neotokeo2001 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) BERZERK ARCADE Yes. That is a diagonal shot. They shoot diagonally when you least expect it. Evil Otto joins the fun. I also have a second version where I made the sprites smaller. I think the smaller sprites play better. You tell me. This is based on Debros diagonal shot hack. Here are the changes so far: Robots fire diagonally Number font graphics Extra player graphics Player color Score color Evil Otto's graphics Electrocution glitch pixel removed Increased difficulty Evil Otto game 1 default This is about as far as I can take it. Maybe someone else can help. Suggested changes: Title screen More mazes (maybe have some non-mirrored mazes) Voice via AtariVox More aggressive diagonal firing algorithm I hope everyone can pitch in to make this the ultimate Atari 2600 version of BEZERK. It plays good now but it can be a lot better with the extra touches. I will do whatever I can to help. Anybody else have any other suggestions? Here are the BINS and DEBROS original disassembly: Berzerk Arcade-Berzerk_AE_normal.bin Berzerk Arcade small-Berzerk_AE_small.bin DEBROS Original assembly file(Right Click/Save target as)-BERZERK_WIP.txt Not all changes are in this file. Edited August 7, 2006 by neotokeo2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 In the hacks forum, I posted a version where leaving via the right blocks the left wall only and vice versa. With that exception, assymmetric mazes are apt to be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 In the hacks forum, I posted a version where leaving via the right blocks the left wall only and vice versa. With that exception, assymmetric mazes are apt to be difficult. Could you add that into this version? Assymmetric mazes were wishful thinking. I would settle for more mazes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Munchkin Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 I would love to see someday if posible Berzerk hacked into Frenzy. Wade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 That would be a pretty amazing feat using only the 2600's native 128 bytes of ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Munchkin Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 That would be a pretty amazing feat using only the 2600's native 128 bytes of ram Well if anyone could pull it off I know you are the guy that could! Wade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 That would be a pretty amazing feat using only the 2600's native 128 bytes of ram So use a SuperChip. Actually, using a SuperChip, Frenzy might be doable but it would require a near rewrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 Where is the Berzerk love?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Munchkin Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Where is the Berzerk love?? Neo I think you did a great job on this hack and you are right the original smaller sprites look better than the bigger version you made. It is better with the robots firing diagonally. Wade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Why use voice via atarivox, what's wrong with the voice used in Berzerk VE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 Why use voice via atarivox, what's wrong with the voice used in Berzerk VE? Berzerk VE could be used. The only downside is the large size of the BIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Why use voice via atarivox, what's wrong with the voice used in Berzerk VE? Berzerk VE could be used. The only downside is the large size of the BIN. To get the changes in I'm suggesting you're going to at least have to expand this to 8K. As for using the voice from Berzerk VE, I'd suggest getting Mike Mika's permission first since it was his work. Plus, wouldn't using the AtariVox allow voice during game play? Without it the VCS has to clear the screen because it takes so much time to produce the voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Plus, wouldn't using the AtariVox allow voice during game play? Without it the VCS has to clear the screen because it takes so much time to produce the voice. Ah! Good point. I hadn't thought about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Without it the VCS has to clear the screen because it takes so much time to produce the voice. Playing digitized audio isn't terribly CPU intensive, actually. The problem is that it takes about 12 cycles every other scan line, INCLUDING in VBLANK and overscan. I've thought it might be interesting to write a Berzerk kernel that would draw EITHER the player or the robots while playing audio, and then work that in so that when Evil Otto was about to appear everything would flicker during "Intruder Alert, Intruder Alert" but the screen would still be visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Munchkin Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Well actually in the original game you could never really understand that robot voice, I think a more clear updated human voice might be better? Wade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Well actually in the original game you could never really understand that robot voice, I think a more clear updated human voice might be better? Wade Don't you think that since it is supposed to be a robot talking...it should shound like one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Munchkin Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Well actually in the original game you could never really understand that robot voice, I think a more clear updated human voice might be better? Wade Don't you think that since it is supposed to be a robot talking...it should sound like one? Well it depends in the 70's and 80's as far as movies go everyone thought a robot should sound like that, but if you hear robots today they sound much more human really. Even our movies changed like Terminator that did not sound like a robot. I guess really the quest is to get the most human sounding robots for us humans to interact with in the future. I think if a robot sounds like what we used to think a robot should sound like that is old technology there, robots are capable of sounding human now. Wade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) I think the robots in Berzerk should sound like the a couple of the robots on that planet of human hating robots in Futurama. Edited August 21, 2006 by BrianC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 Here is a label with original artwork by T2KFreeker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Don't let the Wal-Mart spokes-smiley near the games section for too long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMika Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 This hack looks great! Regarding Berzerk VE, please use any of it that you'd like. I should still have the source someplace if that is needed. I can't wait to see how this turns out! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard H. Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 AtariVox allow voice during game play (excuse the bad sampling) Berzerk.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Well actually in the original game you could never really understand that robot voice, I think a more clear updated human voice might be better? Wade Don't you think that since it is supposed to be a robot talking...it should sound like one? Well it depends in the 70's and 80's as far as movies go everyone thought a robot should sound like that, but if you hear robots today they sound much more human really. Even our movies changed like Terminator that did not sound like a robot. I guess really the quest is to get the most human sounding robots for us humans to interact with in the future. I think if a robot sounds like what we used to think a robot should sound like that is old technology there, robots are capable of sounding human now. Wade That's what I hated most about that crappy show Small Wonder. It tried to perpetuate a 1960s idea of robots about 20 years too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdcaldavis2k Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I think the robots in Berzerk should sound like the a couple of the robots on that planet of human hating robots in Futurama. Maybe a clip of Bender Bending Rodriguez (aka Bender) saying "Bit my shiny metal ass!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2KFREEKER Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Here is a label with original artwork by T2KFreeker. Thanx' for the props man, just make me blush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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