kevincal Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) Ya, I'm a shameless self-promoter. Honestly, I just want some feedback on them. Comments, favorites etc.. Anything except criticizing me for my ghetto recording method! SuperCross 3D - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaun0ZAriVQ&fmt=18 Trevor McFur - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HroaCi4I124&fmt=18 RayMan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ye7M4xaCNo&fmt=18 Atari Karts - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7VfJSPT3sw&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLR5x7fZe8U&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiVDR3P8Ox0&fmt=18 Super BurnOut - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhtN213Pipc&fmt=18 Iron Soldier - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9_h3TL25yc&fmt=18 CyberMorph - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9csM8iYkIA&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIR73fhsz24&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa4Q8eyBo28&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY6x4cb4Kwo&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP9XdmOXft4&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGvpQDB0I5k&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmSRiMumaqw&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 9 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN77p4Dbmys&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 10 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eibC-UGy4_Q&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 11 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TheCOeXcdM&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 12 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eX8JKsXLKU&fmt=18 Jeff Minter Jag Demo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2T1fkntAIc&fmt=18 Jeff Minter Flying Robots - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGxEc5sqtD0&fmt=18 SeaPlane Demo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8_uSbJeVdk&fmt=18 Jag Asteroids - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIy2CD2tHbM&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 13 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYqLhX4w6Y4&fmt=18 Virtual Light Machine 14 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIuoRJqyDEc&fmt=18 Myst - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybMueOHNy4Y&fmt=18 Native - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2if-Jcdi-1Q&fmt=18 And non Jaguar related, but cool nontheless. Amp from MTV circa 1997. It was a 1 hour show devoted to techno music and trippy visuals. Quite reminiscint of the Jag CD's Virtual Light Machine. This is the first of 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSePSjcEC4&fmt=18 Edited July 4, 2009 by kevincal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) Wow, some idiot went and gave all of these videos 1 star. Some people these days... Edited July 4, 2009 by kevincal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kZa- Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Ah, nice, there are some things I have never seen before here & it was an easy way to see them, cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I'm sorry, but between the ghosting, the room reflections, the moire patterns, the muddy audio, and the occasional camera bouncing, I'm finding these videos pretty well unwatchable. Oh... and hearing you say "SHIT!" on the Rayman video... classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brojamfootball Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Very enlightening! Thank you for taking the time to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Okay, what the heck is Native and where do I buy it? AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) Ah, nice, there are some things I have never seen before here & it was an easy way to see them, cheers! Thank you. I'm sorry, but between the ghosting, the room reflections, the moire patterns, the muddy audio, and the occasional camera bouncing, I'm finding these videos pretty well unwatchable. Oh... and hearing you say "SHIT!" on the Rayman video... classy. Hey, I did the best I could with the equipment I have! I have no money to invest in capture cards and all that jazz. "pretty well unwatchable"? Ya...to an extremely picky & anal person... Wow, what are you, 5 years old? Adults can't say SHIT? Freedom of speech!? Are you the one who went on a 1 star rating spree with my videos?! Very enlightening! Thank you for taking the time to do that. Thank you. It was my pleasure. Okay, what the heck is Native and where do I buy it? AX You can actually burn yourself a free copy from the internet, as it is freeware. I had a buddy at Jaguar Sector II burn me some freeware demo's etc. and payed him for shipping. Native is a 2d side scrolling shooter that is incomplete. So it's in demo form basically. Looks awesome though doesn't it? Edited July 5, 2009 by kevincal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I found that the videos, while not perfect, are readily watchable and give viewers without that game a chance to see what it's like. I guess some people just enjoy being needlessly negative and unhelpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 I agree with that sentiment ls650... Thanks to everyone who liked my videos and had KIND words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I would have liked to have heard the game audio instead of the whirring of the camcorder motors & various controller mechanisms. Let me be frank with you. Gameplay videos that consist of putting a camcorder in front of a TV will come out terrible, in video AND audio. The gameplay videos I did were with a freakin' 50 dollar TV card. That's probably less than the cost of a few Jag games. It's by no means professional equipment, but it can do composite or S-video capture. Or just use coaxial. Direct audio capture is a piece of cake. Hey, if Jaguar is nothing but the best, why not capture it with something equally as good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) $50 is a lot of money to me right now... Jaguar isn't nothing but the best.. There is good and bad about it. Let me be honest. My videos didn't come out "terrible". You want to see terrible? