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#101 5-11under OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed May 5, 2010 10:12 AM

 channelmaniac, on Wed May 5, 2010 9:11 AM, said:

Pick up the audio at C88 (at the back of the board near the RF Modulator) and you'll get the audio from the CV and the Expansion modules. Don't tap on the sound chip itself or you'll miss the audio from the expansion module.

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Hi channelmaniac,

The instructions don't say to connect directly to the sound chip. It says to connect to the "other side" of C100 (which is labeled J4(2) in the readily available on-line CV schematic). this is pretty much the same as what you propose, except is through a filter capacitor. Either should work fine.

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Posted Tue May 11, 2010 1:49 PM

I've had a couple of recent inquiries about the availability of the component video mod, so here goes...

I have at least a couple of units ready to be mailed anytime. I'd just have to do a quick re-test before mailing them. These could be mailed out within 0-2 days.

I have a handful of others that are nearly complete, just requiring minor, partial assembly, followed by testing. These could be mailed out within 1-3 days.

I have components for at least a dozen more, and plenty more circuit boards, so I can easily build more anytime. I can also purchase more parts or PCBs of course, if required. If I run low on the ready or almost ready units, I'll assemble some more. Therefore the lead-time on future units should be 1-3 days, unless a bunch of orders come in around the same time (then the lead-time might be up to a week or so).

If you're interested, they're $45 US each via PayPal, mailed to USA/Canada. Send me a PM if you'd like one.

Also...

I'm working on the last part of the instructions, to go with the first part that was uploaded a week or so ago. Look for that soon.

Thanks,
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Edited by 5-11under, Tue May 11, 2010 1:51 PM.


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Posted Sun May 16, 2010 4:39 PM

 5-11under, on Tue May 11, 2010 1:49 PM, said:

I've had a couple of recent inquiries about the availability of the component video mod, so here goes...

I have at least a couple of units ready to be mailed anytime. I'd just have to do a quick re-test before mailing them. These could be mailed out within 0-2 days.

I have a handful of others that are nearly complete, just requiring minor, partial assembly, followed by testing. These could be mailed out within 1-3 days.

I have components for at least a dozen more, and plenty more circuit boards, so I can easily build more anytime. I can also purchase more parts or PCBs of course, if required. If I run low on the ready or almost ready units, I'll assemble some more. Therefore the lead-time on future units should be 1-3 days, unless a bunch of orders come in around the same time (then the lead-time might be up to a week or so).

If you're interested, they're $45 US each via PayPal, mailed to USA/Canada. Send me a PM if you'd like one.

Also...

I'm working on the last part of the instructions, to go with the first part that was uploaded a week or so ago. Look for that soon.

Thanks,
5-11under

I successfully modded one of my "good" ColecoVisions with a new switch, a really cool active/standby LED and the RGB component kit. I had to resize the template to 6" in Paint Shop Pro. I did a fair amount of tweaking after I drilled the main holes too. On the full flicker set you'll notice I also accidentally removed an inducter I shouldn't have. No big loss though, the thing still works like a champ! 5-11, I'm gonna take another if they're still available. I'll PM you.

Here are some photos of my new favorite machine:


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Full flickr set.

Edited by Madaracs, Sun May 16, 2010 4:41 PM.


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Posted Sun May 16, 2010 6:05 PM

Nice pictures, Madaracs!

Just to be clear, you've done the drilling properly... from the outside, as you ended up doing. I'll have to make sure the instructions are more clear on that.

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Posted Mon May 17, 2010 8:38 AM

 5-11under, on Sun May 16, 2010 6:05 PM, said:

Nice pictures, Madaracs!

Just to be clear, you've done the drilling properly... from the outside, as you ended up doing. I'll have to make sure the instructions are more clear on that.

Thanks,
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Apparently flickr doesn't allow external linking? That's bogus. Hmm. I'll edit my post to point strictly at flickr. Less image intensive anyway.

