AtariAger Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 ...... Heavy Sixer ...... $$$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepesc Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 But what makes this Atari 2600 so much more valuable than the other Ataris that sell for around $80 on ebay? I've seen alot of auctions which included repro hex plates which can bought from B & C for $2! Unfortunately many buyers have mistaken these for the originals. I bought a whole bag of these myself ... It's a very nice heavy, but $475 I wonder what the reserve is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I've seen alot of auctions which included repro hex plates There is no such thing as repro hex plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 If anyone has a big bag fulls, I'll take two. I still don't have any. I contacted B&C over a year ago about them then I never followed up. I just want to have a nice pair of them with the hexes in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepesc Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I've seen alot of auctions which included repro hex plates There is no such thing as repro hex plates. 954231[/snapback] Sorry, I was quoting the auction there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariAger Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 If anyone has a big bag fulls, I'll take two. I still don't have any. I contacted B&C over a year ago about them then I never followed up. I just want to have a nice pair of them with the hexes in place. 954246[/snapback] Same here...no word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Franzman Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) Absolutely MINT!!! ... my @$$! Where I come from, "mint" means unused, and perfect. Several of the items in this listing are clearly not perfect. There is apparently a scratch or gouge on the front, right edge of the console, as well as some small nicks in the yellow trim paint around the switch panel. The serial label is poorly positioned, running over the raised border. There seem to be some scratches or dings on the prongs side of the wall cube, upper left corner. There are screw marks on the fork terminals of the switchbox, which is corroded (though I grant that there is probably no such thing as an un-corroded vintage original switchbox). Overall, I might grade it NM- just based on these pictures. The controllers look outstanding, but I'd like to see the bottom sides. Edited February 26, 2008 by A.J. Franzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I've seen alot of auctions which included repro hex plates There is no such thing as repro hex plates. 954231[/snapback] I think what Dustin is trying to point out is that there is a difference between the original Atari (and Sears) hex plates and the replacement hex plates that can be bought from B&C. If you hold one of each side-by-side, there is supposed to be a noticible difference. If someone takes an original sixer joystick and slaps a replacement hex plate on top, it may be all official Atari parts, but still not the same as one found in the wild (or wherever) with an original hex plate still intact. Dustin makes a premium on his auctions by pointing out how his heavy sixer auctions contain all original parts. I never knew the original power supply was all grey until I read it in one of his auctions. If you are uninformed, you could buy something from ebay thinking you have a heavy sixer, but end up with a black power supply, replacement hex plates, radio shack RF, and a picture label combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Dustin makes a premium on his auctions by pointing out how his heavy sixer auctions contain all original parts. I never knew the original power supply was all grey until I read it in one of his auctions. If you are uninformed, you could buy something from ebay thinking you have a heavy sixer, but end up with a black power supply, replacement hex plates, radio shack RF, and a picture label combat. 954618[/snapback] I have seen both kinds from the "wild", he is misinformed. He buys/bought most of his stock from Povlok1 and collects his "knowledge" from him and the internet. And whilst he is correct about the power supply being the all grey one, this is only the case of the first shipments, Atari replaced it with the other grey one in later shipments. That is why the Sears heavy sixers come with the other grey power supply. I have personally picked up a CIB heavy sixer from an old woman in the suburbs of the bay-area in the past and found one of the "non-shiny" hex-plates and the later grey power supply in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the 5th ghost Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yep, I've also had one of the shinier Atari hex plates on a joystick that was picked up "in the wild" It was slightly thinner than the B&C one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Flamefest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariAger Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 Flamefest? 954904[/snapback] ..."Let's get ready...toooo...rumble"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Absolutely MINT!!! ... my @$$! Where I come from, "mint" means unused, and perfect. No, that would be "new" condition. "Mint" means it's been used but is otherwise perfect. I'm sure this originated as a way to describe coin condition, although it's not an actual recognized grade for coins in the US. (It may be an official grade in other countries.) It sounds like it describes condition as if it just came from the coin mint, but it wouldn't mean "new" because even colloquially you wouldn't say something was "mint" if it was new and/or uncirculated. Still, though, if something is scratched or gouged it is most definitely not "mint". My only point is something could be used and still be mint, though. I've got all sorts of stuff in mint condition; systems I bought, took out of the box 2 or 3 times to test and/or play, then put back in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I think it's fine to call something mint so long as there's no noticeable wear of any kind to the item. I rarely use mint without the near prefix though, I think it's hard to say exactly what will set off some ebayers, and listing something as mint can get you in trouble. Subjective grading will always be open to debate. Listing something as perfect can get you in trouble too, as bjk recently found out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Absolutely MINT!!! ... my @$$! Where I come from, "mint" means unused, and perfect. No, that would be "new" condition. 954915[/snapback] "Mint in box" is a higher quality standard than "new in box". It implies that the box is not only unopened, but it is also unblemished. That having been said, I can't particularly fault this guy for being deceptive since his photos clearly show that the Atari has been removed from the box (and therefore the box, if there is one, has clearly been opened). Further, he doesn't picture the box at all. He may be drawing in some views from people who want a MIB unit and aren't interested in anything else, but I don't think he expects to profit unjustly from that (since such people wouldn't be interested in his system). I do commend the guy for trying to point out what's good about his product. Many people seem to post ebay listings without putting in any time or effort. I suppose such listings can be good for bargain-hunters, since there will be less competition on them than on better listings. But why do the listers bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Flamefest? 954904[/snapback] Maybe he's just here to whore his auctions! Dustin now that you are an official member of Atariage, you will have to abide by the rules, & offer the 50% discount on all ebay sells to AAers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 That having been said, I can't particularly fault this guy for being deceptive since his photos clearly show that the Atari has been removed from the box (and therefore the box, if there is one, has clearly been opened). Further, he doesn't picture the box at all. He may be drawing in some views from people who want a MIB unit and aren't interested in anything else, but I don't think he expects to profit unjustly from that (since such people wouldn't be interested in his system). Mint system, not mint in box system. There is no mention of box in the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariAger Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 Mint system, not mint in box system. There is no mention of box in the auction. 954938[/snapback] ...How many people open something up and toss out the box the same day. If it is used once and stored away for 20 or more years...well...that is mint too me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I don't know that I'd call the system Mint. Really I didn't look at the pics. I was only saying he claims it is mint, not that it was mint in box. Alot of times mint in box doesn't even mean you get a mint box either, only the contents are suppose to be mint inside. Pricing wise, he's got this guy beat by a mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepesc Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 And with 6 bids by the same 0-feedback bidder even! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 And with 6 bids by the same 0-feedback bidder even! 954952[/snapback] Yeah trying hard to break the reserve, even though the seller asked bidders with less than 15 feedbacks not to bid. Why does that always bring out the newbies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariAger Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why does that always bring out the newbies? 954955[/snapback] Being not allowed to bid...makes you want to bid that much more!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This thread is about to get one of those long winded replies. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I love those hex disk controllers, always good to see some around. I just need one more to get a pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buyatari Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I remember when all Ataris were under $10.00 I think the antique roadshow is to blame for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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