bloatedmonkey Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Once again, a nice auction to bid on: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...9&category=3537 Of course, the usual folks wrote the guy and made him offers to end the auction early, so now he's decided not to sell (if he hasn't already sold it to one of you chumps). Why can't you guys leave things alone? What's the point of bidding on stuff when your meddling causes the auctions to just get pulled early? Have a conscience and let the open market get these poor saps the best price for their stuff instead of screwing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 now you see why i dont even bother to use ebay anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 That guy turned down offers from collectors you wouldn't even believe, compare to this, the sealed Malagai was cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 dont blame anyone else - blame the seller its their choice - you dont make friends with people calling them chumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloatedmonkey Posted May 24, 2003 Author Share Posted May 24, 2003 dont blame anyone else - blame the seller its their choice - you dont make friends with people calling them chumps I don't have friends who use underhanded tactics to cheat people. The seller obviously didn't know how valuable his lot was. We do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 I don't believe for one minute that you would have paid $1500.00+ for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloatedmonkey Posted May 24, 2003 Author Share Posted May 24, 2003 I don't believe for one minute that you would have paid $1500.00+ for this. You're correct. The last Lochjaw I saw on ebay was bought by buyatari for $800, so I would have bid in that region and lost. (By the way, lots of peole around here thought he paid too much back then - who's laughing now?) My point is that the only reason to make an offer to someone is if you think it will sell for more when you have to compete in an open auction. That only screws the seller who may not know how valuable his stuff is, and all the people who are playing by Ebay's rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Don't get me wrong, I didn't get it but I know someone who offered more than $1200.00 and got turned down. I wouldn't have paid more than $700.00 to $800.00 for it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 WOW!! thanks for posting this one!! i just made an offer i'll let you know if he turns it down!! take care, Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloatedmonkey Posted May 24, 2003 Author Share Posted May 24, 2003 OK, I'm cooled down now. I have to vent about this every once in a while. Here's the problem: Every once in a while, I see a lot with something I don't have and I say "Hey, I'll watch that and see where it is on Tuesday, and if I can afford it, I'll bid on it." So Tuesday rolls around and it says "auction ended - all bids cancelled. Since I can't find out what it sold for, all I can do is get mad, since I never had a chance to find out if my bid was good enough. In this case, I actually wrote this guy the following before the auction ended: I'm interested in your atari lot. I expect that you will get some offers for it. Please don't accept any offers without giving me a chance. In any case, I recommend that you let the auction go to the end, as you will probably get the best deal. I hate that I'm forced to do that. [/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 dont blame anyone else - blame the seller its their choice - you dont make friends with people calling them chumps I don't have friends who use underhanded tactics to cheat people. The seller obviously didn't know how valuable his lot was. We do. i dont know if ebay changed it, but maybe they did - but when someone ended an auction early they were allowed to post a reason why from selecting a reason from a list of choices. I recall one used to be "Seller has sold item to the highest bidder" or something worded like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAtari Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Call me crazy, but I cannot understand the logic in this. People are willing to pay unbelievably big $$ to play what is essentially a very boring game that is easily available on an emulator ( that also won't be played ). I just don't get it. Waterworld = BIG bucks Yars Revenge = ONE buck I realize the whole "scarcity" thing, but theres a reason why these bombs are scarce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloatedmonkey Posted May 24, 2003 Author Share Posted May 24, 2003 Call me crazy, but I cannot understand the logic in this. The people who would bid on this already have Yars' Revenge. They don't have Lochjaw. It's a simple case of supply and demand. Plus there's interesting history with this particular game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Call me crazy, but I cannot understand the logic in this.People are willing to pay unbelievably big $$ to play what is essentially a very boring game that is easily available on an emulator ( that also won't be played ). I just don't get it. $$ collecting has its price $$ doesnt matter how good or bad soemthing is to someone - its just if you are into heavy duting collecting for something youll pay top dollar to get what you want to feel complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Hey, If a person ask me to end my auctions early. I say no. If someone else ends there auctions early. I dont think it is very smart. Because the seller allready knows he will get at least that amount. As far as the buyer. If you can do it more power too yah. If you are smart enough and can find away. You deserve it. I personaly would have gone around what CPU said. $700 and $800 but who knows during the heat of the battle. I do know that it went for over $1200 and I wouldnt have gone that high. The buyer that pulled it off, Didnt have to wait the 6 more days. I also know, I didnt get put through the hell of waiting 6 more days, not knowiing if I would win it. Who ever got it, I salute you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 The last Lochjaw I saw on ebay was bought by buyatari for $800, so I would have bid in that region and lost. (By the way, lots of peole around here thought he paid too much back then - who's laughing now?) Me...I find the whole thing of collecting to be a riot Not healthy, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad2600 Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 I don't get it. Why spend elaborate amounts of cash on a single game? I dunno. I can't recall spending more than $20 for one single game that I have gotten. Then again, I usually buy in lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callipygous Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Here's a another rarity: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...8&category=3528 bought by someone. David? , VGA? , Mark ? Care to fess up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buyatari Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Hey if you feel people are going to try to get the seller to sell early you had best beat them to it. I compare it to a dance. 6 guys are eyeing up the hotest girl in the place. They know in a couple songs "Ladies choice" is coming up and they are all waiting nervously across the room. Well one guy doesn't wait and he asks her to meet behind the dumpster for some high school lovin right there and then and YES believe it or not she goes. Ladies choice comes along and she is now where to be found. After the 5 guys find out what happened they kick their friends ass but he doesn't care. He came home with the prize. Its in our human nature to try to get the seller to sell early or try whatever "tricks" as you call it along the way. As long as people are legal and do not decieve I have no problems with any of this. When it comes to rare games, its not who has the most money who gets it, its who wants it most. Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sly Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Correction the last Lochjaw sold for 960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloatedmonkey Posted May 26, 2003 Author Share Posted May 26, 2003 Well one guy doesn't wait and he asks her to meet behind the dumpster for some high school lovin right there ...and if this girl happens to be your best friend's girlfriend? Just because something's legal and gets you want you want doesn't mean it's right. Its in our human nature to try to get the seller to sell early or try whatever "tricks" as you call it along the way. It's fine to debate what's "ethical". Maybe I'm just whining because I lost out. But I've loved the whole Ebay experience over the years because like all great sports, it's been up front and out in the open with clear defined rules. Without that, it's just not as much fun. That's just my opinion. Sorry if my rant offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Not offended at all. I like a good debate. As far as the "Best Fiends Girl Friend" If it was my best friend girl, I wouldnt touch her. No body knew this Seller. So this was fair Game. Just like in Football. The more you work out and the better strategy you have , more of a chance you win If you sit back and dont give it your all you will lose. On the other hand Ebay Rules are against this. So I can see your point. Like I said in my past Post, i was so glad that it ended, after I found out somebody paid more thant $1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 I'll have to point out again that if ebay's rules are so against the practice of ending your own auction to sell privately...why is it even possible to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 I didnt say It didnt happen. I know it does and the majority of the Big Game Collectors have done this at least once maybe twice But too bloated monkeys defense it is a rule. I say get the games anyway you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 I say get the games anyway you can. Yes, it's war and it's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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