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Posted Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:36 AM

Wow, I just ran through all the binaries in succession. I was a huge fan of Ballblazer on the Atari 8-bit and played it all the time with friends. It's amazing to see this come to life on the 2600! The scrolling playfield may be lower resolution than the 5200/8-bit versions, but it "feels" just right! Once you have all the boundaries in place and can properly "bounce" off them, it'll feel even more like the original game. Can't wait to see two playfields in action!!

Keep up the great work! :)

..Al

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Posted Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:24 AM

View PostAlbert, on Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:36 PM, said:

Wow, I just ran through all the binaries in succession. I was a huge fan of Ballblazer on the Atari 8-bit and played it all the time with friends. It's amazing to see this come to life on the 2600! The scrolling playfield may lower resolution than the 5200/8-bit versions, but it "feels" just right! Once you have all the boundaries in place and can properly "bounce" off them, it'll feel even more like the original game. Can't wait to see two playfields in action!!

Keep up the great work! :)

..Al
Wow that's just great! I hope I can keep up to the expectations :)

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Posted Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:45 PM

I've been lurking in this thread since it started. This is too kick ass! You're on fire man! Keep it up!

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Posted Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:04 PM

View Postroland p, on Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:24 PM, said:

Wow that's just great! I hope I can keep up to the expectations :)
You've done great so far - I registered here just to congratulate you! :D

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Posted Fri Oct 3, 2008 4:22 AM

View PostElB, on Fri Oct 3, 2008 6:04 AM, said:

View Postroland p, on Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:24 PM, said:

Wow that's just great! I hope I can keep up to the expectations :)
You've done great so far - I registered here just to congratulate you! :D
That's cool! thank you!

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Posted Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:46 AM

I'm working on the drones right now. I managed to get them 16 pixels wide! So I can reasamble the original drones pretty close. I first though about really cool scaling routines, but then I realised that I first need to display something and than work further on :). The sprite in the sky is displayed in a completely different way than the part in the checkerboard, but you won't notice.

So here it is, just a really huge drone:

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Posted Fri Oct 3, 2008 10:05 AM

*falls out of chair*

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Posted Fri Oct 3, 2008 2:03 PM

This is simply amazing, the animation is so smooth...

Regards,
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Posted Fri Oct 3, 2008 5:01 PM

Is there any way to do some gradient stuff at the horizon line? This would really help the sky, for instance, but also to kind of "haze" out the checkerboard.

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Posted Fri Oct 3, 2008 6:41 PM

zomfg

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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:18 AM

View Postmos6507, on Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:01 AM, said:

Is there any way to do some gradient stuff at the horizon line? This would really help the sky, for instance, but also to kind of "haze" out the checkerboard.
The previous versions had gradient in the sky, but I remove it, because I was mainly focused getting the sprites on screen, so when that's finished, I will put it back in (assuming I've enough cycles left). Gradient in the checkerboard is also possible, but I won't do it yet, because it costs precious cycles, setting up the colors for the tiles already takes 963 cycles, I first have to speed it up.

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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:23 AM

Holy crap! That is amazing! :-o

That's one of the things I love about AA. People very often suggest what appear to be (or in many cases are) patently ludricrous ideas, and every once in a while - somebody brings them to life. :cool:

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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:30 AM

View Postremowilliams, on Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:23 AM, said:

Holy crap! That is amazing! :-o

That's one of the things I love about AA. People very often suggest what appear to be (or in many cases are) patently ludricrous ideas, and every once in a while - somebody brings them to life. :cool:
Yeah, aren't you glad the creator of this thread wasn't sent to the To All Non-Programmer Idea Peddlers thread? "If you think Ballblazer might be is possible, make it yourself or shut up." :D

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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:10 AM

Oh. My. God.

Now that is something I never thought I'd see on a VCS. Amazing!

#140  

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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:26 AM

I've been following this - pretty impressive.

I take it doing it as dual window won't be any problem?

Also - what proportion horizontally does the viewport occupy? It's kinda hard to tell with Stella on my widescreen monitor what's screen and what would be invisible on a TV.

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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:45 AM

View PostRybags, on Sat Oct 4, 2008 10:26 AM, said:

I take it doing it as dual window won't be any problem?
I hope so :D

View PostRybags, on Sat Oct 4, 2008 10:26 AM, said:

Also - what proportion horizontally does the viewport occupy? It's kinda hard to tell with Stella on my widescreen monitor what's screen and what would be invisible on a TV.
There is a black border left and right consisting of 5 playfield pixels, so it's a bit smaller than other games. You can toggle it in Stella with alt-n.

Edited by roland p, Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:45 AM.


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Posted Sat Oct 4, 2008 10:57 AM

Nicely done!

This remains one of my favorite games. Your efforts are brilliant. Hope you are feeling good, because you really should be.

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Posted Sun Oct 5, 2008 1:40 PM

View PostRandom Terrain, on Sat Oct 4, 2008 3:30 AM, said:

View Postremowilliams, on Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:23 AM, said:

Holy crap! That is amazing! :-o

That's one of the things I love about AA. People very often suggest what appear to be (or in many cases are) patently ludricrous ideas, and every once in a while - somebody brings them to life. :cool:
Yeah, aren't you glad the creator of this thread wasn't sent to the To All Non-Programmer Idea Peddlers thread? "If you think Ballblazer might be is possible, make it yourself or shut up." :D
I'll co-sign that!

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Posted Mon Oct 6, 2008 7:35 AM

Another update.

I've been optimizing the code. The routine for calculation of horizontal movement is now improved and inculded in the checkerboard kernel instead of in the VBLANK.

This means I am able to create 2 playfields!

You can use cursor to move upper ship and Y,G,H,J to move lower ship. Right now, both ships hover in parallel universums which means they can't see each other :D

There are still some optimisations to be done, between the upper and the lower ship, lot's of calculations are done, so no time to display scores yet.

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Posted Mon Oct 6, 2008 7:40 AM

View Postroland p, on Mon Oct 6, 2008 8:35 AM, said:

Another update.

I've been optimizing the code. The routine for calculation of horizontal movement is now improved and inculded in the checkerboard kernel instead of in the VBLANK.

This means I am able to create 2 playfields!
That's fantastic! :D

..Al

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Posted Mon Oct 6, 2008 7:41 AM

I knew you could do it.

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Posted Mon Oct 6, 2008 7:54 AM

All this and it's only 4k so far? Pretty cool! Can't wait to see what comes of this!

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Posted Mon Oct 6, 2008 8:04 AM

View PostShawn Sr., on Mon Oct 6, 2008 3:54 PM, said:

All this and it's only 4k so far? Pretty cool! Can't wait to see what comes of this!
Yep, 1004 bytes ROM and 17 bytes of RAM left so far.

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Posted Mon Oct 6, 2008 9:18 AM

:thumbsup: Very impressive!

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Posted Mon Oct 6, 2008 9:46 AM

View Postroland p, on Mon Oct 6, 2008 3:04 PM, said:

View PostShawn Sr., on Mon Oct 6, 2008 3:54 PM, said:

All this and it's only 4k so far? Pretty cool! Can't wait to see what comes of this!
Yep, 1004 bytes ROM and 17 bytes of RAM left so far.

That's not much RAM left for the actual game... the need to optimise somewhere or can I smell a superchip around the corner (I wouldn't blame ya here!)?





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