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[tebe]

tip animator v1.9 (all in one), create XEX file

new example:
tip_magician (all tip files, *.bat with syntax to fit in 64KB memory etc.)
tip_frog
tip_frog2

Attached Files

•  tip_animator_v1.9.zip   549.92K   93 downloads
•  tip_magician.zip   162.45K   122 downloads
•  tip_frog2.zip   231.01K   130 downloads
•  tip_frog.zip   193.1K   121 downloads

Edited by tebe, Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:58 AM.

[Allas]

Awesome work Tebe, congratulations!

Do you have future plans expansions for this product?

[Goochman]

Really amazing.

[miker]

Here's "Magician" animation that can be loaded on real machine (at least using QMEG's loader).

It was made by changing the batch file the following way:

tipanm.exe 1 12 onedic prg$0d80 dic$3e00

pause

Attached Files

•  tip_mag2.zip   39.47K   113 downloads

Edited by miker, Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:13 PM.

[Poison]

v1.9 is great !!! but I have one question. Is possible to make tip images in bath mode? (more images in one step). Because make conversion of 250pics by one pic in tip converter is for very long time:)

[Poison]

oh, how many pics can i use? I converted 29 and tip animator dont finish it to the xex file. works only 1 - 15. I want to convert one very nice and short PC game intro:)

[miker]

Try changing second parameter. Count all the phases and put as second value in batch file.

[tebe]

parameter ONEDIC is only for 64KB machine

try with:

tip_anm 1 250 max

[CharlieChaplin]

miker, on Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:11 AM, said:

Here's "Magician" animation that can be loaded on real machine (at least using QMEG's loader).

It was made by changing the batch file the following way:

tipanm.exe 1 12 onedic prg$0d80 dic$3e00

pause

Thanks Miker !
To make programs work on a real Atari (with standard OS) one MUST NOT use e.g. $0700-$09FF otherwise the program will not work with any DOS or Gamedos. That was the case with tip_magician...

Alas, there are some other tip animations posted here on AA that have the same problen and will not run on real machines: juggler.xex (one segment uses $0400-$3xxx), manga.xex (one segment uses $0400-$3xxx) and puppy.xex (one segment uses $0700-$3xxx). Thus I cannot run them on my real Atari. Can someone fix these three animations for me here... and then upload the fixed versions again ?!? (But since the source TIP pictures have not been posted, maybe only TeBe can do this?)

-Andreas Koch.

P.S.: Maybe TeBe could change Tip Animator in such a way, that memory locations which do not work on a real Atari XL/XE (e.g. $0700-$09FF and $D000-$D7FF) cannot be used/created in the XEX file or show at least a warning message ("Warning ! Output *.XEX file will not work on real Atari" or something like that)... just a thought...

[tebe]

TIP ANIMATOR V2.0

CharlieChaplin, on Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:13 PM, said:

P.S.: Maybe TeBe could change Tip Animator in such a way, that memory locations which do not work on a real Atari XL/XE (e.g. $0700-$09FF and $D000-$D7FF) cannot be used/created in the XEX file or show at least a warning message ("Warning ! Output *.XEX file will not work on real Atari" or something like that)... just a thought...

solution: exomizer

\example\juggler_64k_exomizer.xex ($2000-$BFFF)

Attached Files

•  tip_animator_v2.0.zip   1.09MB   101 downloads

[Poison]

when I try to animate first 52 jpg tip animator wrote me "tipanm.asx (127) error: $124A" what wrong ? this is in bat file "tipanm.exe 64 115 max" I have working version only to the frame 64 - 108. frame 109 doesnt work:( I want to upload my "anim in progress" I dont know why, but forum wrote me "upload failed, you are not permitted to upload this type of file" Whats wrong? its xex file with 183kb.

Edited by Poison, Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:04 AM.

[CharlieChaplin]

Hello Poison,
I guess you cannot upload *.XEX files here - try ZIPping the file and uploading should work...
-Andreas Koch.

[tebe]

Poison, on Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:06 PM, said:

when I try to animate first 52 jpg tip animator wrote me "tipanm.asx (127) error: $124A" what wrong ? this is in bat file "tipanm.exe 64 115 max" I have working version only to the frame 64 - 108. frame 109 doesnt work:( I want to upload my "anim in progress" I dont know why, but forum wrote me "upload failed, you are not permitted to upload this type of file" Whats wrong? its xex file with 183kb.

file ANM.DAT is too long, try "TIPANM FIRST LAST h64"


TIP ANIMATOR 2.1 with more detailed info

Attached Files

•  tipanm_v2.1.zip   268.83K   105 downloads

Edited by tebe, Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:52 PM.

