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[trub]

_The Doctor__, on Sun Jan 4, 2009 11:26 AM, said:

Can the new SDX 4.42 handle pokey divisor 0X00 for SIO? 4.41 could not.

No, the highest recommended rate is 4, although 3 sometimes works. The SIO routines have to be flexible enough to handle different types of high-speed modes (like indus), so we couldn't really go any further.

_The Doctor__ said:

Also is it possible the offending area of the cartridge be skipped to allow rtime 8 to load? rtime is not really a cartridge device the way it is accessed and might be able to still be accessed via timing or filter?

An access to date/time R-Time8 registers, makes MF8 switch to an unknown bank, what SDX doesn't expect (this is due to a partial decoding logic of MF8). It could be possibly handled in some tricky way, but I have no hardware to play with.

[JR>]

Can anyone tell me how to get SpartaDOS X 4.42 (1MP Maxflash version), QMEG+OS 4.04 and an ICD MIO to work together. I can get any combination of two of these working fine, but with all three together I can never get it to boot into spartados X. It always tries to boot to D1: instead. If I try to jump to the cart from the QMEG menu I get garbage or a blank screen with the cursor in the upper left and it locks up.

[_The Doctor__]

What might you need from qmeg that sparta does not have? Just curious.

did you try USE OSRAM BANKED and DEVICE SPARTA OSRAM in the config.sys on D1:
the qmeg io routines might be conflicting between qmeg and sparta as well. I know the sio portion has changed in 4.42 so you may need an expert on what to do with that as I do not use qmeg 4.04

JR>, on Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:59 PM, said:

Can anyone tell me how to get SpartaDOS X 4.42 (1MP Maxflash version), QMEG+OS 4.04 and an ICD MIO to work together. I can get any combination of two of these working fine, but with all three together I can never get it to boot into spartados X. It always tries to boot to D1: instead. If I try to jump to the cart from the QMEG menu I get garbage or a blank screen with the cursor in the upper left and it locks up.

Edited by _The Doctor__, Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:45 PM.

[JR>]

_The Doctor__, on Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:36 PM, said:

What might you need from qmeg that sparta does not have? Just curious.

I don't really 'need' anything from it, but it does have a lot of nice features. I was hoping to save some memory by using
DEVICE SIO /A
and using QMEG's built in hi speed SIO routines.

[trub]

You should use INIDOS.SYS if you want to boot SDX from QMEG.
See SDX manual for details how to setup INIDOS.SYS.

[JR>]

trub, on Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:38 PM, said:

You should use INIDOS.SYS if you want to boot SDX from QMEG.
See SDX manual for details how to setup INIDOS.SYS.

Thanks trub! That's what I was missing. Works great....

[_The Doctor__]

I should have read that better it locked after You tried to jump to the cartridge not all on it's own... so it was not loading the cartridge at all. So inidos turns sparta cart back on. cart loads then your config.sys loads.
using that, did you still device sio /a?
maybe post a sample config.sys after your sure it is all the way you wanted it to be.

[dwhyte]

Stephen, on Sat Jan 3, 2009 11:37 PM, said:

Typing "CAR:RTIME8.SYS" caused the machine to lock up and hitting reset made it boot to disk (ignoring the cart and not booting DOS). Typing TIME or DATE does not have the correct info.

putting the line DEVICE RTIME8 in your CONFIG.SYS file rather than trying to run the driver from the command line might be a better option...

[_The Doctor__]

The 4.42 maxflash 1meg image now has the rtime8 back in it's default config so just reflash it with the latest version and it won't be an issue.

Stephen, on Sun Jan 4, 2009 1:37 AM, said:

Guys, I just burned the 8Mb Atarimax flash version of 4.42. It is not recognizing my R-Time 8 clone (got it from Sunmark - final run). It works just fine with 4.41 on my 1Mb flash. Can anybody out there confirm this for me?

Typing "CAR:RTIME8.SYS" caused the machine to lock up and hitting reset made it boot to disk (ignoring the cart and not booting DOS). Typing TIME or DATE does not have the correct info.

I should clarify - I have a 320KB 130XE and I am using an original ICD ECI to PBI extender (for hooking up an MIO to the 130XE). I am also running a 32-in-1 OS with the APE WARP+ OS set as default. Again, everything works fine with my 4.41 cart.

Stephen Anderson

Edited by _The Doctor__, Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:05 AM.

[JR>]

_The Doctor__, on Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:34 AM, said:

I should have read that better it locked after You tried to jump to the cartridge not all on it's own... so it was not loading the cartridge at all. So inidos turns sparta cart back on. cart loads then your config.sys loads.
using that, did you still device sio /a?
maybe post a sample config.sys after your sure it is all the way you wanted it to be.

Yes, using QMEG with SIO /A I'm still getting the hi-speed SIO from the QMEG code and save the memory that the SDX routines would use. You probably lose some of the SDX extras like the MAP command, but QMEG and the MIO give me plenty of flexibility so I don't think I'll miss that.

