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[moycon]

spacecadet, on Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:12 PM, said:

(Yeah, I feel a little buyer's remorse now, but it was one of those situations where I felt like there was not going to be a better time to buy for the foreseeable future... not until the 80GB model goes *below* $499 and there are more good PS3 games on the market.)

This was my feeling also when hitting that purchase button for the PS3! LOL Kinda sad when you think about it.
It was the same feeling I had when I traded in my Trans Am for a poop brown pickup. Like this is a transaction I really don't want to make now....but in the future It'll want it.

[ninjarabbit]

If you really want to play PS2 games that bad just buy a PS2. I'm not going to rush out and buy a 60 GB PS3 for the sake of playing PS2 games on it when I already have a PS2 to actually play PS2 games on. I'm going to wait until the PS3 has some games worth playing and drops down to a reasonable price before I buy one and no I'm not being pro or anti-Sony.

[Fighter17]

Is this next-gen even fun?

And I thought a Sega Saturn with the VCD card was multimedia.

Edited by Fighter17, Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:32 PM.

[Lord Helmet]

Fighter17, on Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:31 PM, said:

Is this next-gen even fun?

Without a doubt. Fun as hell

[atari5200dude]

I am in no hurry to buy the PS3, It costs way to damn much its sort of like playstation 3 or eating so....
yeah, I just hope they make GTA IV for the ps2.

[Fighter17]

Lord Helmet, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:48 AM, said:

Fighter17, on Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:31 PM, said:

Is this next-gen even fun?

Without a doubt. Fun as hell

(Back to the Saturn)

[spacecadet]

ninjarabbit, on Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:23 PM, said:

If you really want to play PS2 games that bad just buy a PS2.

Considering I already own 2 of them, that's not really a solution

Does everybody else just have unlimited space in their house to have multiple consoles hooked up to their living room TV? The whole point of backward compatibility is that you only have to have one system instead of two. If I'd waited and got the 80GB later, there'd be a whole bunch of PS2 games I couldn't play on it, meaning I'd have to have two systems hooked up anyway when I could just have one. (And I'd have to keep playing all my PS2 games with a wired controller, vs. the PS3's standard wireless.) It really defeats the whole purpose of backward compatibility in the first place if you can't play pretty much everything. You may as well not have it at all if 30% of games don't work.

I used to be in the "if you want to play 'x' game, just buy 'x' console" camp, but at a certain point you've just got too many wires, too many power strips, too many machines lying all over your living room and it gets to be a mess that you can't ever clean up. I literally don't have another outlet available in my surge protector. So I don't see the reason why I should have to have both a PS2 and a PS3 hooked up when the PS3 is made to play PS2 games. Well, the 60GB model is, anyway.

If I'd waited, though, that's exactly what I'd have to do. Because there are always gonna be PS2 games I want to play, just like there are still Atari 2600 games I want to play. Good games never stop being good, so I may as well always have a system hooked up to play them... but that doesn't mean I want like 60 different systems connected in my living room all the time.

[moycon]

spacecadet, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:44 PM, said:

If I'd waited and got the 80GB later, there'd be a whole bunch of PS2 games I couldn't play on it, meaning I'd have to have two systems hooked up anyway when I could just have one. (And I'd have to keep playing all my PS2 games with a wired controller, vs. the PS3's standard wireless.) It really defeats the whole purpose of backward compatibility in the first place if you can't play pretty much everything. You may as well not have it at all if 30% of games don't work.

I don't understand the whole BC argument. So are you saying that you only purchase consoles with 100% BC? If so you missed out on a lot of great games. Unless you own 100% of the games made for a system why would care if the BC was 100% compatible anyways? For that matter, if you need to and have the time and desire to play that many last gen games, why bother upgrading, sounds to me like you would have plenty of titles to keep you busy for years. I agree with ninjarabbit, you could have stuck with the PS2. Also for someone that had that deep of a desire to play last gen games, I wouldn't think 1.2 square feet of space would be a problem,unless you live in a 6x6 prison cell I guess and honestly, you don't need 7 systems hooked up to play a game on 1 system, these things take 2 minutes to hook up. I would find it hard to believe anyone on this forum can't spare 2 minutes of their time.to hook up a system, we aint that frickin lazy...are we?

Edited by moycon, Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:07 PM.

[MCHufnagel]

spacecadet, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:44 PM, said:

ninjarabbit, on Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:23 PM, said:

If you really want to play PS2 games that bad just buy a PS2.

Considering I already own 2 of them, that's not really a solution

Does everybody else just have unlimited space in their house to have multiple consoles hooked up to their living room TV? The whole point of backward compatibility is that you only have to have one system instead of two. If I'd waited and got the 80GB later, there'd be a whole bunch of PS2 games I couldn't play on it, meaning I'd have to have two systems hooked up anyway when I could just have one. (And I'd have to keep playing all my PS2 games with a wired controller, vs. the PS3's standard wireless.) It really defeats the whole purpose of backward compatibility in the first place if you can't play pretty much everything. You may as well not have it at all if 30% of games don't work.

I used to be in the "if you want to play 'x' game, just buy 'x' console" camp, but at a certain point you've just got too many wires, too many power strips, too many machines lying all over your living room and it gets to be a mess that you can't ever clean up. I literally don't have another outlet available in my surge protector. So I don't see the reason why I should have to have both a PS2 and a PS3 hooked up when the PS3 is made to play PS2 games. Well, the 60GB model is, anyway.

If I'd waited, though, that's exactly what I'd have to do. Because there are always gonna be PS2 games I want to play, just like there are still Atari 2600 games I want to play. Good games never stop being good, so I may as well always have a system hooked up to play them... but that doesn't mean I want like 60 different systems connected in my living room all the time.

Sounds to me you're a prime candidate for emulation!

