[Video]

Hey, I just bought a PSP 3000 system with the granturisom pack in, and I wanted to know, does the TV cable thing come with it, or do I have to buy that seperately? I just want to know cause I bought it online and it should be here sometime nextweek, and really wanted a new PSP for it's connectivity, but didn't know.

Another thing, does it still use standard Memory stick du cards, or does it use some tiny format?, I got a 1gb, and would like to get a 16, will it take one that big?

And for saves, is there any special copy protection, or do I just copy the files like any memory card..

This post has been edited by Video: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:30 PM

[Atari Dogs]

As for the memory stick, it takes the normal pro duo memory sticks. It can take up to 16 mb.

As for the tv cord I do not know. If the cord comes with the psp you bought and the cord you bought can be used on the PSP 2000, I may want to buy it from you.

[Video]

Well, I was wandering about the cable cause I was wanting one, and wanted to know if I needed it as a seperate part or something. Sorry about that.

After seeing prices, I think I'll just get an 8GB card though, the 16's still cost more than twice as much (why's the largest size always like that?)

[Atari Dogs]

You can actually get a 32 mb card. It one of those cards that you put the micro card in. You put two 16 mb micros in it.

[Atariboy]

The tv/out cable isn't bundled with it, you'll have to buy it individually. If you plan to be playing on a screen that can do at least 480p, make sure you get the component cables.

Also worth mentioning it's the same cable as the 2000 uses, and that the PSP Go's cable is different so make sure you don't get one labeled for use on the PSP Go, since it won't work.

[Video]

Darn that sucks. I mean, Thanks for the info! I do want to hook it to my TV (otherwise, I don't know that the 2-3k systems offer anything over my phat, other than a newer battery) Looks like i'll have to see what's available here, hopefully it's not to heinusly priced

Hey, Micro duo cards would be cool, I didn't see any on the site I got my stuff from (newegg) but maybe elsewhere. And I haven't seen a 2 micro reader at all (walmarts got the singles, that's a cool Idea though) Now I gotta look at one. But eh, the 8 only cost $25, and the 16 woulda been nearly 90, so I figured...feck it....for now.

Thanks for the help guys

Oh...one more question...do the batteries work from teh 1k-3k systems? When mine goes out in my phat, can I use a slim battery in it, or does it have to be it's own kind?

[Atariboy]

I forget exact details, but I believe you could use your PSP1000 battery on PSP2000/3000 models for extended battery life (Though how you'd get a battery cover to go over the bulkier battery, I don't know).

Or you could buy the extended life battery kit that includes the battery with the longest life (2200mAh, greater than standard PSP1000 batteries, which themselves are greater than standard 2000/3000 batteries), with the necessary cover already in the package to cover it.

Never heard of anyone wanting to go the other way around, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. Though if you just put a standard PSP2000/3000 battery in there, be aware that it's capacity is 1/3 less than the standard 1000 battery and you'd get a significant reduction in battery life (2000/3000 models are more power efficient, so the battery was able to be slimmed down in their drive to reduce size, which is why you need a special cover to use higher capacity batteries on it).

So you'd want to get that extended life battery if you ever replaced the 1000's battery (If they're still available, doesn't seem like I've seen the extended life battery accessory for sale in a long time). I remember planning to buy one when I bought my 3000 in order to put the longer life battery into my 1000, while moving the 1000's standard battery to the 3000 to extend battery life in both of my PSP's, but it wasn't worth the $30 or so it would cost to do it. They were already somewhat rare then just a couple months after the 3000 launched and appeared like they might be discontinued. I can only find standard PSP slim batteries doing a quick search just now among retailers like GameStop.

This post has been edited by Atariboy: Sun Nov 1, 2009 7:09 PM

[Atari Dogs]

Here is an example of the dual memory card. http://www.meritline...---p-38213.aspx

[shadow460]

The 2000 and 3000 series units offer double the system RAM (32 x 2 for 64MB), which is generally used to cache data from the UMD in the upper 32MB. The upper 32MB can be used to multi task on a 2000, meaning you can run your media player while browsing the web.
They offer better battery life in comparison with the 1000 series...provided you use the same type of battery. Of course, to accommodate a 1000 series battery or the battery from the Extended Life battery kit, you have to install the bulge battery door.
The 2000 and 3000 series offer Skype usage, and the 3000 has a built in microphone. All three offer the Location Free Player, however, it's far easier to get it running with custom firmware on a 2000.

