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beamer320i, on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:34 PM, said:
Ok, listed below are the three main belts with part numbers from CPC for the Atari 410:
Rewind: 97mm x 1.2 = CPC AVBELT 69
Fast Forward: 113mm x 1.1mm = CPC AVBELT 76
Play (Main): 201mm x 1.2 mm = CPC AVBELT 100
As regards the counter belt, any small rubber band will suffice as it's non-critical.
Rewind: 97mm x 1.2 = CPC AVBELT 69
Fast Forward: 113mm x 1.1mm = CPC AVBELT 76
Play (Main): 201mm x 1.2 mm = CPC AVBELT 100
As regards the counter belt, any small rubber band will suffice as it's non-critical.
Just to let you all know replaceing the belts does nothing for rewind and play if the IDLERS are weak now the play idler is a white disk with a rubber hose washer inside it
You can use a #6 sink diverter sink washer from hardware store look in the Drawers of rubber parts bring white idler part with you then show it to store keeper hardware store employer and ask for replacement hose washer they will find exact part instantly and it only costs $1.50 or less mine costed 95¢ anyway the line table youre working on with news paper cause
these rubber washers are real rubber and leave streaks on table then replace washer seat it by rolling on the news paper it will seem to taught and to tight ignore this as this is what a new wahser feels like in the plastic holder idler BE CAREFULL NOT TO BREAK THE IDELR WHEN INSERTING OR REMOVING THE OLD washer ..
then on the TAKE up reel remove the RED plastic cap using a wire cutter VERY carefully not to mar it then use finger nail to
remove it the rest of the way carefull not to snap it off inside it self then remove the take up wheel the thing that takes the tape up and remove the spring cut it in half I dont mean the circle cut you know normally cut it in half make it half as long then strech it out a little not to mutch just a little just to make it seem as long as the old one but it will be weaker as intended cause the toughtness of the spring factory was a Factory REWORK crock they never caught cause they only tested it to see it "play" when hooked to atari this is because back then it was ported to mexico and they DIDNT test to see if it rewound or fast forwarded properly but when you snip the spring in half making it as weak as the felt almost it actually will rewind like it was better than new cause even out of the box in 1979 it never rewound I thought it was defective but they all are and the spring was the wrong length so just snip it it will make it worth MORE not less cause it will operate properly .. ok now the next thing i say will be very imortant AT ALL TIMES when Storing unit NOT using it
make shure you push play and pause at the same time
so push play then make shure pause is engaged when storing this relases all idlers off the rewind play wheels and motor asembly and makes it store in a way that the rewind fast forward idler and the play idler are disengaged.
the rewind idler is non replacable or really hard to find it makes a rattle noise cause noone stored it properly and it got a dent in it if someone would have pushed play and pause from the factory all i would have had to replace is the main belt and the play idler the capistain roller pinch roller was MINT cause it was disengaged !!!!!!!! so please push play and pause now..
I noticed this 20 years ago but since I had lost the tape player i could not push play and pause I found it and the pause and play were engaged but the thing was in peices I fixed 2 of the 3 i have I got one on ebay and it is in mint condition the spring and the new play idler fixed those damn load errors..
as far as getting belts they are not hard to find .the hose washer is the most important part because it determines the speed of play and the pinch roller is important too but if the take up reel spring is to strong it wont move causeing tape to be eaten so snip that then replace it and idler rubber and belts and viola you now can save and load data at same speed as you saved it.
finnally after 23 years of errors and load errors I loaded my game and got spanish to load after 3 years of errors I finnaly decided to FIX it ..
the idea of the play idler came to me when fixing a VCR the same way the idlers were toast..
now there is a rubber supply house on the internet that might fabricate a rewind fastforward idler for you but since it works when you shorten the take up wheel spring by cutting it in half why so it rattles when rewinding at least it rewinds and fast forwards.
If anyone Finds a Atari® 410 in mint condition that from the Factory or when new had the pause and play buttons pushed and the rewind or fastforward idler is in mint condition let me know I want to buy it as I always want a way to save and retrive data in case of a emp disaster ..