[GoodByteXL]

Stephen, on Sun Jan 4, 2009 1:32 AM, said:

Just gotta say version 4.42 kicks ass on the 8Mb Flashcart. I love the fact that all the MAN files are included. I've been sending some of the MAN files to my 24-pin Panasonic They look great using the CON80 driver too.

Stephen Anderson

Shall I develop some additional reference cards?

[Larry]

GoodByteXL, on Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:57 PM, said:

Shall I develop some additional reference cards?

That would be very useful!

-Larry

[MrFish]

EDIT: Post removed by request.

Edited by MrFish, Thu Feb 5, 2009 12:08 AM.

[dwhyte]

For those having trouble getting 4.42 working in an emulator you can download the .car file I've made for emulator usage here.

[flashjazzcat]

dwhyte, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:34 AM, said:

For those having trouble getting 4.42 working in an emulator you can download the .car file I've made for emulator usage here.

Can you explain how you converted it?

[bf2k+]

flashjazzcat, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:40 AM, said:

dwhyte, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:34 AM, said:

For those having trouble getting 4.42 working in an emulator you can download the .car file I've made for emulator usage here.

Can you explain how you converted it?

I'd like to have one that works in a800winplus 3.1

[rdea6]

dwhyte, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:34 AM, said:

For those having trouble getting 4.42 working in an emulator you can download the .car file I've made for emulator usage here.

This can also be done to the 8mb maxflash cartridge then you have manpath on CAR:

Attachment is not a .car file just a .bin but can be converted .car

[Allan]

It would be nice if the emulators would emulate the R-time-8 cart.

Allan

[bf2k+]

Allan, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:10 PM, said:

It would be nice if the emulators would emulate the R-time-8 cart.

Allan

a800winplus has r-time 8 support. The Z handler works with it.

[dwhyte]

bf2k+, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:47 AM, said:

I'd like to have one that works in a800winplus 3.1

Isn't a800Win+3.1 based upon an older version of atari800? Like 1.x.x? If that's the case then you're out of luck bf2k+... Sorry... 4.42 is a 128kb image...

Edited by dwhyte, Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:29 PM.

[GoodByteXL]

MrFish, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:39 AM, said:

Completely bookmarked: SpartaDO...2_Manual.zip

Hm, interesting, did you use Acrobat Professional or something like that?

BTW, whom did you ask for mirroring ?

[flashjazzcat]

Just found a bug in the MENU program (under emulation); if you view a file and press break before it's finished, the static parts of the menu display aren't redrawn (just the scrolling lists).

[GoodByteXL]

dwhyte, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:34 AM, said:

For those having trouble getting 4.42 working in an emulator you can download the .car file I've made for emulator usage here.

From Thu Jan 29, 5:34 AM:

For those having trouble getting 4.42 working in an emulator you can download the .car file I've made for emulator usage here.

GoodByteXL, on Mon Feb 2, 2009 11:47 AM, said:

MrFish, on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:39 AM, said:

Completely bookmarked: SpartaDO...2_Manual.zip

Hm, interesting, did you use Acrobat Professional or something like that?

BTW, whom did you ask for mirroring ?

Hm,

as expected no reaction ...

To say it very plain - it is a question of manners. Some people have, some don't have ...

I would expect to get contacted before mixing up a living project I am working on, which took a lot of efforts and especially in programming aspects a lot of brainworks.

I have a very little part in SpartaDOS X 4.42, but I am definitely disappointed by people who do not show a minimum of respect, like e.g. "Mr Fish" or "dwhyte".

This is my personal remark and may or may not apply to all involved in SDX.

Edited by GoodByteXL, Tue Feb 3, 2009 4:54 AM.

[dwhyte]

GoodByteXL, on Tue Feb 3, 2009 3:44 AM, said:

I have a very little part in SpartaDOS X 4.42, but I am definitely disappointed by people who do not show a minimum of respect, like e.g. "Mr Fish" or "dwhyte".

I'm very sorry to have offended you. I'm not sure exactly what I did. If by taking something that is freely available for anyone to download and not change it in any way (other than to make it work in an emulator by using a specific cartridge type), showed "minimal lack of respect" on my part, then I am truly sorry. I never modified any code whatsoever. It's a 1MB Maxflash cartridge image flashed with the .ATR provided from the site. For the future, may I recommend a disclaimer be placed alongside the download to let us know just what exactly we have the rights to do with the product you worked on, in a small capacity, that was released freely into the wilds of the intersurf...

I guess the days of helping fellow Atarians are slowly slipping away... And that is something I'm disappointed with..

EDIT:I've deleted the .car file that bothered you off of my AtariAge attachments. I take it rdea6 went through all the proper channels...

Edited by dwhyte, Tue Feb 3, 2009 6:20 AM.

[dwhyte]

I also forgot to mention (and because I'm out of time for edits on the last post), that no sarcasm should be interpreted from that last post. My apology is genuine. If there is a "next time," I will for sure ask for permission to do something like that before I increase the user base of a new SpartaDOS-X release by 30 or so people...

Edited by dwhyte, Tue Feb 3, 2009 6:47 AM.