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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:21 PM

I KNOW some of you have to have gotten it for either 360 or pc (and eventually PS3). Sooo, is anyone else excited to try this game out as much as i am?
I'm getting it for Pc, but if i like it well enough, im going to recommend it to my friend who will get the 360 or ps3 version which i will also test out. :D

360 version came out on the 3rd in the US, Pc is already out! Any reviews from fellow gammers yet?? :ponder:

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Posted Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:35 PM

I will get this eventually. Right now I'm too excited about the C.O.D Modern Warfare launch to get into much else. That and I'll probably be moving soon so I'm kind of trying not to spend so much. I'll snag it when it's < $30

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Posted Fri Nov 6, 2009 9:57 AM

View Postmoycon, on Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:35 PM, said:

I will get this eventually. Right now I'm too excited about the C.O.D Modern Warfare launch to get into much else. That and I'll probably be moving soon so I'm kind of trying not to spend so much. I'll snag it when it's < $30


What he said.

And actually, but the time I get around to playing it, I figure Mass Effect will be out and that will be a time eater for sure. I imagine I will be playing this in the late spring / summer new video game lull.

Edited by therealred5, Fri Nov 6, 2009 9:58 AM.


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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:47 PM

I've been enjoying it quite a bit so far (the 360 version). It's a pretty standard D&D style western RPG, which I like. Nice change of pace from all the turn-based Japanese ones. The storyline and setting are original, and not based on anything... they're not very original, but fairly decent, and the game world is quite deep (occasionally a little TOO deep, when you get confused over the relations between certain characters and such). You'll often run across things that add information to your "codex" which you can read in the sub menu. These readings add a lot of backstory, and explain the history of the world. So far I'm only a short way into the game, but there are a few things that bothered me a bit:
  • There are some graphical flaws... the graphic are nice, but not so incredible for the 360 as to explain the occasional poor framerate. Strangely, it seems most noticeable in the cutscenes, while actual gameplay seems relatively smooth to me. Speaking of the cutscenes, most show your character up close, and the textures used for your weapons look noticeably low res. Once in a while, I'd also see flickering textures... only 2 or 3 times so far, but very noticeable when it happens. There are also all kinds of clipping issues, usually with your weapons. Lastly, there's not a lot of physics going on... you'll see characters with their hair in long braids, but the braids are locked in place and move with the characters head rather than obeying gravity. Also, you'll notice a lot of characters wearing the same clothes or hairstyles. Once in a while, you'll notice characters with similar voices too, though it nowhere near as bad as Oblivion was for voice actor overuse.
  • I created a female elf character, and the opening story involved my character and a friend discovering a cave with a strange mirror in it that cursed us both... my character survived by becoming a Grey Warden, by my friend was assumed dead. There wasn't a whole lot of meat to this opening section, and it seemed more like just an introduction to the storyline and gameplay. While I have yet to try any of the other 5 openings, I assume they're similarly short. On the plus side, many character that I've encountered since leaving for the Grey Wardens have specifically mentioned my characters gender and race... so I'm guessing the game actually does follow through on that aspect. One thing I haven't really gotten so far, is that almost every dialogue choice I'm given includes at least one option to get defensive about humans treatment of elves... but so far, I'm not really feeling it. Part of the intro story included a part where my parents were killed by humans, but I only got this story by coercing someone into telling me, and I could very easily have missed it... occasionally I come across humans mistreating elves, but I can't seem to take it personally enough to fight for them or anything. We'll see.
  • The game world doesn't seem very interactive. All the chests, crates, etc that have something of interest in them are glittering to show that you can search them, but anything that is not glittering is just a static part of the scenery. I guess Oblivion spoiled me by allowing me to ransack entire houses and open every cupboard and drawer in town. Likewise, there are a lot of generic characters in the game. If you see someone who's just named "Soldier" or "Farmer", then you know they won't have anything useful to say.
  • In order to do anything with DLC, including redeem codes, you have to log into some retarded EA thing. What is the point of this? All my other games just use Xbox Live to store all the content. It's not convenient at all, and it seems like it's just another trick for EA to harvest email addresses or something. I would have gladly chosen not to participate, but then I wouldn't be able to redeem any of the codes that I got with my CE copy.
  • Combat is pretty straight-forward. Just select a target, and press A and your character will start attacking, with no input needed. You can activate various effects you have learned to change your attack patterns. For example, I'm trying to style my character as an archer, and two of the abilities I have allow me to either fire rapidly (at the cost of no critical strikes), or to fire more accurately (higher damage, slower speed). These are both toggle effects that have effect until I specifically disable them, though they consume a portion of an ability gauge that I haven't quite worked out yet (I assume this is so you can't stack too many of these abilities). There are a few problems I had with combat though... for one, when your target dies, your character just stands there. As an archer, it was sometimes not immediately apparent that my target had just been killed, as they were some distance away, so there's some wasted time there. There's actually a whole tactics screen where you can change what characters do in some situations, so maybe this is just a case of me not knowing what I'm doing yet. Also, the A button is used for much more than just combat... searching dead bodies, disarming traps, etc... so in the heat of combat, you can't search a body... even if your next enemy isn't even on the map yet, but you're aware of them, you have to run over, kill them, then find your way back to the body. Likewise, my character discovered a bunch of bear traps while other monsters were attacking. I pressed A trying to attack them, but my character instead dropped to the ground and started disarming traps. Lastly, it's kind of neat that your characters get blood splattered on them in combat... but the effect is WAY overused. You'll kill a single wolf, and your character is *covered* in blood.
Anyways, these are all fairly minor problems in my opinion, and I've been finding the game very enjoyable all around. The interface is functional, load times were reasonable, there is a pretty wide variety of loot that you can carry around and switch out, plenty of abilities to gain and NPC's to fight with. You can get a decent number of people tagging along with you, though you can only have 3 with you during any one phase of the game, you can swap them out when you make camp. Each character will start to like or dislike you based on your actions, and you can talk to them to influence this as well. All the areas of the game that I've seen so far have included extra things to find, which turn into quests. So it really pays to explore areas thoroughly. It's also nice to see a role playing game where you really CAN choose a role and play it, even if that means being an enormous asshole rather than a saint.