But really since you're talking about getting a PS3, you must have a HDTV. Most HDTV's have plenty of inputs. And if you get a nice stand, you can easily keep 4 - 5 systems connected with no mess at the same time. As far as wires go, I guess you never had a high end stereo system. Hell, I have two power strips in my game room.
Oh, you can get wireless controllers for everything from last gen.

[Mendon]

Don't know if anyone else has read them, but I saw "RUMORS" on a couple of different websites that "SUPPOSEDLY" Sony will have two models of PS3's this holiday season:

1) 80gb system with no pack-in game at $499

2) 40gb system with no WiFi, card reader, etc etc (just the HD and Blu-ray) at $399 (one site even had the price at $349)

Supposedly, the 40gb system is manufactured and priced to compete with the 360 Premium and this time will come with component cables instead of AV cables.


If these rumors are true, sounds like Sony is right back where they were on PS3 launch day: two SKU's, with one SKU a full featured system and the other SKU a bare bones system. Only difference is $100 cheaper price tag.

I like the PS3 and don't regret purchasing mine one bit. But I sure wish Sony would make up their minds about what the spec's and price will be on the system they want to sell......sigh.....


Mendon

[Lord Helmet]

spacecadet, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:44 PM, said:

Does everybody else just have unlimited space in their house to have multiple consoles hooked up to their living room TV?

Not in my living room. I only keep three current gen consoles there (well, two current gen and the PS2, since I havn't gotten the PS3 yet). The rest of them are in the game room

Who says you have to have all of them hooked up at once anyway? Many of mine I use as "plug and play." For instance, anytime I want to play the Dreamcast, I just plug it into the front ports on my TV. The only consoles that stay hooked up are the ones I play the most (the three in the living room, and the 2600 and 5200 in the gameroom).

[Gregory DG]

This Christmas is not critical.

Guess they expect a pretty lousy Christmas if they're already spinning it...

Edited by Gregory DG, Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:05 PM.

[Lemmi]

Gregory DG, on Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:05 PM, said:

This Christmas is not critical.

Guess they expect a pretty lousy Christmas if they're already spinning it...

haha look at this, i got a chuckle out of this

Quote

"I see this more as kind of like a tsunami – it starts small and gathers speed, and eventually, after four or five years, it will start to take you over."

if it takes that long you guys are in serious trouble

[Artlover]

spacecadet, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:44 PM, said:

Does everybody else just have unlimited space in their house to have multiple consoles hooked up to their living room TV?

Well, I suppose if you live in a shoe box, you may have a point. But then, this problem wouldn't be limited to game consoles.

Can only have a radio or tv, not both. Can only have a foot stool or a dog, not both. But hey, if you train it right, you can get backwards foot stool compatabilty out of your dog.

[antron]

moycon, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:04 PM, said:

Unless you own 100% of the games made for a system why would care if the BC was 100% compatible anyways?

I only have 1 PS2 game, Gradius V. I got the 60GB model just the be sure that it would play that game perfectly.

MCHufnagel, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:44 PM, said:

But really since you're talking about getting a PS3, you must have a HDTV. Most HDTV's have plenty of inputs.

My HDTV only has 2 component hookups (like most). The XBOX and Wii take those. I am not hooking a PS2 up with s-video, when I could be upscaling to HDMI. Since it has got to be upscaled to the LCD anyway, I am sure the PS3 will do a better job.


And it's $100 cheaper! I am going to put a big ass hard drive in it later anyway.

[moycon]

antron, on Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:48 AM, said:

moycon, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:04 PM, said:

Unless you own 100% of the games made for a system why would care if the BC was 100% compatible anyways?

I only have 1 PS2 game, Gradius V. I got the 60GB model just the be sure that it would play that game perfectly.

So what you are saying is you bought a $500, state of the art game system based on the fact that it will play your 1 PS2 game perfectly?
Not exactly sure what I think of that. You are either A.) Very foolish B.) Not telling the truth and bought the 60 Gig PS3 for other reasons than what you replied to my original statement with or C.) just the hardest core Gradius V player of all time.

[Gabriel]

I don't even have a disc game for mine yet. Do I get an A?

[moycon]

Gabriel, on Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:03 PM, said:

I don't even have a disc game for mine yet. Do I get an A?

Neither do I...

But you or I also didn't state one of the main reasons we bought it was to play a PS2 game perfectly.
My advice to someone that wants to play one PS2 game perfectly is to just ask someone ahead of time.

Like I'm sure this antron dude would have NOT bought a PS3 if it didn't play Gradius V perfectly. Gimmi a break.

[antron]

moycon, on Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:59 PM, said:

antron, on Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:48 AM, said:

moycon, on Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:04 PM, said:

Unless you own 100% of the games made for a system why would care if the BC was 100% compatible anyways?

I only have 1 PS2 game, Gradius V. I got the 60GB model just the be sure that it would play that game perfectly.

So what you are saying is you bought a $500, state of the art game system based on the fact that it will play your 1 PS2 game perfectly?
Not exactly sure what I think of that. You are either A.) Very foolish B.) Not telling the truth and bought the 60 Gig PS3 for other reasons than what you replied to my original statement with or C.) just the hardest core Gradius V player of all time.

you have obviously never played Gradius V.
I am just saying it is worth more to me than a measly 20G extra disc space. I was going to wait until Xmas to get a PS3, but I was afraid all the ones with emotion chips would be gone.

Edited by antron, Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:40 PM.

[fdurso224]

Gregory DG, on Thu Jul 5, 2007 7:31 PM, said:

Yeah, but the iPhone is actually *USEFUL* for something.

(Besides, the high estimates are around 700,000.)

The 1st edition IPhone is a waste of money really. I would rather wait for the 3 or 4th edition.

Anthony...