[Poison]

thanx tebe its work!!! I have anim with 57 frames and 219kb, but I still cant upload my anim. xex, rar, zip or 7z I cant upload.

[miker]

Why you can't upload it? Zip files can be uploaded normally.

[Poison]

ok zip is ok:) so, here is beta version of mechwarrior 2 intro. its still in progress.

Attached Files

•  tipanm.zip   117.48K   115 downloads

[Poison]

next error "file anm.dat is too long $2DAF $EA4F".

[tebe]

add parametr PRG$0400

TIPANM FIRST LAST H64 PRG$0400

[Poison]

tipanm.asx (157) ERROR: file anm.dat is too long $11AF $CE4F

is tip animator limited by max file size? Its great util. but it would be nice when it can work on real atari with 512kb or 1MB ram . make 1mb long anim. isnt any problem:)

anim update, is possible to change anim speed? I reduce original movie speed from 19 fps on 5 fps in virtual dub and than export to jpgs, but tip_anim play more speed than 5fps. anim is too fast.

Attached Files

•  tipanm.zip   216.14K   102 downloads

[tebe]

Poison, on Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:38 AM, said:

tipanm.asx (157) ERROR: file anm.dat is too long $11AF $CE4F

is tip animator limited by max file size? Its great util. but it would be nice when it can work on real atari with 512kb or 1MB ram . make 1mb long anim. isnt any problem:)

ANM.DAT is limited by max file size, is loaded in to standard RAM (PRG$0400 is the lowest value, works with emul but not on real machine)

Poison, on Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:38 AM, said:

anim update, is possible to change anim speed? I reduce original movie speed from 19 fps on 5 fps in virtual dub and than export to jpgs, but tip_anim play more speed than 5fps. anim is too fast.

add parameter DELAY5

p.s.
JPG is not good choice, convert MPG, AVI is not good choice

TIP ANIMATOR need frames with small differences (slow motion), not with full motion frames

[CharlieChaplin]

tebe, on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:12 PM, said:

p.s.
JPG is not good choice, convert MPG, AVI is not good choice

TIP ANIMATOR need frames with small differences (slow motion), not with full motion frames

Hmm,
this behaviour reminds me of Motion JPEG (if I remember correctly), which is another (in)famous movie compression format besides MPEG. But in Motion JPEG the frames must not have too many (or too big) differences, otherwise the movie-framerate will slow down and flicker will occcur. Its nice to see, that Atari 8Bit has the same possibilities and the same problems as nowadays technology...

Well, having big animations for the A8 is nice, but only in the emu they will load very fast. Afaik, TIP animator does not support harddisks yet (not that I use A8 harddisks, but...) and loading 320k-1024k animations from an A8 floppy drive takes quite a long time, much longer than the animation sequence you see. Besides, some animations (e.g. Transcendental) will not fit on a 360k 5,25" floppy drive, since they are unpacked. I tried packing with DJ-Packer but after four or five hours the packing still was not finished... argghh...

Is there a special packing program for the PC that lets you pack A8 files more quickly - and that automatically adds a depacking routine for the A8 (like e.g. DJ-Packer does)... ?!? It would be nice to have something like a inflate/deflate routine (e.g. by FoX/Taquart) as part of Tip animator to pack big animations (but with a fixed auto-depack routine, which will depack after the whole animation has been loaded into XRAM)...

-Andreas Koch.

P.S.: With the help of DJ-Packer I could downsize the length of Bombjack-Beta-Version from more than 1400 DD-sectors to just 337 DD-sectors... (the program still requires 320k RAM, but now loading from a floppy drive is much faster/shorter)...

[Heaven/TQA]

Andreas, does not exomizer on pc doing this for you?

[CharlieChaplin]

Heaven/TQA, on Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:59 PM, said:

Andreas, does not exomizer on pc doing this for you?

Well,
thanks for the tip, I just downloaded this program and will test it... (but it will take a while)... while reading the homepage of Exomizer, I noticed that I did not understand very well how the program works, hopefully this gets more clear, when I use the program... -Andreas Koch.

[tebe]

exomizer

mads\examples\compression\exomizer\pc

exomizer sfx sys -t 168 -Di_ram_enter=0xff -Di_ram_exit=0xff -Di_table_addr=0xbc40 -n %1.obx -o %1.xex

[tebe]

Tip Animator v2.3

new parameter ONEDIC+EXO -> compress with Exomizer

http://madteam.atari...tki/tipanm23.7z