rumored to be almost 40 games in the works from Telegames....because a few of them didnt sell good enough they wont release anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thea Realm fighters is out there only partially finished and will almost certainly never be released cause of liscensing issues. I figured. Just out of curiousity, what are the licensing issues? royalties are the problem,Virtuoso is done ,but requires $7 royalties is what i heard,it isnt considered profitable for them. , and although the game sucks id still buy 3 copies! ,there is a long list of unreleased Jaguar games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 These games are Genny and SNES quality in the graphics department. The colors could be and should be 24 bit if they MUST do 2D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebRmv Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thea Realm fighters is out there only partially finished and will almost certainly never be released cause of liscensing issues. A Tiny Toons proto and a Vitual VSC proto both exist, Conan is lost and only 1 level was completed IIRC,there are many games that are lost and many that are finished and unreleased like the 7 Telegames that will never see the light of day..... What 7 Telegames are you talking about? powerslide,cricket,braingames,james pond,virtuoso, superoff road,and a soccer game i believe,the list is on JSII,however there were rumored to be almost 40 games in the works from Telegames....because a few of them didnt sell good enough they wont release anymore. James Pond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Thea Realm fighters is out there only partially finished and will almost certainly never be released cause of liscensing issues. A Tiny Toons proto and a Vitual VSC proto both exist, Conan is lost and only 1 level was completed IIRC,there are many games that are lost and many that are finished and unreleased like the 7 Telegames that will never see the light of day..... What 7 Telegames are you talking about? powerslide,cricket,braingames,james pond,virtuoso, superoff road,and a soccer game i believe,the list is on JSII,however there were rumored to be almost 40 games in the works from Telegames....because a few of them didnt sell good enough they wont release anymore. James Pond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 These games are Genny and SNES quality in the graphics department. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The only way they say Jag is by screaming 'cheap port' look Doesn't matter, we all know Buddies buys twenty of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 That "sparq" guy in Thea Realm fighters looks EXACTLY like AC Current from "Tattoo Assassins". Wow, to rip off THAT game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete5125 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 So Telegames would of continued their 16 bit ports or would these of been new games if Worms and Pong 2000 would of sold more units, wonder what break even was, I would think it would be possible if they presued it on E-bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredifredo Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 For me Conan is the only one really lost proto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 That "sparq" guy in Thea Realm fighters looks EXACTLY like AC Current from "Tattoo Assassins". Wow, to rip off THAT game... All the actors used for the digitized characters in Thea Realm Fighters were actually the same actors used for the Mortal Kombat games. So if 'Tattoo Assassins' has a guy that looks exact...did it use those actors too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 No, Tattoo Assassins had different "actors". There's actually a list of them on it's Wikipedia page. Check out some of the screenshots on KLOV too... man, it really looks bad. --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 So Telegames would of continued their 16 bit ports or would these of been new games if Worms and Pong 2000 would of sold more units, wonder what break even was, I would think it would be possible if they presued it on E-bay. not sure,but they would have sold the Alpine with Ultimate Brain Games for like $10k,atleast that what i was told by a reliable source,during his phone conversation to Telegames. They got more 16-bit ports that id love to have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete5125 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 So Telegames would of continued their 16 bit ports or would these of been new games if Worms and Pong 2000 would of sold more units, wonder what break even was, I would think it would be possible if they presued it on E-bay. not sure,but they would have sold the Alpine with Ultimate Brain Games for like $10k,atleast that what i was told by a reliable source,during his phone conversation to Telegames. They got more 16-bit ports that id love to have! So I would need to sell about 125 units of each game selling at ($80 on a website/ paying $40 a cart to make the limited amount of games) to break even. This is assuming the cose is complete and ready to go. Then every game after the 125 mark is profit. My guess is that their is an opportunity to sell 200 carts (worldwide)of a new Jag game at the $80 pop (I am probably being very optomistic w/ this #)....If my #'s are correct and I am still paying $40 or less to produce each cart, advertising would be non excistant if I could sell my 200 copies of each game (the profit would be around the $6K mark). This being very optomistic and guessing that their is still a market for new Jag Games no matter what titles I release. But for an enterpeneuer that had a little $$ to expirement w. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 So Telegames would of continued their 16 bit ports or would these of been new games if Worms and Pong 2000 would of sold more units, wonder what break even was, I would think it would be possible if they presued it on E-bay. not sure,but they would have sold the Alpine with Ultimate Brain Games for like $10k,atleast that what i was told by a reliable source,during his phone conversation to Telegames. They got more 16-bit ports that id love to have! So I would need to sell about 125 units of each game selling at ($80 on a website/ paying $40 a cart to make the limited amount of games) to break even. This is assuming the cose is complete and ready to go. Then every game after the 125 mark is profit. My guess is that their is an opportunity to sell 200 carts (worldwide)of a new Jag game at the $80 pop (I am probably being very optomistic w/ this #)....If my #'s are correct and I am still paying $40 or less to produce each cart, advertising would be non excistant if I could sell my 200 copies of each game (the profit would be around the $6K mark). This being very optomistic and guessing that their is still a market for new Jag Games no matter what titles I release. But for an enterpeneuer that had a little $$ to expirement w. What do you think? It would be interesting to know what kind of sales numbers Songbird has had with it's titles and how many of the telegames releases were sold. My out of the blue guess would be an average couple hundred copies each sold of the Songbird games, total over the decade or so Songbird has existed. And maybe in the hundreds to a few thousand for Telegames, only becuase they were released when there was still a vastly larger audience then by the time Songbird came along. I would imagine IS2 was the largest seller between all Songbird and Telegames games, but still probably only a couple thousand sold at best. I think it would be more worth it for someone like you, or Songbird who have less overhead and are only one person instead of a company like Telegames where they would want a minimum of thousands of sales for each game for them to consider it worthwhile. They aren't Atari fans too, like you and Carl Forhan. I'd venture that you may sell your 200 games, in time, but you may not see a profit for years. I'm sure that 50-100 would sell almost immediately, but then slow to a trickle over a few years to reach the 200 mark. Assuming the game is good, too, of course, if it's something that only hard-core collectors would be interested in then 50-100 would probably be the limit in sales altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 These games are Genny and SNES quality in the graphics department. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The only way they say Jag is by screaming 'cheap port' look Doesn't matter, we all know Buddies buys twenty of anything. Then he'll probably hate my policy of one to a customer. Just a step to keep the e-whores at bay in the hopes that they might think twice about selling it realizing they may never get another copy again. We need more CD players. That would help big time right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 We need more CD players. That would help big time right there. Absolutely!!! :!: :!: Although I already have one, I would also see that other Jaguar users can buy a CD unit, or someone has to come up with ha home made kit using standard IDE CD drives, if thats possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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