The batteries all function identically in all three units, however, they are not all interchangeable. The PSP-1000 will drain the 1200 mAh "Slim" batteries too quickly, damaging their gel packs in the process. This can cause a fire or explosion. The Slim batteries can, however, be used as a "key" to boot the 1000 series PSP as long as the power cord is plugged in just after the system boots. This is useful if you want to use a Slim JigKick battery to put a 1000 series PSP into Service Mode.

Of course, the larger batteries will work in the 2000 and 3000 series PSP's just fine. Also, the PSP-191 and PSP-330 battery chargers have the exact same output. The only thing that prevents use of the Slim battery in the old 191 charger (that's the one with the fold out prongs) is that the charger's "key" cutouts were not designed with the Slim battery in mind. I don't recommend trying to mod a 191, since in my experience they are a bit hard to find. Also the 330 has a detachable cord so it won't hog up several outlets in your power strip.

EDIT:
I've read that the dual card adapter can limit access speeds on the "memory stick". I don't know how true this is.
Also, the reason one can only find Slim batteries is that the 1800 and 2200 mAh "phat" batteries were discontinued almost a year ago to thwart Pandora users. Pandora requires only the circuit card from these batteries, though. When the "phat" batteries begin to fail, they can be repaired by replacing their gel packs (easier said than done).

This post has been edited by shadow460: Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:03 PM

[Atari Dogs]

shadow460, on Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:59 PM, said:

Of course, the larger batteries will work in the 2000 and 3000 series PSP's just fine. Also, the PSP-191 and PSP-330 battery chargers have the exact same output. The only thing that prevents use of the Slim battery in the old 191 charger (that's the one with the fold out prongs) is that the charger's "key" cutouts were not designed with the Slim battery in mind. I don't recommend trying to mod a 191, since in my experience they are a bit hard to find. Also the 330 has a detachable cord so it won't hog up several outlets in your power strip.

EDIT:
I've read that the dual card adapter can limit access speeds on the "memory stick". I don't know how true this is.
Also, the reason one can only find Slim batteries is that the 1800 and 2200 mAh "phat" batteries were discontinued almost a year ago to thwart Pandora users. Pandora requires only the circuit card from these batteries, though. When the "phat" batteries begin to fail, they can be repaired by replacing their gel packs (easier said than done).

I just bought a clearanced 191 charger. I did not know it needed to be modified for the slim batteries. I will have to look into that. I guess my Pandora battery will be able to get charged in it though.

[monzamess]

I have a Photofast dual microSD adapter with two 8GB class 6 cards for 16GB total. If it's slower than a real duo, I can't tell. I also have a 8GB class 4 in a single micro-duo adapter. Neither cause any problems or noticeable slowdowns compared to my real 1GB and 2GB duos. They're certainly faster than UMD which is all I want.

I also have Sony's extended 2200mah battery for my slim. The official one comes with black and silver "bump out" battery covers for the PSP2000. It works as advertised.

You can get all kinds of unofficial PSP batteries off of ebay and other places but every review I've read about them says they're trash. For example, a "2600mah" battery lasting half the time of the original 1200, completely dying in a couple of months, etc.

[shadow460]

It's a tight fit, but I've gotten my 191 to charge the Slim batteries occasionally. The first few times, though, the orange light began flashing, indicating an error. I think the pack may have been defective, because the three I have now will charge for a few minutes at least. I don't leave them in it, though, since I a have a 330 also.
Either way, those two chargers aren't very common at all. If nothing else, pack it up and save it, and in 10 years you'll have a decent conversation piece.
If I were to mod something, I'd mod the batteries instead of the charger. They're still making those Slim batteries, after all.
All that said, the 191 is great for someone who uses the big batteries. It's a tiny device, small enough for a purse or pocket. My wife carries it with her sometimes, and she uses the sense out of that 191 charger and three 2200 mAh batteries. The 330, on the other hand, would be a lot harder for her to carry with since it's got that cord.

