Tezz Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I wonder whether this is some intentional threat of people who want to make something on the Atari.... Hey Tebe, Raster and other cuplrits, it's time to confess you are a part of the Great Anti-Atari Conspiracy..... yea I must admit I don't know where MK is coming from either sometimes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Tell me, what prevents G2F from leaving the PMs on when drawing in gr 9 , 10, 11 ? problem with code under ZOOM, "division by zero" ( ad:=crX div (2 div Pixel) ERROR if PIXEL=4), solution: disable PMG mode pixel 1x1 , 2x1, pixel is incresed by 1,2, PMG by 2, it's OK, one procedure for pixel 1 and 2, but not for pixel 4x1, pixel 4x1 is faster then pixel PMG, solution: rewrite code Edited December 10, 2008 by tebe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz atarionline.pl Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Tebe explained: all problems with GTIA modes in G2F are coming from programming technique he used at starting point. G2F was designed as GR8 and GR15 tool and never intended to be more than graphics to font converter (yea, Graph2Font) in these two modes. GR9 was added to implement Our5oft intro picture only and that started generating problems... Pixels in mode 9 are increased by 4, sprites pixels by 2 - it makes sprites corrupted or divides by zero and hang program up. He should start G2F from beginning to get correct results for GTIA modes. Good news: TeBe added sprites for GR9, but is no chance to work on them in ZOOM mode. He is still improving this GTIA modes feature because priorities are still incorrect, like in GR15 mode. Edited December 10, 2008 by Kaz atarionline.pl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 g2f 10.12.2008, Pixel 4x1 (gr.9) PMG enabled, with ZOOM not working properly g2f_10.12.2008.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezz Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thanks for the info with regard to that Tebe/Kaz @ MK. Now you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Tell me, what prevents G2F from leaving the PMs on when drawing in gr 9 , 10, 11 ? problem with code under ZOOM, "division by zero" ( ad:=crX div (2 div Pixel) ERROR if PIXEL=4), solution: disable PMG But why does it work when using 1x1 or 2x2 and switching to 4x1 then? Only the priority was shown wrong, when I was creating the Sonic picture. mode pixel 1x1 , 2x1, pixel is incresed by 1,2, PMG by 2, it's OK, one procedure for pixel 1 and 2, but not for pixel 4x1, pixel 4x1 is faster then pixel PMG, solution: rewrite code Isn't it possible, somehow, to send the graphics directly to the A800win emulator? Having both tools active, you could directly see the progress then, alike how buggy the zoom is? Edited December 10, 2008 by emkay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Sorry, Tebe, I have tested the latest version. PM works now for editing, but i stll cannot save other files than BMPs. Older version do not have this bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 but i stll cannot save other files than BMPs. save BMP or PNG only first CTRL+S, select file extension type to BMP or PNG, click button SAVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 but i stll cannot save other files than BMPs. save BMP or PNG only first CTRL+S, select file extension type to BMP or PNG, click button SAVE You got me wrong, I guess. I cannot save G2F or XEX files with the new version(s). It always saves a BMP file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 try with shortcut, Save G2F = CTR+G, Save XEX = CTRL+X hmm, strange, 'Save XEX' work fine with suggested file name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 try with shortcut, Save G2F = CTR+G, Save XEX = CTRL+X hmm, strange, 'Save XEX' work fine with suggested file name strg g works strg x saves the file into the folder where g2f is. Not into the wanted folder. but at least I can do some impression, since the shapes of the PM is not editable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 For a complete enhancement we would need fully working midline changes and the possibitlity of correct missile positioning also when re using them per scanline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 To make it more clear We have the possibility of using up to 88 colours per scanline. The missiles give the missing flexibility for fine colouring. The result is the only way to have real 256 colour pictures... without interlace.... without flicker just stable colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 g2f 11.12.2008 PMG+GR9 + ZOOM (90%), changes in SaveDialog g2f_11.12.2008.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwin Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) g2f 11.12.2008 PMG+GR9 + ZOOM (90%), changes in SaveDialog Save to specific file still don't work. Last good version is probably 9.03.2008 (v3.8.5.7 march 2008) New looks like: When i choose for example 1.xex - saved file is 1.xex but inside is png!, when 1.bmp - saved file is 1.bmp but inside is png, when g2f -saved file is 1.g2f but inside is still png. Only way to save file in g2f or xex - in my situation - turn on in "special/save g2f/xex" and close program - very annoying. Because that i still use older version. Edited December 11, 2008 by irwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 g2f 11.12.2008 PMG+GR9 + ZOOM (90%), changes in SaveDialog Very raw now But a further step. This time I added some "dots" of green via a player to the left. So if all colours were not enough, on can use them for some "touch up".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz atarionline.pl Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Only way to save file in g2f or xex - in my situation - turn on in "special/save g2f/xex" and close program - very annoying. Because that i still use older version. Irwin - I'm intensively using EVERY new version of G2F and haven't noticed this bug, because I ALWAYS have option "Save g2f/xex" switched on. It makes your life easier when you save g2f AND xex file in background. There is no problem with PNG and BMP files too. Thus, there is no serious reason to use older version (from March!). Edited December 11, 2008 by Kaz atarionline.pl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Only way to save file in g2f or xex - in my situation - turn on in "special/save g2f/xex" and close program - very annoying. Because that i still use older version. Irwin - I'm intensively using EVERY new version of G2F and haven't noticed this bug, because I ALWAYS have option "Save g2f/xex" switched on. It makes your life easier when you save g2f AND xex file in background. There is no problem with PNG and BMP files too. Thus, there is no serious reason to use older version (from March!). Hm. The latest version seem to work properly here for saving stuff now. No Idea what happened with the verisons before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwin Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Irwin - I'm intensively using EVERY new version of G2F and haven't noticed this bug, because I ALWAYS have option "Save g2f/xex" switched on. It makes your life easier when you save g2f AND xex file in background. There is no problem with PNG and BMP files too. Thus, there is no serious reason to use older version (from March!). Look at screen-videos: test01.avi - newest official version 27.11.2008 - all files saved to bmp (or sometimes to png) with extension: filename.xxx(file type).bmp. All files is bmp, no matter what you choose at file save dialog. All this same size 230kb test02.avi - newest version from today 11.12.2008 - all files saved to png, this time with proper extension: filename.xxx (file type) but all this same size 942 bytes and all is png inside. For me is a serious reason to use older version. --- sorry for my simple english anims.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 g2f 12.12.2008 saving all file types improved g2f_12.12.2008.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 In the latest version the shortcuts seem to work properly, but when writing XEX, it always stores it into the folder of the G2F.EXE. The Interface for storing is still messed. An I wonder why the changes happened in the Raster editing. The older was more comfortable. It seems, in this mode the usage of PM still doesn't work when rasters been used. Some adjustments on the picture.... (a bit nature, a bit virtuality ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwin Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I test 12.12.2008 version and... still all saved files is one kind - no matter what i choose in save dialog at the end i have only png inside files. Anyway thanks for your help Tebe! For now i back to my favorite march version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 g2f 16.12.2008 with export to SLIDESHOW FILE EXPORT AS... FILE OPEN MAP -> MAPS\Eugenia\eugenia.map EXPORT -> as slideshow push button EXPORT p.s. only for MODE = DLI, lines 0..7 without changes (CTRL+C) g2f_16.12.2008.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pps Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Slideshow export doen´t work here. Something is wrong with the 7z programme, it produces a hard error and windows shut it down, so there will be no slideshow_msx.7z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebe Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 try run !make_slideshow.bat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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