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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:10 PM

Yup! This game is BIG on exploring and asking questions. If you dont you end up missing things, alot of things!
I too started off as a female elf rouge! I was also curious as to why they seemed to push the whole "Maybe my friend isn't dead..." and then it was just dropped.

I lovin this game right now. I was literally up all night trying to get through the most recent part of the story line.
Also another interesting thing i figured out was the whole gifts thing. If you have certain members of your party, and you acquire special gifts, you can give them to them and learn a little backed history.
I did have an issue with the cut scenes too but it wasnt too much of a distraction.

Overall, This game to me feels like if Lord of the rings, oblivion, and diablo 2 made an adorable demonic love child. And i LOVE it! :D

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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:06 PM

View Postmoycon, on Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:35 PM, said:

I will get this eventually. Right now I'm too excited about the C.O.D Modern Warfare launch to get into much else. That and I'll probably be moving soon so I'm kind of trying not to spend so much. I'll snag it when it's < $30
What? You'll delay playing what could be the RPG of the year just to play another yearly installment of Call of Madden, er Duty? :twisted:

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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM

View PostMCHufnagel, on Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:06 PM, said:

What? You'll delay playing what could be the RPG of the year just to play another yearly installment of Call of Madden, er Duty? :twisted:

It's not the game I'm talking about. ;)

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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:57 PM

View Postmoycon, on Thu Nov 5, 2009 9:35 PM, said:

I will get this eventually. Right now I'm too excited about the C.O.D Modern Warfare launch to get into much else. That and I'll probably be moving soon so I'm kind of trying not to spend so much. I'll snag it when it's < $30
I've never played a Call of Duty game. Perhaps I should pick up Modern Warfare before playing Modern Warfare 2? If someone has a copy they will sell me cheap, I'm all ears. ;)

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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:24 PM

Dragon Age is on my "I'll get it eventually" list, which happens to be the highest priority list I maintain. I'll probably wait till a package comes out that includes some of the DLC. It's what I did with Fallout 3, and I'm pleased that I waited.