Time Machine and some newer custom firmwares can boot from that Pandora battery, so don't chuck it.

Atari Dogs, on Wed Nov 4, 2009 9:49 AM, said:

shadow460, on Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:59 PM, said:

Of course, the larger batteries will work in the 2000 and 3000 series PSP's just fine. Also, the PSP-191 and PSP-330 battery chargers have the exact same output. The only thing that prevents use of the Slim battery in the old 191 charger (that's the one with the fold out prongs) is that the charger's "key" cutouts were not designed with the Slim battery in mind. I don't recommend trying to mod a 191, since in my experience they are a bit hard to find. Also the 330 has a detachable cord so it won't hog up several outlets in your power strip.

EDIT:
I've read that the dual card adapter can limit access speeds on the "memory stick". I don't know how true this is.
Also, the reason one can only find Slim batteries is that the 1800 and 2200 mAh "phat" batteries were discontinued almost a year ago to thwart Pandora users. Pandora requires only the circuit card from these batteries, though. When the "phat" batteries begin to fail, they can be repaired by replacing their gel packs (easier said than done).

I just bought a clearanced 191 charger. I did not know it needed to be modified for the slim batteries. I will have to look into that. I guess my Pandora battery will be able to get charged in it though.

[Video]

Wait, you can use Micro SD cards too? Damn, I woulda stuck with that had I known, I thought it would only take duo cards... (and SD are quiet a bit cheaper and easier to come by, at least around here too) Anyhow, the 8 gb card has all my tunes I've bothered to rip from my computer, and still has several gigs left, I don't guess I'll need to upgrade for a while.

Well, I got my 3000 in earlier this week. Yeah, the battery's are changeable, I booted it with my old 1k battery, and it worked fine. I thought it was funny though, when I picked the thing up and was like "What the? 1200mah? WTF!??!" I mean, seriously, I have noticed my 1k battery doesn't get the life it used to, around 8 hours or so (as opposed to 10 when I first got it) but the 1200 gets about 7 hours, so

Anyhow, I wanted to know, is it normal for the screen to look and act the way it does? I mean, I never noticed it on my phat, maybe it's got a better difuser or something, but the 3k one I got looks like it's got a grid of pixels when it lights up (instead of looking like one solid piece) and it has that interpolated 'tearing' when you scroll at almost any speed. Maybe I just don't notice on my phat because as I said, its' got the screen protector on it, and may have a filter or something built into the system.

Oh...and one funny thing, I get it, slam in Granturisom and it says "your system is 4.blah, and you have to upgrade to 5.55" I'm sorry, but that was just funny yeah, pack it in with a game that can't be played until you upgrade the firmware, though I guess that's why to have the update on the disc itself.

One thing scared me though, I loaded my music on the card, and put it in the PSP, and when I was at work the next day, I was going to listen to it, and it lists the name of the artists, and says "zero tracks" on most my stuff. And I'm just like "WHAT??! I'll kick you r@$$" But as it turns out, it worked fine, I just had to go dump the individual albums onto the card, as apparently the PSP doesn't read tiered folders :/

Anyhow, overall, I just gotta say, the 3k system is fairly cheap feeling, odly. It's certainly lighter than my phat, I don't know if I'll ever warm up to it, it's slightly thinner too, but other than that, exactly the same size.

Now I just need to go online and get a TV cable, maybe one of those dual mini readers, and a MicroSD-MSPD card. Woo.

Anyhow, thanks for all the help and info guys. I appreciate all the input.

[monzamess]

Yeah, microSD but only with the microSD-pro duo adapter. And it's all "unofficial" at that point--no MagicGate I guess--but I don't yet know the benefit of supporting that. Everything I want to do works fine. Maybe it's a feature of the CFW.

On the 3000 screen: It's not just you. Couple of relevant links:
http://www.slashgear...ifacts-2119941/
http://www.slashgear...lained-3121021/

[shadow460]

When I got my first Slim, it felt like I was playing a piece of plastic. The unit died on me three months later. I got it replaced and the one I have now still feels like plastic, but it is going strong.

Good to know GT requires firmware 5.55. I was fingering it the other day, but if DAX hasn't made a high enough firmware to run it, then I don't need it.