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Posted Mon May 17, 2010 11:39 AM

 Madaracs, on Sun May 16, 2010 4:39 PM, said:


I successfully modded one of my "good" ColecoVisions with a new switch, a really cool active/standby LED and the RGB component kit. I had to resize the template to 6" in Paint Shop Pro. I did a fair amount of tweaking after I drilled the main holes too. On the full flicker set you'll notice I also accidentally removed an inducter I shouldn't have. No big loss though, the thing still works like a champ! 5-11, I'm gonna take another if they're still available. I'll PM you.

That is wickedly cool! As I'm getting ready to do my mod, I'm also thinking of picking up one of those BIOS kits. Any recommendation on where to get one? Any thing else I should stuff in there? I love your new power switch/LED combo. I must admit to a little Coleco envy. ;)

I'm going to write up a story on Retro Thing showing how much you can pimp out an old COleco, so would appreciate any advice. THanks!

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Posted Mon May 17, 2010 1:41 PM

Well that's weird. I replied to an ancient post and it ended up here. No way to delete my own post so...

This space intentionally left blank?

Edited by Madaracs, Mon May 17, 2010 2:04 PM.


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Posted Mon May 17, 2010 1:47 PM

 gulag picture radio, on Mon May 17, 2010 11:39 AM, said:

 Madaracs, on Sun May 16, 2010 4:39 PM, said:


I successfully modded one of my "good" ColecoVisions with a new switch, a really cool active/standby LED and the RGB component kit. I had to resize the template to 6" in Paint Shop Pro. I did a fair amount of tweaking after I drilled the main holes too. On the full flicker set you'll notice I also accidentally removed an inducter I shouldn't have. No big loss though, the thing still works like a champ! 5-11, I'm gonna take another if they're still available. I'll PM you.

That is wickedly cool! As I'm getting ready to do my mod, I'm also thinking of picking up one of those BIOS kits. Any recommendation on where to get one? Any thing else I should stuff in there? I love your new power switch/LED combo. I must admit to a little Coleco envy. ;)

I'm going to write up a story on Retro Thing showing how much you can pimp out an old COleco, so would appreciate any advice. THanks!

Thanks for the compliment. I'm actually working on a project right now that I want to keep hush hush until it's finished. I was inspired by Doubledown's "ColecoVision Mini mod" when researching switch problems a year ago.

I have 4 working ColecoVisions. All but one are modded. The first one can be seen here: http://www.gridcycle.com/?p=1844 I'm actually thinking of redoing that one with a different light and switch--but something about that big old chunky green lamp and industrial chrome switch just makes me happy. The thing I like about this latest mod is that the switch really looks like it belongs there. That LED is killer. PM me, we can chat 'offline.'

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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 7:48 PM

Hi everyone,

Below is version 2 of the installation instructions, with details from start to finish. Get back to me if there's any issues with this. Feel free to find your own method of installation, of course. You should be able to zoom the pictures in the pdf file to 200% to see the detail that may be missing when viewed at 100%.

The modification boards are still available for sale, of course, at $45 US, including shipping to USA/Canadian addresses.

I also have a PAL ColecoVision being mailed to me, to see how that modification will work from a technical and practical perspective. Hopefully at some point, after a trip or two across the big pond by the console, the modification will have the PAL seal of approval.

Now I can spend some more time on my next little project, for/with Retroillucid... . :)

Thanks,
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Edit: clarification

Attached Files


Edited by 5-11under, Fri May 21, 2010 7:50 PM.


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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 7:55 PM

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Now I can spend some more time on my next little project, for/with Retroillucid... . :)


Eh eh ;)
That would be a nice project btw ;) :twisted:

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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 8:23 PM

 retroillucid, on Fri May 21, 2010 7:55 PM, said:

Quote

Now I can spend some more time on my next little project, for/with Retroillucid... . :)


Eh eh ;)
That would be a nice project btw ;) :twisted:
any hints?

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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 8:25 PM

 evg2000, on Fri May 21, 2010 8:23 PM, said:

 retroillucid, on Fri May 21, 2010 7:55 PM, said:

Quote

Now I can spend some more time on my next little project, for/with Retroillucid... . :)


Eh eh ;)
That would be a nice project btw ;) :twisted:
any hints?