Now I feel silly. Did any of you ever wait a year to buy Super Mario Bros so you could get the GOTY edition with all of the extra levels? Sheesh.

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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:49 PM

I'll definitely have to check this game out, I thought it was another godawful JRPG so I didn't pay any attention to it. :D

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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:00 PM

I got DA:O CE in the mail last week. I was really disappointed with the collector's edition. Very cheap map and sticky tape all over the case (to prevent theft I assume, but it was directly shipped from EA!)

The game is above average, but I must say I like Fable II and Oblivion better in most ways. I do like DA's story and I like the D&D feeling fantasy world (even though I'm not a D&D player)

I assume Moycon is waiting for the COD Super Elite console. Enjoy it when you get it. You'd be surprised how hard it is to make an HDD with black colored edges.

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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:06 PM

Picked it up today for 360 - haven't had much of a chance to play it, I just created my character and a few minutes of the intro level. I love D&D-themed games, and I've enjoyed most of Bioware's stuff so this should be right up my alley (assuming I have time to actually play it).

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Posted Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:44 AM

I'm very early into the game - maybe 2-3 hours and just became a Grey Warden - but honestly I'm a little underwhelmed. I a complete sucker for traditional D&D-style fantasy RPGs, but the story is really generic. The mage intro is ripped off straight from the Dragonlance books. The combat feels like a poor man's Phantasy Star Online. Your teammates are running all over, spread far beyond what you can see on screen, so it's tough to keep track of what they're doing. I don't know, it just feels kind of loose and... mashy. There's no drama to the battles. I don't know, I'll stick with it for a while since I normally love Bioware's stuff, but if it doesn't pick up soon this might go on ebay. I hope it's just a bad first impression because I really want to like it. Maybe it's a case of having expectations that were too high. I just played Fallout 3 a couple of months ago and while it's a little bit different in style, was better in every way and hooked me right from the get go.

Edited by BydoEmpire, Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:46 AM.


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Posted Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:05 AM

For what it's worth, the story gets a bit more epic as soon as you get through the battle of Ostagar. I don't want to say too much, but you'll see what I mean... After the battle, you'll have a lot on your plate, and things are far more complicated than you think (and even the four "obvious" quests that you're left with afterwards are pretty convoluted).

As for the battles, so far they haven't gotten any better for me. The real trick is making good use of your tactics slots to decide how your party will go about things. You can make they do a surprising variety of things, and you gain more tactics slots when your characters level up (put points into cunning, or the combat tactics abilities to get them). For example, you can add a tactic that tells your character to heal themselves when they're low on health... without that, you'll have to watch their status bar like a hawk.

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Posted Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:12 AM

Not sure why, but the regular price of Dragon Age has already fallen to $49.99. Was at the mall with the wife-unit Friday and passed a GameStop with a poster of it in the window saying "New Low Price".

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Posted Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:48 PM

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and things are far more complicated than you think (and even the four "obvious" quests that you're left with afterwards are pretty convoluted).
Wow, yeah, that definitely seems to be true. I do like the fact that there's nonstop things to do - it's getting fairly addicting in a "one more quest/one more level" type of way.

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Posted Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:46 PM

I'm surprised everyone here seems to like this as much as they do. I really found it sub par. It looks awful, and reminds me more of Two Worlds than Mass Effect as far as graphics go. The plot may be summed up as 'We Like Those Lord of the Rings movies' :P

Combat is boring, and the 'program your teammates' system is just annoying as hell.

I dunno. Everyone I know that bought it was really disappointed (like five people). It's nor horrible, but it's very, very average. It reminds me of one of those second-tier PC Oblivion knockoffs.