Lithium ion batteries lose about 20% of their capacity per year. This loss can be reduced by keeping the batteries cool (keep 'em in the fridge if you aren't using them) and by NOT keeping them fully charged all the time. If you're using the device daily, like a cell phone or a PSP while you're playing a new game, it's OK to keep it fully charged. If not, don't recharge then right away after you use them.
Also, I think you can get a flat rate for trading in batteries no matter how old they are. If you go to a used video game store, they're probably gonna give you the same amount for a battery built in 2005 as they would for one built this year. The older battery is only going to have less than half its capacity left, but you could trade it to get credit towards a new one.
When mine die, I will probably just have them fitted with new gel packs.

[Video]

Cool to know about the batteries. I did try my 1800 in the PS3k when I got it (to see if it booted etc) and had no problems with it in that reguard. To bad the lite batteries will be damaged by the 1k system, though that's probably due to them being 1200mah, and getting an extended version of the lite battery may take care of that....if one is made.

I'll see about those SD to MSPD converters, I imagine the "magic gate" feature has something to do with some sony product, but the only thing i own that uses MSPD is the PSP, so it doesn't make sense to pay the premium if another product works...

monzamess, on Fri Nov 6, 2009 7:38 PM, said:

Yeah, microSD but only with the microSD-pro duo adapter. And it's all "unofficial" at that point--no MagicGate I guess--but I don't yet know the benefit of supporting that. Everything I want to do works fine. Maybe it's a feature of the CFW.

On the 3000 screen: It's not just you. Couple of relevant links:
http://www.slashgear...ifacts-2119941/
http://www.slashgear...lained-3121021/

Ohmygod. Well, at least it wasn't the typical "it's just you" that I useually get when I say something like that. But damn, it just drives me completely nuts. I'd say that had this been my first PSP, I would have been kinda pissed about that (it's no good having a huge screen if it looks like crap in motion IMO )

Anyhow...I did get it to hook up to the TV specifically so the 1k will stay in my pocket untill it dies, then I guess I'll look for another 1k or 2k system...but at this point, I think I like the 1K a lot better. One thing, this is the first PSP I've seen that didn't have at least one dead pixel on it (though my bought used 1k is barely noticeable as it's some weird really dark grey and almost no games show it.

Anyways, tanks for all the info guys.

One more thing I guess, is the game supposed to flop loose when the cover is open? It just seems wrong not to have some kind of shoot to guide the thing in though I guess it's not for holding the game in while it's open. Just hope it always goes in right, cause it might damage something....everything looks pretty naked inside.

[Video]

Well, after looking around, I couldn't really find any cables that claimed to be 3k specific, so I just bought some from Walmart that said Slim. Hopefully it'll work, I got AV and Componant, just out of curiosity of how much of a difference I'll see on my TV, LCD and projector. Should be in next weeks ometime through StS. Yeah, our local store didn't have cables, bastids, so anyhow, I'm waiting.

Looks like I spoke to soon on that 3k system too, it's got a green pixel right in the middle of the screen, and I swear that wasn't there when I first got it. Now at this point, I'm figuring weather I should send it back, or not worry about it, since I won't be useing it anyways.

Hey, when you hook a video cable up, does the screen go off to save power? I figure so, but I've seen dumbasseries before so...

Anyhow, thanks for all the info guys. I'll chime in again when I get the cables.

[shadow460]

For the "dead" pixel, there are videos that can clear it if it's just stuck on green. The one I have runs about 20 minutes and does nothing but flash red, green, and blue.

The screen on my 2000 stays lit until I choose to switch the video output in the menu. When it switches to the connected screen, the internal one shuts down.

Extended life batteries should be compatible with both the 1000 and 3000 systems. If not, there are probably tons of used ones and there's also a mod that allows the use of three AA cells with a PSP-1000. Since the chemistry of the AAA cells is different, they won't be damaged by the PSP-1000.

My movies flop loose when the Slim's door is open, too. The games don't, but that's because they are all played from the memory stick and the UMDs are stored on my game shelf. It has never damaged any of the UMDs, though, even thought they flop loose like that.

