DEBRO Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hi there, Here is video of a little project I started. I don't have a name for it yet so feel free to create one. I'm not really a hacker. I disassemble 2600 games as a way to pass the time. Some people do jig-saw puzzles or crossword puzzles. I like putting together 2048 or 4096 bytes of 2600 code Anyway, I was looking at this and it seemed like a pretty simple hack. I'm polishing it up as there are some minor problems. What do you think? berzerk_video.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Very nice. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 So what should I call it? I'd like to do a simple title screen to distinguish it from the other many Berzerk hacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 So what should I call it? Berzerk: DD (Diagonal Death) ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 So what should I call it? Berzerk: DD (Diagonal Death) I like the DD...it has a nice touch I talked to Mike and I may combine this with his voice hack to make it a Berzerk: Arcade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 So what should I call it? Berzerk: DD (Diagonal Death) I like the DD...it has a nice touch I talked to Mike and I may combine this with his voice hack to make it a Berzerk: Arcade. Finally!!! You might also want to make the default game (game 1) play with Evil Otto making an appearance. Like in Berzerk Neo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 What do you think? Good luck with getting the AI right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I like the DD...it has a nice touch I talked to Mike and I may combine this with his voice hack to make it a Berzerk: Arcade. That would indeed be very cool. I know Mike was thinking about adding diagonal support and said it wasn't trivial, and didn't have time to do it before releasing Berzerk VE. Hope you're able to get it working reliably! ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Player Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Very cool. The only things missing from the 2600 version of Berzerk were voice and diagonal fire from the robots. Berzerk Arcade would be the perfect name if you combined this with the voice hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 Good luck with getting the AI right! As you know that was my main concern. The algorithm that chooses which robot will shoot is not very smart. It's done randomly. I think it could be better but I figured we lived with this one for so long why change it I'm not really a hacker and not looking to get too involved with this. I did have to change the box in which the robot "looks" for the player. The range was originally -8 <= x <= 8 and -6 <= y <= 6. I've changed it to be -32 <= x <= 32 and -24 <= y <= 24. I'm still experimenting with these values but these seem to work fine. As I write this I think I might can make it better by using the changed values only for the diagonal box. Hmmm....I might be e-mailing you about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 The algorithm that chooses which robot will shoot is not very smart. It's done randomly. I think it could be better but I figured we lived with this one for so long why change it I'm not really a hacker and not looking to get too involved with this. It would be interesting to look at the original arcade algorithm to see how the robots decide when to fire. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 That would indeed be very cool. I know Mike was thinking about adding diagonal support and said it wasn't trivial, and didn't have time to do it before releasing Berzerk VE. Hope you're able to get it working reliably! I just got an e-mail from Mike with the sound data and all With the resent post to [stella] I think the voice would be more suited for the new AtariVox. The diagonal firing seems to be reliable and accurate but I'm still experimenting. This is why I sent the video vs. an actual ROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 It would be interesting to look at the original arcade algorithm to see how the robots decide when to fire. Or the A8/5200 version. That one feels like the arcade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I just got an e-mail from Mike with the sound data and all Excellent! With the resent post to [stella] I think the voice would be more suited for the new AtariVox. Hmmm, given this is an Atari title, it may not be possible to produce this game in cartridge form, but I can talk to them about it. Otherwise AtariVox support would only be useful for those who have another means of playing the game on a real system (Cuttle Cart, Krokodile Cart, etc.) Also, I wonder if the AtariVox voice can be made to sound like the robots in Berzerk? If so, it would be nice as all the speech from the game could be added (as opposed to a few select phrases), and it wouldn't cause the screen to blank out as it does now. Perhaps two different versions could be made. Berzerk DD:AV and Berzerk DD:VE. The diagonal firing seems to be reliable and accurate but I'm still experimenting. This is why I sent the video vs. an actual ROM. Cool, can't wait to try it out. I was wondering why you sent a video, that was kind of odd. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 It would be interesting to look at the original arcade algorithm to see how the robots decide when to fire. Or the A8/5200 version. That one feels like the arcade. Ahh, and that would probably be a bit easier to understand. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Whoah! Debro... just that video alone is good enough for me to just see and watch If you can get this to work that would be awesome-o 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARI TROLL Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 A+ debro on the video and diagnol shooting... Cheers and look forward to this project. Could you do the voice version with evil otto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard H. Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I wonder if the AtariVox voice can be made to sound like the robots in Berzerk? These are done on the AtariVox - www.vectrex.biz/Berserk.wav (excuse the poor recording quality) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I wonder if the AtariVox voice can be made to sound like the robots in Berzerk? These are done on the AtariVox - www.vectrex.biz/Berserk.wav (excuse the poor recording quality) Okay, I'm sold! Thanks! ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Since I lost interest in this I released my source to the PD. Hopefully someone will pick this up and finish it. I placed the source in the request: Berzerk hack - diagonal shots? thread. Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 If anyone picks this up, please be sure to add mazes, that cant be too hard, can it? that would perfect the 2600 berzerk experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espire8 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 If anyone picks this up, please be sure to add mazes, that cant be too hard, can it? that would perfect the 2600 berzerk experience.I did several maze designs recently in this thread I posted as an attempt to revive any interest for a follow up release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Tyler Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 So you know Assembly too, huh? I envy you. Trying to learn that is like... indescribable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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