Maybe it's just me, but I gave it ten hours, and then sold it. It's not even in the same league as the other Bioware RPGs, nor is it close to recent goodies like Demon's Souls.

Guess it's a matter of taste. Glad someone is getting their money's worth out of it,.

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Posted Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:26 AM

The game has me addicted now (about 10 hours in). It definitely started slow, and I still wouldn't put it up to Bethesda's stuff or KotoR, but I'm enjoying it. There's a definitely a "just one more quest/room/level" feel to it. On the other hand, it's a little annoying that you can't just do a quest to advance the plot, because just when you think you're about to resolve something you get forced into a series of sub quests that take another couple of hours before you can get back to what you wanted to do in the first place. It's one of those games that I'm addicted to despite not really being in love with it. Enjoyable, worth playing, but not spectacular.

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Posted Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:43 AM

View PostBydoEmpire, on Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:26 AM, said:

It's one of those games that I'm addicted to despite not really being in love with it. Enjoyable, worth playing, but not spectacular.

I was the same way with Two World. It was enjoyable, but dismal. LOL

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Posted Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:04 AM

I've run into an annoying bug several times now when I save right before I go through a door (360 version). If I open the door and die, then reload, the door is closed but there's no icon to open it, often trapping me in a room I can't get out of. Nothing to do but go back to a previous save. I don't know exactly what the circumstance is - I think I have to open the door but not go through, then save. Anyways, watch out. Save early, save often.

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Posted Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:41 PM

Still loving this game!!

Im on the quest for the "Sacred Ashes" at the moment.
Still only big complaint is the camera angles. So hard to mess with sometimes!
Other than that, ive run into a couple silly bugs but nothing thats really hindered my game. Also i save often due to auto saving sleeping on the job sometimes.

Still playing the PC version but my friend got the 360 version and is slowly becoming obsessed as well.

And as i have become obsessed with Dragon Ages on my PC, I recently got a new Xbox 360 and have now lured Beergnome into the wonderful time consuming world that is Fallout 3. :) He was playing it all last night! Its kinda fun watching him figure out the 360 controls lol. :rolling:

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Posted Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:38 PM

This is a GREAT game. Just started playing today and can tell you now it's worth picking up if you're a RPG fan. It very much reminds me of Mass Effect at this point, but maybe not yet quite up to M.E.'s standards. I've heard at some point the story line really throws you for a loop and takes off. I'm thinking I'm not yet to that point, but if this game gets much greater, I might have a new entry in the Xbox 360 top 5 GREAT RPG list. :cool:

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Posted Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:57 AM

View Postmoycon, on Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:38 PM, said:

This is a GREAT game. Just started playing today and can tell you now it's worth picking up if you're a RPG fan. It very much reminds me of Mass Effect at this point, but maybe not yet quite up to M.E.'s standards. I've heard at some point the story line really throws you for a loop and takes off. I'm thinking I'm not yet to that point, but if this game gets much greater, I might have a new entry in the Xbox 360 top 5 GREAT RPG list. :cool:

Ahah! Im not the only one in love with this game...
Ive had it for over a week or so now...and will honestly admit this game is now an unhealthy obsession for me. Im already on my second game!

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Posted Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:27 PM

The similarities to Mass Effect are undeniable, however this games focus's much more on conversing with NPC and choosing what you will say in regards to a particular situation. The scenario's are VERY engrossing as well as rewarding. For example: Will you kill the battle dog that swallowed demon spawn blood and is very ill or will you try and get him to bond with you, and if you choose the later will you try and find a particular plant in the wilds to help his chance of surviving the demon blood poison? This game is getting better and better and I have the feeling the best is yet to come. :thumbsup:

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Posted Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:25 AM

Well, I finished one of the main threads (beat the Thrall Demon in the Fade and rescued the boy). I went on vacation for a few days, picked the game back up and have absolutely no desire to continue. I'm in the forest fighting werewolves, and it just seems kind of pointless. I don't know, the game definitely grew on me for a while but it's not keeping me engaged. The dialog and characters are great, but the plot is pretty poor, imho.





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