A CIB Release of .... .. ... .......
With save feature
A game that many (including me) have missed when it was first release in cart form

Edited by retroillucid, Fri May 21, 2010 8:27 PM.


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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 8:28 PM

 evg2000, on Fri May 21, 2010 8:23 PM, said:

 retroillucid, on Fri May 21, 2010 7:55 PM, said:

Quote

Now I can spend some more time on my next little project, for/with Retroillucid... . :)


Eh eh ;)
That would be a nice project btw ;) :twisted:
any hints?
Sorry, not at this point.
Edit: I guess I was too late posting. :) You've got your hint. Now buy component video mods to take full advantage. :)
Edit 2: LOL, Retro......., I just counted the dots. ;)

Edited by 5-11under, Fri May 21, 2010 8:31 PM.


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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 8:31 PM

Lord of the Dungeon? That was already released. Will it be different?

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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 8:33 PM

 5-11under, on Fri May 21, 2010 8:28 PM, said:

 evg2000, on Fri May 21, 2010 8:23 PM, said:

 retroillucid, on Fri May 21, 2010 7:55 PM, said:

Quote

Now I can spend some more time on my next little project, for/with Retroillucid... . :)


Eh eh ;)
That would be a nice project btw ;) :twisted:
any hints?
Sorry, not at this point.
Edit: I guess I was too late posting. :) You've got your hint. Now buy component video mods to take full advantage. :)


Yeah, buy the component video mods, they're top notch! :)
Actually, simply the best! :twisted:

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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 8:36 PM

 retroillucid, on Fri May 21, 2010 8:33 PM, said:

 5-11under, on Fri May 21, 2010 8:28 PM, said:

 evg2000, on Fri May 21, 2010 8:23 PM, said:

 retroillucid, on Fri May 21, 2010 7:55 PM, said:

Quote

Now I can spend some more time on my next little project, for/with Retroillucid... . :)


Eh eh ;)
That would be a nice project btw ;) :twisted:
any hints?
Sorry, not at this point.
Edit: I guess I was too late posting. :) You've got your hint. Now buy component video mods to take full advantage. :)


Yeah, buy the component video mods, they're top notch! :)
Actually, simply the best! :twisted:

I've got the mod, just waiting to install, hopefully in the next week or two. Have to dig out one of my extra CV, and find the dielectric grease to rebuild the switch while I have it open.

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Posted Fri May 21, 2010 11:44 PM

Okay - that docfile looks outstanding. Is there a spot on the net that lists other fixer-upper things to do while I have the unit open. Like I said, I'd really like to pimp the ol' boy out for my article. Thanks!

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Posted Sat May 22, 2010 7:11 AM

 gulag picture radio, on Fri May 21, 2010 11:44 PM, said:

Okay - that docfile looks outstanding. Is there a spot on the net that lists other fixer-upper things to do while I have the unit open. Like I said, I'd really like to pimp the ol' boy out for my article. Thanks!

Sure, there's more. Let me spend a bit of time on that... .

Thanks,
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Posted Sat May 22, 2010 10:21 AM

 5-11under, on Sat May 22, 2010 7:11 AM, said:

 gulag picture radio, on Fri May 21, 2010 11:44 PM, said:

Okay - that docfile looks outstanding. Is there a spot on the net that lists other fixer-upper things to do while I have the unit open. Like I said, I'd really like to pimp the ol' boy out for my article. Thanks!

Sure, there's more. Let me spend a bit of time on that... .

Thanks,
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Hi gulag,

I've started a thread here, for anyone to upload instructions for ColecoVision modifications:

http://www.atariage....r-colecovision/

Thanks,
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Posted Mon Jun 7, 2010 7:37 AM

 5-11under, on Tue May 11, 2010 1:49 PM, said:

I've had a couple of recent inquiries about the availability of the component video mod, so here goes...

I have at least a couple of units ready to be mailed anytime. I'd just have to do a quick re-test before mailing them. These could be mailed out within 0-2 days.

I have a handful of others that are nearly complete, just requiring minor, partial assembly, followed by testing. These could be mailed out within 1-3 days.