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egsayghzg There are a lot more videos like that where people don't even care about setting the camera up properly (like I did) or having the sound at a good level even with some bass (like I did). I'm getting tired of people giving my videos 1 star and calling them terrible.. They really aren't that bad. Look at some of the other comments people made saying they liked my videos. I'm not just saying my videos aren't that bad because I made them, they REALLY AREN'T THAT BAD!!! Could be better (with a capture card OBVIOUSLY), of course, could be a lot worse? YEP. Edited July 6, 2009 by kevincal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I agree with s1500. Though I did find the videos useful to some extend I think that with a minimum cost of equipment, such as a 20-30 euro tv card you can do much better. I've taken most of my falcon videos (but one) with such a cheapo tv card and even though the ST and Falcon, by not outputing proper PAL/NTSC signal make the job an awful lot more difficult I think that they are watchable. And btw, I personally find comments that point out errors and offer solutions much more useful than a "you rule" comment. You can't improve if that's all you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) You know what the hilarious thing is? Some of my videos came out BETTER than some videos taken with your godly "capture card". Take for instance my VLM videos... Those came out especially good imo. Compare the quality of my VLM video compared to a capture card VLM video... My video = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLR5x7fZe8U&fmt=18 Capture Card = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiuYa6vzsiY&fmt=18 Ok, I give that the sound is better with the capture card (crisper quality with the capture card, but infact my sound has more intensity...), but look how much more blurry the capture card image is than mine... HMM ... I made no errors. I did the best job possible recording in the way I did. A big "DUH" that videos taken with a capture card SHOULD turn out better. But capture cards aren't cheap and I can't afford one. It's as simple as that. Not to mention if I ever did get one, I'd surely run into troubles getting it to work properly... People are pointing out the obvious AND EXAGGERATING about how bad the videos are. Plain and simple. "OMG, he's using a camcorder OMG I can hear the minute noise it makes when the game isn't making any noise OMG it's the end of the freaking world. OMG I see glare on 1/100th of the tv OMG the sound isn't perfect". The sad fact is, people these days like to criticize anyone for anything to somehow make themselves feel above another person. You are wrong when you claim people are trying to help me by giving my videos 1 star and stating the obvious "get a capture card blah blah" Infact some are going so far as to insult my intelligence by assuming I don't even know about capture cards.. Of course I do. I mean, damn people, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything. It boils down to this. You who criticize me and others without thinking first. You need to assume the person did the best job they could with the tools they had. And also realize people are struggling these days and can't afford much. Instead of shooting people and their work down. I spent a good amount of time making these videos for the sole purpose of others enjoyment. See where I'm coming from? Edited July 6, 2009 by kevincal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Oh and BY THE WAY. So far in this thread. FOUR people liked my videos, while THREE of you didn't. So HAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Hey, I think that it was a pretty good job with the equipment available. But when you release something you can't expect it to go devoid of criticism. And fyi the person most dissatisfied with the quality of my videos is myself. That doesn't stop me from releasing and neither should it stop you. I really don't get the if you've got nothing nice to say, say nothing mentallity. It's not an attack on you personally (I don't know you to attack you and nor do I care to do so) or your work. They are just comments. Even the 1 star scores mean that one person at least hated your videos. Why is that bad? Noone knows how many people hated my videos but I imagine they are many. So.. I should take those opinions into consideration and improve the quality the next time. And btw, if people weren't interested in what you were doing then they wouldn't comment at all 4-3 huh? Actually 4-1-2 since I didn't say I don't like your videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I'm sorry, but between the ghosting, the room reflections, the moire patterns, the muddy audio, and the occasional camera bouncing, I'm finding these videos pretty well unwatchable. Oh... and hearing you say "SHIT!" on the Rayman video... classy. I see someone had a miserable 4th of July weekend, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 AWESOME VIDEOS BUDDY! JAGUAR RULES!! MWAHAHAHA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Hey, I think that it was a pretty good job with the equipment available. But when you release something you can't expect it to go devoid of criticism. And fyi the person most dissatisfied with the