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NTSC Rarity Guide - R10s

Started by Dino, Apr 12 2007 6:55 PM

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#151 Dino OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu May 8, 2008 10:46 PM

On the general issue of rarity though, I do not believe, based on Romhunter's definition of an R10 (i.e. <=3 copies) that there are many "released" "original" R10s. "Unreleased" and "Unoriginal" would include pirates/multicarts (e.g. Scala, Hotshot, Atrax), "homebrews" (such as Gamma Attack, Red Sea Crossing (which is probably fake anyway), Birthday Mania), copy carts (Xante, Romox) and unreleased games (e.g Playaround Demo cart). Taking these out, Romhunter's list would be as follows:

PAL Mystique/Playaround games
Condor Attack PAL Square case - I know of two that exist.
Flag Capture Atari (minor label variation)
Inca Gold PAL (pirate)
Karate V case
Magicard (blue)
Space Chase Monogrammed
Spectracube Invasion suntek (pirate?)
Sears Superman - I know of 3 that exist
Words Attack (proto?)
Zoo Fun Suntek (pirate)

Of the above list, I've left unbolded those that have only a matter of time before more than 3 are found, based on the frequency with which they are showing up.

That leaves 7 games, of which the Suntek games we are not sure whether they are pirates or originals and Words Attack, which may be an unreleased proto. there is also Space Chase Monnogrammed, which may or may not exist and Inca Gold which is arguably not an original release.

That leaves PAL Condor Attack and Karate as the only confirmed R10 original released titles.

[Note: Also missing is Homevision, but that list is currently a WIP]

Edited by Dino, Thu May 8, 2008 10:47 PM.

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Posted Fri May 9, 2008 1:16 AM

I'm thinking PAL Inca Gold will turn out to be the original release. We'll know more once we see a screenshot. I'm hoping for that big beautiful Funvision logo on the screen.

Funvision did some original stuff. Their logo is inside the rom of HES Challege, but has been disabled.

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Posted Fri May 9, 2008 2:23 AM

Yes, I also think a few Funvision titles were true originals.

About the Suntek titles: I don't think one of them is a true original release.

I left some of them bolded, because their original Home Vision versions still haven't been found yet (or were never officially released at all).

As I said before: Suntek's Dragon Defender is shown on Home Vision's Repro Cart box, Suntek's Motocross contains the Home Vision logo, Suntek's Ski Run could be Home Vision's announced Skiing Game, and Suntek's Unknown Game 1 could very well be Home Vision's announced Treasure Discovery.

Removed the Atrax cart from the R10 list, because it's a proto.

About Condor Attack: I have reasons to believe that the original version could be a Funvision title, instead of an Ultravision title.

About Karate: traces of a Bit Corp logo were found inside.

Bit_Corp_logo_found_in_Karate.gif

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Fri May 9, 2008 2:37 AM.

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Posted Fri May 9, 2008 7:57 AM

View PostRom Hunter, on Fri May 9, 2008 6:23 PM, said:

Yes, I also think a few Funvision titles were true originals.

About the Suntek titles: I don't think one of them is a true original release.

I left some of them bolded, because their original Home Vision versions still haven't been found yet (or were never officially released at all).

As I said before: Suntek's Dragon Defender is shown on Home Vision's Repro Cart box, Suntek's Motocross contains the Home Vision logo, Suntek's Ski Run could be Home Vision's announced Skiing Game, and Suntek's Unknown Game 1 could very well be Home Vision's announced Treasure Discovery.

Removed the Atrax cart from the R10 list, because it's a proto.

About Condor Attack: I have reasons to believe that the original version could be a Funvision title, instead of an Ultravision title.

About Karate: traces of a Bit Corp logo were found inside.

Attachment Bit_Corp...n_Karate.gif

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Ultravision documentation seems to suggest that their games are originals. If you see their advertisments, they act as though their games are originals. That of course is not the be all and end all, but it makes me question that you think their games are not original. It could be that programmers use code from other games or were contracted to bitcorp to release the same game under a different label and used the same code.

As for Suntek, its hard to believe that the pirates would release the game and not the originating company. It seems that Suntek and Homevision are the same company and released some games under the Homevision label and swapped to suntek for the release of other games

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Posted Fri May 9, 2008 9:38 AM

Don't think so, Dino.

Let's see which Home Vision titles will pop up in the future.

I'll leave the few bolded Suntek titles as the originals for now until I know more.

Same goes for the Ultravision games.

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Posted Fri May 9, 2008 2:44 PM

So why is Magicard regarded as a R10,there is more than 3 known.

#157 Rom Hunter OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat May 10, 2008 1:26 AM

The R10 is for the blue label version.

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Posted Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:47 AM

http://atarimania.co...n_sauver=Search

Ok, any others?

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Posted Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:40 AM

http://www.atarimani...ERSION_ID=18722

Game Library Pak

As far as I know, only CPUWIZ and I own this.

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Posted Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:58 AM

Thanks.

Could you make a nice picture of that box, CincYnoTi?

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#161 Dino OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:14 PM

View PostRom Hunter, on Sat May 10, 2008 1:38 AM, said:

Don't think so, Dino.

Let's see which Home Vision titles will pop up in the future.

I'll leave the few bolded Suntek titles as the originals for now until I know more.

Same goes for the Ultravision games.

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Rom,

Which R10s (NTSC/PAL) do you consider are originals?

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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:15 AM

http://www.atarimani...n_sauver=Search

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#163 Rom Hunter OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 9, 2008 3:26 AM

Another interesting one:
http://atarimania.co...S...0852&MENU=2

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Posted Wed Jul 9, 2008 7:19 AM

Someone should phone up Spielberg and tell him to pause making movies and hand over his Atari game. :ponder:
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