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#1 joeybastard OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:16 AM

Recently in a box of VCS stuff given to me by a friend of my in-laws, there was an envelope that had two boards in it. The games are Demon Attack and Star Voyager. The guy who gave them to me said his parents had friends at Atari and he got these boards before the games came out. It doesn't make sense obviously since they are Imagic games but I'm guessing he's using Atari as generic for old video game company. The games seem to play just like the regular release so I'm thinking they are probably just pirates or not even that. Here's some pics, let me know what you think.

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:29 AM

In my un-expert opinion there bootlegs someone made.

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:40 AM

View PostProdos8, on Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:29 AM, said:

In my un-expert opinion there bootlegs someone made.

Yeah, that's what I think too but I know nothing about this end of things. Bootleg is a better word than pirate so I'm changing the title.

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:04 AM

I'd also guess that they're some kind of bootleg. I've never seen anything quite so odd though. Normally bootlegs of that period consisted of a cart with a ZIFF socket and some loose chips. Looks like someone went through the hassle of soldering it all to a board. Weird.

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:57 AM

That star voyager looks very well made in compairison to the demon attack. can you see any wire under the eprom?

Edited by Shawn Sr., Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:59 AM.


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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:39 PM

View PostTempest, on Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:04 AM, said:

I'd also guess that they're some kind of bootleg. I've never seen anything quite so odd though. Normally bootlegs of that period consisted of a cart with a ZIFF socket and some loose chips. Looks like someone went through the hassle of soldering it all to a board. Weird.
They're probably "bootleg" cartridges made by someone at Atari for their own personal use...this was fairly common back then and these kinds of things have turned up before.

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:56 PM

View PostShawn Sr., on Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM, said:

That star voyager looks very well made in compairison to the demon attack. can you see any wire under the eprom?

Nope, it's looks like a regular eprom soldered to the board.

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:39 PM

View Postjoeybastard, on Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:56 PM, said:

View PostShawn Sr., on Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM, said:

That star voyager looks very well made in compairison to the demon attack. can you see any wire under the eprom?

Nope, it's looks like a regular eprom soldered to the board.

I dont think that the star voyager chip is an eprom. The chip on the back of demon attack is probably a 7404 Hex inverter, like the ones used on 4K pixels past PCBs. My best guess is that the chip on the star voyager is just like a regular chip used on production games, but I have never seen one like that on a cartrige.

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Posted Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:00 PM

View PostWickeycolumbus, on Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:39 PM, said:

I dont think that the star voyager chip is an eprom. The chip on the back of demon attack is probably a 7404 Hex inverter, like the ones used on 4K pixels past PCBs. My best guess is that the chip on the star voyager is just like a regular chip used on production games, but I have never seen one like that on a cartrige.

You're probably right, I'm not knowledgeable in the correct terms for this stuff so I'm probably using the wrong word.

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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:04 PM

View PostWickeycolumbus, on Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:39 PM, said:

View Postjoeybastard, on Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:56 PM, said:

View PostShawn Sr., on Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:57 PM, said:

That star voyager looks very well made in compairison to the demon attack. can you see any wire under the eprom?

Nope, it's looks like a regular eprom soldered to the board.

I dont think that the star voyager chip is an eprom. The chip on the back of demon attack is probably a 7404 Hex inverter, like the ones used on 4K pixels past PCBs. My best guess is that the chip on the star voyager is just like a regular chip used on production games, but I have never seen one like that on a cartrige.
I have one just like that gold type chip but it was in an Omega Race CBS cart. Strange.




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