quality of my videos is myself. That doesn't stop me from releasing and neither should it stop you. I really don't get the if you've got nothing nice to say, say nothing mentallity. It's not an attack on you personally (I don't know you to attack you and nor do I care to do so) or your work. They are just comments.Even the 1 star scores mean that one person at least hated your videos. Why is that bad? Noone knows how many people hated my videos but I imagine they are many. So.. I should take those opinions into consideration and improve the quality the next time. And btw, if people weren't interested in what you were doing then they wouldn't comment at all 4-3 huh? Actually 4-1-2 since I didn't say I don't like your videos Ya, but here's the point. Guess what I asked in my original post? "Ya, I'm a shameless self-promoter. Honestly, I just want some feedback on them. Comments, favorites etc.. Anything except criticizing me for my ghetto recording method!" So, I did ask. Oh well. Oh and someone didn't give all my Jag videos 1 star because they hated them. They gave them 1 star because they hate ME. I guarantee they didn't watch any of my videos for more than 30 seconds. They probably watched one video for 30 seconds, and then decided to be an asshole and click on the rest of my videos as fast as they could and rate them all 1 star. I'm sorry, but between the ghosting, the room reflections, the moire patterns, the muddy audio, and the occasional camera bouncing, I'm finding these videos pretty well unwatchable. Oh... and hearing you say "SHIT!" on the Rayman video... classy. I see someone had a miserable 4th of July weekend, huh? LOL, you nailed it. AWESOME VIDEOS BUDDY! JAGUAR RULES!! MWAHAHAHA! Edited July 6, 2009 by kevincal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcastrip Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 The sad fact is, people these days like to criticize anyone for anything Welcome to teh internets! For what its worth, I really enjoyed watching these Youtube videos you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 "Ya, I'm a shameless self-promoter. Honestly, I just want some feedback on them. Comments, favorites etc.. Anything except criticizing me for my ghetto recording method!" I think there was an attempt to offer some constructive criticism. The problem is despite what your limitations may be, you are communicating with these in a solely audio/visual format. And you are also trying to (ostensibly) represent the Jag in a positive light. So again despite your limitations - having videos that have some severe video distortion or poor audio in them is not the best way to do so, no matter what your best intentions are. This isn't an attack, it's simply a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Atari Jaguar videos: Serious business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) "Ya, I'm a shameless self-promoter. Honestly, I just want some feedback on them. Comments, favorites etc.. Anything except criticizing me for my ghetto recording method!" I think there was an attempt to offer some constructive criticism. The problem is despite what your limitations may be, you are communicating with these in a solely audio/visual format. And you are also trying to (ostensibly) represent the Jag in a positive light. So again despite your limitations - having videos that have some severe video distortion or poor audio in them is not the best way to do so, no matter what your best intentions are. This isn't an attack, it's simply a fact. Blah blah blah. Which one looks better!?!?!?!?! Dude, my videos are not freaking that bad... My video = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLR5x7fZe8U&fmt=18 Capture Card = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiuYa6vzsiY&fmt=18 You say "SEVERE video distortion and POOR audio." That's just straight up bullshit. And it is an attack. My videos have slight to at worst moderate, but not SEVERE video distortion and the audio is not poor... Infact the audio in the capture card video above has NO bass and sounds distant compared to my ROCKIN' (bass) / SLIGHTLY distorted audio in the vid above... Mine looks better. FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited July 6, 2009 by kevincal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Zylobane is just sad because he only has a 3.5" floppy. Ignore him. Us men with real HARD DRIVES have better things to do than look for the flaws in life. Trust me, the script of life is poorly written, and the acting is even worse. Now, as for youtube videos... if you are doing apples to apples, this is typical youtube fare. Come on guys he isn't a pro. I kind of like to hear the klicking and button pushing, but would like game sound. Only watched the one video though. Maybe Native as no sound? PS how about a link for the lazy on that Native download? AX Edited July 6, 2009 by the.golden.ax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Yup, no sounds in Native. I would get you the link for the Native download if I knew where it was or even if it's still available. I had someone burn me my copy awhile ago. And here's a good sample of sound in my videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLR5x7fZe8U&fmt=18 Edited July 6, 2009 by kevincal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 You say "SEVERE video distortion and POOR audio." That's just straight up bullshit. And it is an attack. No it isn't, and I'm sorry you feel that way. Having wild moire/color distortions in videos that are supposed to be representing the system, does not do it justice. I'm all for your enthusiasm and work that you put forward. You do need to consider the results in context though. That's all I am saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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