[Video]

Thanks, I'll do a search for the Video, and see what i get ( I do remember shuting the system down right after booting cause something happened elsewhere in the house I had to be at and I think that's the point the pixel showed up, so hopefully it's just stuck)

Yeah, a battery pack that uses AA batteries, that's for me, heck, the small batteries I use are 2400Mah already.

The Walmart send me an Email and said my cables in the mail. I chose Sight to Store, it's reasonable for shipping actually, but I decided, it might be nice to see how long StS takes, so the wire should be on it's way, if it hits by friday, I'll be very happy, if not, one great thing about StS, unlike mail, walmart shipps 7 days a week (or did when I worked there)

Thanks again for the info, I'll go and look again for it later.

[shadow460]

They're triple A batteries, not double. I think the highest rating I've seen on triples is between 1200 and 1500 mAh.

[Video]

shadow460, on Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:06 PM, said:

They're triple A batteries, not double. I think the highest rating I've seen on triples is between 1200 and 1500 mAh.

Aww, that sucks, I don't really like AAA's, just to weak IMO.

Got an email from Walmart, one of my cabbles came in, so I got it printed off and get to go by later and pick it up. Yay, now I can play on my TV (now watch them come back with "oh, it's at a different store" WTF?!?? I'll KILL )

Er...well, if I can get borderland unbolted from the TV, that is

[Video]

Well, it was the AVS cable, so I ripped open the box, plugged it into the TV and turned the thing on. Took a while to figure out how to switch to the TV (woulda thought that would have been automatic or something, eh...) And, well, it's a bit fuzzy looking, but I got the RGB cable coming too, should be here in another day or two, maybe that will take care of that. Anyhow, once I got it switched, I'm basking in the glow of the TV and runing the PSP main page. But what to play? What else, I've been playing for a month now, so I dug out Locoroco and plugged it in, pressed start and it goes to the PSP screen, and there's a border....WTF? I hope its not going to play like that, but it's probably just like that there. Then it gets to the game, and the border is even bigger. I'd say it's playing an image that's about half the size of the screen. WTF? Is this normal? I hope not. I kicked out the game and fiddled with settings, and go back in, playing widescreen, 3/4 screen, interlaced, etc, and they all effected the main screen in different ways, but none effected the gameplay.

Anyhow, kinda bumbed about that. It could be the game, but I had to work in the morning, and it was late, so I didn't try anything else, but I don't see it being different from game to game, that would be just stupid. And what about movies? I don't have any of those, and as they are not being made anymore, I see no real reason to pick one up, when I can load a DVD onto my Netbook and watch it there.

So...anyways, am I just an idiot? Is there a "full screen" mode like the Gameboy has on it's various TV devices? Is there something wrong with it or can the componant cable fix it or what?

Yeah, anyhow, thanks for all the help guys.

[Atariboy]

Video, on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:32 PM, said:

Well, after looking around, I couldn't really find any cables that claimed to be 3k specific, so I just bought some from Walmart that said Slim.

I told you in the 5th post that the cables were the same for the PSP 2000 and 3000, I just warned you not to buy the PSP Go's tv out cables since they're different and not compatible with a slim PSP.

Tv out is working normally, the PSP only scales the dashboard and UMD movies so they're full screen. Sony decided game playback could only be outputted at the original resolution of the PSP screen, which is 480x272. Through homebrew though, you can get it to output games full screen.

This post has been edited by Atariboy: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:55 PM

[shadow460]

Homebrew still doesn't mix well with the 3000, though. And to clarify, the UMD movies are presented in whichever aspect ratio they would be on the PSP. Depending on your TV you might still see the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen.

Fu Sa can output games to a 4 to 3 screen on a PSP 2000.

[Video]

Aww...that sucks. oh well. With the projector I guess I can just adjust it so it's "full screen" for the game and just have it flow over the screen when using the dash.

Oh well, I was expecting it to be full screen and when it did the whole GBA border thing I was just like "WTF??!"
Hmmm....480x272...maybe time to dig out the SD TV and see if it'll play right. Come to think of it, I think I got a 480x320 setting on my LCD, but it'd probably still scale down the picture to the center.

Gah...oh well. Maybe the Composite (componant? RGB) cable will at least fix the fuzzyness. It wouldn't be so bad if it was at least a clear image .