chuckwalla Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Anyone buy this or have any experience with these systems. I assume it has similar reliability as the Messiah NES clone (?) Any input appreciated. On ebay now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...mMakeTrack=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfalcon2003 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Anyone buy this or have any experience with these systems. I assume it has similar reliability as the Messiah NES clone (?) Any input appreciated. On ebay now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...mMakeTrack=true very nice. had no idea these even existed. need to find same info out as well. please help anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 It's real hardware from what I'm told so it should actually be 100 percent compatible with all NTSC carts but I have no first hand experience with this machine *yet*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 It looks like SNES system with a Tri-star adapter in one unit. Might get one of that for myself to free up the space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 It looks like SNES system with a Tri-star adapter in one unit. Might get one of that for myself to free up the space. Uhm, the Tri-Star is a N64 add-on that let's you play N64, SNES and NES in a N64. You know, tri as in three? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 There are 2 different versions of Tri-star (also sold under the name Super-. Original one for SNES to play both NES and Famicom. Then there's Tri-star 64 for the N64. http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/...als/super8.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk2600 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 it does not look like it will be able to play 3rd party nes carts judging by the shape of the slot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Probably not. Some of those unlicensed clones do not have lockout chip and a unlicensed 3rd party games are designed to bypass the lockout chip. A few of them may not work on unlicensed console because it can't bypass a nonexistient lockout chip. A few SNES games (Mario RPG I think and a few more) were designed to refuse to play on consoles without the lockout chip. So it may be interesting to see if this console will work properly or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfalcon2003 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 It looks like SNES system with a Tri-star adapter in one unit. Might get one of that for myself to free up the space. Uhm, the Tri-Star is a N64 add-on that let's you play N64, SNES and NES in a N64. You know, tri as in three? Is there really a system or an adapter like this that will play N64, SNES, and NES games. I was gonna get the one on ebay, but would rather have one system that would play all three games for sure. Is this currently being sold? Or will be. Would wait if something like this will be coming out to be able to play all three. I also have Bible Buffet, Sunday Funday, and a Super famicom cassette (import SNES game). Would these work on the system being sold on ebay? Someone please help if they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 (edited) DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE I'm so getting one, and snapping the tabs inside if they have em so I can play my super famicom games. And I will file out the nes cart slot so it can fit 3rd party games. Micro Machines FTW! Edited November 19, 2006 by keilbaca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Yes there are devide that plays NES and SNES on N64. I can't remember if it has pass through N64 slot or not. Now if someone would release an adapter to play 2600/5200/7800 games through Jaguar, I would be very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfalcon2003 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Yes there are devide that plays NES and SNES on N64. I can't remember if it has pass through N64 slot or not. Now if someone would release an adapter to play 2600/5200/7800 games through Jaguar, I would be very happy. That would be nice. I'd ditch my 7800 and 5200 then for sure. Hate the bulky 5200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfalcon2003 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Yes there are devide that plays NES and SNES on N64. I can't remember if it has pass through N64 slot or not. Now if someone would release an adapter to play 2600/5200/7800 games through Jaguar, I would be very happy. Will try and research a little more about it for the N64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It's real hardware from what I'm told so it should actually be 100 percent compatible with all NTSC carts but I have no first hand experience with this machine *yet*. Well, I've been playing around with one of these - anyone know offhand what a SNES clone would have for compatibility problems? I've tried a bunch of things and they seem fine. As far as NES - I'm pretty intimately familiar with the NOAC incompatibilities (I've got a whole bunch of clones) - and this unit seems to have the usual suspect issues. i.e. walking through walls in Gauntlet, no display in Castlevania III. Oddly enough this guy runs stuff other clones I have don't run. Sound and video output is quite good. Pack in controllers are serviceable, but not as good as real SNES ones. So far it's pretty cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It's real hardware from what I'm told so it should actually be 100 percent compatible with all NTSC carts but I have no first hand experience with this machine *yet*. Well, I've been playing around with one of these - anyone know offhand what a SNES clone would have for compatibility problems? I've tried a bunch of things and they seem fine. As far as NES - I'm pretty intimately familiar with the NOAC incompatibilities (I've got a whole bunch of clones) - and this unit seems to have the usual suspect issues. i.e. walking