Joystick Jolter Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 Hello Everyone, I am hoping I will not rise the ire of the Al's with this. I would like to Auction off an Atari 2600 Krull Prototype here. Since eBay will not allow auctions for eproms I thought since this is the best Atari website in the world , I would try to auction off a few of my proto's here. First up will be Krull with paperwork back-up. Nobody anywhere has been able to offer the "provenance" I am offering here. Bids can be placed here as responses to this post. The bidding will end Sunday March 2nd at 8pm ET. The auction can be viewed here: http://www.onlineauctionsales.com/VG012702.htm Thank you to all who visit and bid. PS: I have eBay feedback of 455 as: postcardmary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joystick Jolter Posted February 26, 2003 Author Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hello, I should have had this in the post before. Let's start the bidding at 9.99 THANK YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 $75.00,- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Just so everyone knows this is the final version. http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/k...krull/krull.htm Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joystick Jolter Posted February 26, 2003 Author Share Posted February 26, 2003 Just so everyone knows this is the final version. http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/k...krull/krull.htm Tempest Thanks Tempest. I want this to be nothing but above board. I believe it can work in this Forum. Oh...Boy....The Wiz means Biz!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Cleopatra Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 CPU! You get all the cool stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 CPU! You get all the cool stuff! Hehe, JCroniger hasn't seen this thread yet so maybe I get lucky cuz' I think Tempest already has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCroniger Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 I just saw it Let's see, Put me down for $125 Very nice Proto!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 $130.00,- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCroniger Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Could we get a better pic of the docs that come with it? They're hard to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Could we get a better pic of the docs that come with it?They're hard to read. I got a couple of those from him already, they are basically letters that state the cart was given to him for review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 I'm gonna wait to snipe it at the last second j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCroniger Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hmmm... Let's try 140. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buyatari Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Wow ebay pulls the plug on protos and the "black market" prices of them go through the roof ! Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 This auction would raise my interest if the original paperworks were included. Copies of them are some kind of lame... Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mock Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 I agree...the original paperwork should follow the game to it's new owner, you should keep the copies. IMHO But, wtf do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joystick Jolter Posted February 26, 2003 Author Share Posted February 26, 2003 This auction would raise my interest if the original paperworks were included. Copies of them are some kind of lame... Marc. Marc, Actually I wish I could, but If I include the original papers with this sale, what do I do for the person who wins Battlezone. I would rather just send the copies to the winners and be fair to all those who have bought proto's from me in the past. Also remember that these are from the 60's. Believe it or not, none of the companies, including Atari or Activision used computer generated paperwork. Everything was Xeroxed copies. They were at the threshold of the computer revolution and used old technology. Some of the paper work I have from some of the manufacturers is even all written in pen. There marketing divisions were "way" behind their development boys. I appreciate your thoughts, but hope you understand my situation as to who should get the original and who should get the copy. The copies are actually better than the originals as they have faded some and will continue to do so I imagine in the future. The "Joystick Jolter" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 @JJ Well, lame might be the wrong word for it, sorry for that. What I wanted to say is that a die hard collector only goes for original items (even if the copy is way better than the original), not for a photocopy of it (which - as you said - indeed is still a nice bonus for the buyer). Take care, Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buyatari Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I think if more than one prototype is on that paperwork you need to sell them as a lot. I bid on a couple auctions in the past until I found out people were getting photocopies of the paperwork. If you show pictures of paperwork with the prototype and you can't send originals you need to make that VERY CLEAR and I don't think it was. I am not trying to piss in your cereal here but I think bidders should know if they will get the original paperwork or not right off the bat. A Krull prototype by itself might fetch $40-$50 but certainly not over $100.00 so I am assuming the rest of the bid goes towards the original paperwork. I could be worng. Maybee the price of Atari protos has gone up that much because ebay pulled them and its time to sell mine on Atari Age as well. Here an auction idea. Why don't you sell all the original paperwork in one lot after the protos are gone. Now there is something I'd be interested in. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joystick Jolter Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 Now just to inform you that as far as the paperwork goes much of the paperwork the companies issued was copied. I just now looked through the 1983 Press Kit I have and I would say literally half was Xeroxed copies. Maybe that's why Atari sunk. They were Xeroxing copies instead of just sending out stuff to a printer. Just wasting money as fast as they could. I have loads of Press Kits that I will be putting up for sale with whatever paperwork they have in them. Some will be all printed others will have some printed some copied. I am sorry I cannot control that. Some of the companies are: Atari, Activision, CBS, Imagic, Amiga, Tigervision and many more. PS: I'm pretty sure you got all original paperwork with the Malagai cartridge didn't you? If you didn't you got whatever I had, as I have nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joystick Jolter Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 PS: I'm pretty sure you got all original paperwork with theMalagai cartridge didn't you? If you didn't you got whatever I had, as I have nothing else. Sorry: Wrong Person... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joystick Jolter Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 My processor isn't working at full capacity today. I wanted to answer your primary question and then got all off on the use of copies by many of the companies. The ad specifically states, and this is cut and pasted here directly from the ad: EVERYTHING LISTED BELOW IS INCLUDED IN YOUR WINNING BID. COPIES OF ALL 3 DIFFERENT SETS OF PAPER WORK( Official Atari Press Release, Atari equipment loan document and Atari Review and Evaluation Document ) AND THE CARTRIDGE. PLUS IF YOU WANT I CAN WRITE YOU A LETTER TRANSFERING THE CARTRIDGE TO YOU. It does say: COPIES. Believe me I don't want to fool anyone about anything. If anyone has a question I will answer. I have nothing to lie about or be coy about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCroniger Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hmmm... Let's try 140. I'm going to retract my bid. I based my offer on the fact that it came with original paperwork. I apologize. I think a fair price for just the proto and a copy of the paperwork is 70-80 dollars. Since this is tied in with the Battlezone (paperwork), I'd be interested in both if they were auctioned together. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hmm, does that mean my bid of $75.00,- is the highest bid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joystick Jolter Posted February 28, 2003 Author Share Posted February 28, 2003 Sure looks like the Wiz's 75.00 bid now is top bid. JC as far as original paperwork what I am going to do is this. The Product Release for Krull is the original. That is the picture that is not coming up. It is a 2 page Press release for the Krull release. The second paper which is the review and evaluation release will also be the original paper. I happen to have a different original for the Battlezone. The third though I cannot furnish the original as that is the only one I have. They were supposed to be signed and sent back. I happened to keep that one. That is the package anyone will win now. If you want to recind your bid that's OK I understand. Wiz everything mentioned is now in the package as stated, and you seem to be in the drivers seat leading the race with a big lead. Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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