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#1 Retrofan OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:58 AM

Nukey Shay was so friendly to make a PAL60 version of Track & Field. Thanx a lot. Are there some other GOOD NTSC games without a PAL version?

I have some on my list but I don't know exactly if they have a PAL (or PAL60) version:

Mr. Do!'s Castle, Montezuma's Revenge, Gravitar and Turmoil.

If not, is someone (Nukey Shay? ;) ) able and interested in hack one (or more) of them and make a PAL60 version?

#2 Nukey Shay ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:42 AM

I suppose a good starting place would be the F# bankswitch conversions of Mr. Do!'s Castle and Montezuma's Revenge (i.e. so the result is playable on actual hardware). Both of those use E0 bankswitching. The conversion for M.D.C. was done by batari here. I imagine that he's got a PAL build someplace...or at least, his converted disassembly to make it possible in minutes. Shoot him a PM.

I dunno where M.R.'s converted disassembly is located (or who did it)...probably on the StellaList.

Not really worth hacking 'em if they are only playable in emu otherwise :(


I can look at the other 2, tho.

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Posted Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:23 AM

Turmoil added to the Supercharger Conversion thread:

http://www.atariage....a...t&id=108249

Not much I can do about the missing colors on the splash screen, tho. These will show up as white/shades of grey as the gradients scroll. Gameplay looks OK.

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Posted Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:25 PM

Having a bit of trouble with Gravitar...
The score and player ship colors appear to be aquired by using static EOR values (#$3C and #$93) against game control bits from ram location $86. Altering them could (for example) cause the score to flash inappropriately, etc. I've left them unaltered. This affects the startup logo as well...but other game colors appear to be unaffected.

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Posted Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:27 PM

View PostNukey Shay, on Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:23 PM, said:

Turmoil added to the Supercharger Conversion thread:

lol - I'm sorry, not to de-rail this thread, but I found the above statement funny. Kind of like you went in, started a major flame war, and left. :)

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Posted Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:01 PM

@Nukey Shay: Thank you for your work. I now have found Montezuma's Revenge PAL F6 in one of your postet threads. Mr. Do!'s Castle is buggy but I'll pm batari and ask him if there is a newer version. But what is the Turmoil PAL60 supercharger (4K) version from your link? Is it only for supercharger systems and not for normal eprom carts?

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Posted Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:18 PM

Turmoil is only 4k...so I figured as long as I was converting it for PAL, I might as well free the four (4!) bytes necessary for unmodded-Supercharger compatability too. This was accomplished by swapping LFF84, LFFB9, LFFC2, LFFCB (46 bytes, eliminating the need for a JMP at the end of LFF84) with LFBBF (42 bytes). It's playable no matter how you choose to use it 8)

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Posted Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:38 AM

cool

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Posted Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:33 PM

@Nukey Shay: Your Gravitar PAL60 version is marked as WIP. Will there be a final version or is it ok as it is?

And batari wrote to me, that there is no working bankswitch mod version of Mr. Do!'s Castle. :(

#10 Nukey Shay ONLINE  

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Posted Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:35 PM

The reason it's marked as WIP is because I haven't figured out a way of correcting the ship and score/logo colors (as explained above). The disassembly is posted if anybody wants to give it a shot. The incorrect colors for these will not affect gameplay. I have a suspicion that they were not so much "chosen" as "conveniently available"...so getting matching PAL colors might be difficult.

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Posted Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:25 AM

View PostNukey Shay, on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:35 AM, said:

The reason it's marked as WIP is because I haven't figured out a way of correcting the ship and score/logo colors (as explained above).
Thank you. I only wanted to know, if that are the only issues of the WIP status.

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Posted Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:58 PM

Another Game that I want to have in PAL is Crackpots. There are two roms around the net, but the first have complete different graphics (not very nice) and the second doesn't have PAL colors.

#13 Nukey Shay ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:43 AM

A PAL60 conversion was posted in the Supercharger thread. The original game uses PAL-incompatable colors tho, so I had to cheat a little. A little animation and a flashing "game over" were also added.

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Posted Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:47 AM

Very cool, thank you!




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