through walls in Gauntlet, no display in Castlevania III. Oddly enough this guy runs stuff other clones I have don't run. Sound and video output is quite good. Pack in controllers are serviceable, but not as good as real SNES ones. So far it's pretty cool Can you show some pics of the controllers and the hookups you get with this deal please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Can you show some pics of the controllers and the hookups you get with this deal please. They look like standard SNES controllers with standard connectors. They are however different internally I've found. While you can plug in a real SNES controller and use the FCTwin in SNES mode fine, when you switch it to NES the controller does not work properly. Apparently the FCTwin controllers are wired differently to allow them to function with the NES mode circuitry. I swapped the circuit board out of the FCTwin controller into a SNES controller (the plastics are identical). Works and feels great. Build quality on the FCTwin itself is good. Plastic case is decently thick and molded just like the mini SNES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) That's pretty neat. I want one ... with wireless controllers ... that can also play Genesis and N64 games. No wait, I already have one of those, it's my XBOX! So the system select switch is in the power switch? Crazy! It's weird seeing all these old systems that used to cost so much now in (re)production for next to nothing. Between this, the Coleco Sega unit, the Genesis on a chip machines, and the potential portable Atari Flashback, it doesn't seem like there's anything that CAN'T be done with old systems. cheaper source here: http://store.videogamecentral.com/fctwin.html Edited December 3, 2006 by Flojomojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Unfortunately Flo, there is a few systems that can't be reproduced cheaply. Vextrex (built in CRT) It may be possible to do a low cost LCD version the same way there are LCD based digital osciloscope but the display resolution will defiantly suffer and there will be lots of jaggies. Microvision is another oddity that may not be reproduceable. Unlike other consoles, Microvision put CPU on the cart rather than on the main system. The main has only: LCD, LCD driver, battery holder, sound, and knob. Adventurevision and Virtualboy (LED array) Intellivision (used several obsolete and out of production GI chips) Those 10-in-1 and 25-in-1 Intellivison games are really NOAC with crappy port of some Inty games and worse sound. Coleco Telestar and original Odyssey Pong probably uses a GI design as GI did produce several variations of Pong-on-a-chip. There are some NOS chips, particularly GI AY-3-8500 on eBay ($20 for lot of 13) so you could say we already have pong-on-a-chip capability. Stick it inside a pocket TV and add a knob and you're all set Fairchild Channel F, Arcadia, and O^2 probably won't see the light because not many people knows about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 cheaper source here: http://store.videogamecentral.com/fctwin.html Look agian they charge $70 dollars for even Air Mail shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter667 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 If you are after one at an OK price, they're all over ebay, and all pretty much roughly $60 total. I ordered mine from baysoftgames.com, and it came up to something around $58 after shipping. Now I am just itching to get it in the mail. For some reason, I am drawn to odd or interesting bits of game tech... usually of the older variety (anything new is more or less mainstream as it gets... which isn't bad mind you). Current favourites on the unusual list: Twin Famicom (FDS and Fami together, licensed by Nintendo, built by Sharp) very cool piece. The Vectrex, Micro Genius IQ-501 (a decently built famiclone from back in the day), Genesis 3, and my translucent orange PSX. I'll give input on the machine's performance when I get mine... I happen to have a few titles that people believe will puch compatability boundaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagasian Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 You guys are totally nuts paying $60 for an unofficial clone of the NES/SNES. NOAC clones are horrid for NES games, so you are left with a SNES clone... and they have their own issues, ESPECIALLY when it comes to sound. So, why not spend $60 on a good condition real SNES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Because a real SNES can't play NES games without adapters and the adapters most likely uses the cheap NOAC technology so it wouldn't be good either. And having 2 separate real consoles is a waste of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter667 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 "You guys are totally nuts paying $60 for an unofficial clone of the NES/SNES. NOAC clones are horrid for NES games, so you are left with a SNES clone... and they have their own issues, ESPECIALLY when it comes to sound. So, why not spend $60 on a good condition real SNES?" Hose off already... I OWN multiple NES and SNES decks. This is interesting regardless. It may also save some space, as well as some convenient inputs. I also want to see for myself how well this thing will work out...since this one is fairly new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfalcon2003 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Was gonna get one to save space, but will now wait to see how this one turns out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 It's new and interesting, with capabilities we haven't seen since the (crappy) Tristar or resorting to emulation. It's sixty bucks, which is not that much in the scheme of things -- a couple tanks of gas or the price of a new video game. I already have a beautiful SNES mini, but I'm still interested in how well this thing works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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