atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) Hi there, Can anyone help me? I got this really nice old PC at the flea market on Sunday. I cleaned it up and it says it is an Atari 1200XL. I don't really know what that is. It didn't have a VGA output but a TV cord was included. In one of the disk drives was a DOS disk, but it is version 2.0. It didn't work so I got out the DOS Disk for my old PC. My disk is version 6.22, but it doesn't work either. I think it's the last one you can get on 5.25" disk. It is supposed to work, but it doesn't on my Atari. I just get this nice colored Atari BIOS Logo. I am not able to get into the BIOS setup. I did a search on Google to see if I could find out how, and I can't find anything at all. Does anyone know which key I have to press? Is there a way to hook up a CD-ROM drive and an NIC? I will post a picture of this little desktop computer. Thanks in advance, Atarinoob Edited December 31, 2006 by atarinoob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Holy crap. That's actually a 1450 XLD. Super-rare, what did you pay for it? The Atari 8-bit machines aren't IBM compatible. They use a proprietry disk format. You should just put the disk in the drive then power on the computer for it to boot DOS. Also, I think that machine doesn't have BASIC built in so you might need to grab it on cartridge. Finally, more pictures would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Please tell me this is an early April fools joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) I just read some answers i got in the comp.sys.atari.8bit usenet. I know now my MS-DOS will not work. The label says "1200XL" Its a rare computer? What's a BASIC cartridge? April fools joke? You confuse me. Edited December 30, 2006 by atarinoob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandviewCoin Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 This has top be a joke, lets see more pics of this.. No offense if it is real..jeez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 where did you swipe the picture from ? As Rybags said, Atari 1200 (or 1450) xl's aren't pc comaptible so you can't use crappy ms/pc dos with it you have to use something called 'Atari Dos' Also you can't you a standard modern pc monitor with an atari 1200/1450 unless you are competent in building yourself an extension cable that goes from the connector that goes into the pc end and building a cable witha connector thaty goes into your atari So you are better of getting yourself a nice portable tv, get yourself a cable that plugs into the rf/tv socket at the atari and tv end please note, unless you are from the US, you might not be able to do anything with it as 1200/1450 where only made for the US market (no pal/secam models are known to exist) as the machine probably comes with a NTSC/US pSU (which you'll have to swap over for a PAL/Secam psu, if your not from the states) Also, as the system is NTSC only, you will need to get yourself a portable tv or television that is multi format compatible (i.e PAL/NTSC) or you'll get the wrong colours and everything will be in shades of grey Apart from that, if this ISNT some april fools joke...well done on your find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) I got a plastic bag with some stuff along the computer. A cable to the TV's composite input was included. Works so far. I do have a BASIC cartridge. I now get a blue editor screen thats shows "READY" Some keys do not work I take pictures with my Ricoh R4 cam, here is another. Edited December 30, 2006 by atarinoob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) The label says "1200XL" The label says so indeed. But it must be false then. The machine is 1450XLD. I don't know exactly, how many complete units were produced, but maybe 20 or 30 perhaps. So it is rather hard to find stuff, you know The original labels on 1400XL and 1450XLD are sometimes missing, so maybe someone has "fixed" it using the label from the standard 1200XL (not a rare computer). Here: http://atariki.krap.pl/images/d/d8/1200xl-main.jpg is a photo of a _real_ 1200XL, it differs from yours quite a bit. BTW. The 1450XLD is so rare that it is hard to believe you're not making fools here. Edited December 30, 2006 by drac030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Oh. It lacks the disc drives! OK, i swear: NO photoshop magic going on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream And Fly Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 That is so incredibly cool. Talk about a lucky find!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Judging by the low numbers made, it's entirely possible that many parts never made it past the proto stage, so using a 1200XL label just to finish the machine would be entirely feasible. Some keys don't work? You mean the normal alpha-numerics? Or, the function keys? Start, Select, Option don't do anything unless a program specifically checks them. F1-F4 are used for screen blank, disable keyboard, switch character set, turn screen on/off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yeah alpha-numerics. Some more work now, after pressing them harder many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtrappomegranate Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Wow! Is it possible for you to post some larger pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 The power supply is not the original one, but a modified internal PC ps. I googled for 1450XLD, found some pics of it, and yes they look like mine. I liked the design and wanted to throw a modern AMD based PC into it, but if it's so rare as you say, i'll preserve it in the setup it is now. Do you think $125 plus giving a working PSone was a good deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtrappomegranate Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Do you think $125 plus giving a working PSone was a good deal? Very much so, it would be worth more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Wow! Is it possible for you to post some larger pictures? Of course, if the forum allows? I shrinked the pics as most forums limit size of uploads. I see in your reactions i have to consider me lucky gotten this item... And: no, i don't think i will sell it right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 $125 + a PS1 is a bargain. I have no idea what they're worth but would have to be among the rarest computers ever made. By the looks of it, it's barely ever been used. Is it able to boot that DOS disk? Provided the correct drive is online, you should at least be getting a BOOT ERROR message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtrappomegranate Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Thanks for the nice pic! You are indeed very lucky to have found that machine. You won't have any trouble getting a good price for it if you do decide to sell, but I'd keep it if I were you. Very few of these exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) Wohoo! I assumed it would try both drives. I put the disk into the right drive and it booted! At least it accessed the drive and made some "tock tock tock " noise. But i reach the same "READY" as before. What to do now? And thanks for your help! You are so nice here on atariage. Edited December 30, 2006 by atarinoob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Type DOS Should come up with the DOS menu. Just make sure you don't format your boot floppy, since I'm assuming you don't have any other Atari disks. What we need to do now is get you an APE interface so you can use the PC as an emulated drive and run downloaded stuff... ... and a dump of your OS ROMs would be nice to have a look at too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarinoob Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Fine! I now have the DOS menu, looked at the directory, too. There are 2 files, DOS.SYS and DUP.SYS . If someone has a manual for me, that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtrappomegranate Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 You can find information on using Atari DOS here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 If someone has a manual for me, that would be great. now that would be really amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 You guys have got to be kidding. This is obviously a hoax. The two pictures are identical, he just zoomed in a little on the second one. Perhaps not coincidentally, theres a 1400 on Ebay at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 You guys have got to be kidding. This is obviously a hoax. The two pictures are identical, he just zoomed in a little on the second one. Perhaps not coincidentally, theres a 1400 on Ebay at the moment. link please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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