I have components for at least a dozen more, and plenty more circuit boards, so I can easily build more anytime. I can also purchase more parts or PCBs of course, if required. If I run low on the ready or almost ready units, I'll assemble some more. Therefore the lead-time on future units should be 1-3 days, unless a bunch of orders come in around the same time (then the lead-time might be up to a week or so).

If you're interested, they're $45 US each via PayPal, mailed to USA/Canada. Send me a PM if you'd like one.

Also...

I'm working on the last part of the instructions, to go with the first part that was uploaded a week or so ago. Look for that soon.

Thanks,
5-11under

Hey 5-11 Do you have any left ? I have a PAL CV and would love to get my hands on one of these boards .

Cheers

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Posted Mon Jun 7, 2010 8:21 AM

 Kakaboy, on Mon Jun 7, 2010 7:37 AM, said:

Hey 5-11 Do you have any left ? I have a PAL CV and would love to get my hands on one of these boards .
Cheers
Hi Kakaboy,

First of all, welcome to AtariAge.

As far as the component video modification goes, yes, I have some ready to be shipped. Send me a PM with the country you're located in, if you'd like one.

I was working on getting a PAL unit to modify, but that didn't work out. The mod should work with one, but this hasn't been verified yet, and the instructions for a PAL unit are incomplete. I can either sell you a mod, or you can send me the unit (without power supplies and without controllers) and I'll modify it for you. Send me a PM if you're interested.

By the way, any future orders of the video mod will come with the video test "cartridge" included for free (PCB without the housing - you'll have to sacrifice a DK or similar housing or just use the bare board). I think there's one or two out there that don't have this - send me a PM if you're one of them.

Thanks,
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Posted Mon Jun 7, 2010 8:53 AM

I have finally mounted my mod board using the instructions and it looks great. Had some problem drilling the larger holes - the only drills I had at the time had brad points and they just kept getting stuck in the thick plastic due to the way that they almost try and drill the entire hole in one go. Bought some standard twist drills (I think they were 135 degree) and they worked perfectly - drilled the larger holes using five progressively larger drills - 1/16";1/8";1/4";5/16";11/32" (the last one could be a 3/8" if you need a gap to accomodate a RCA ground ring). I would suggest stating in the instructions to not use brad point drills.

5-11under: Not sure if you're thinking of ever producing a second revision of your mod board but I do have one suggestion for improvement if you do. I'd like to see the wires connecting to the board via a Molex connector. This avoids the problem of wires breaking off of the board due to bending as happened to me. Plus this would allow the CV cases to be kept completely apart, e.g. for other work, without having to unscrew the mod board and having it flapping around.

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Posted Mon Jun 7, 2010 1:11 PM

 5-11under, on Mon Jun 7, 2010 8:21 AM, said:

 Kakaboy, on Mon Jun 7, 2010 7:37 AM, said:

Hey 5-11 Do you have any left ? I have a PAL CV and would love to get my hands on one of these boards .
Cheers
Hi Kakaboy,

First of all, welcome to AtariAge.

As far as the component video modification goes, yes, I have some ready to be shipped. Send me a PM with the country you're located in, if you'd like one.

I was working on getting a PAL unit to modify, but that didn't work out. The mod should work with one, but this hasn't been verified yet, and the instructions for a PAL unit are incomplete. I can either sell you a mod, or you can send me the unit (without power supplies and without controllers) and I'll modify it for you. Send me a PM if you're interested.

By the way, any future orders of the video mod will come with the video test "cartridge" included for free (PCB without the housing - you'll have to sacrifice a DK or similar housing or just use the bare board). I think there's one or two out there that don't have this - send me a PM if you're one of them.

Thanks,
5-11under

Is the video test cartridge program a public domain program or is it a commercial release specially designed for the component video modification? The reason I am asking is I wanted to suggest that if the program you made is public domain that you could post a link where people can go to download the rom image. There are many people that own the Atarimax 128 - in - 1 Colecovision flash multicart and they could use that product to play the video test rom image.

Edited by HDTV1080P, Mon Jun 7, 2010 1:12 PM.


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Posted Mon Jun 7, 2010 1:30 PM

 HDTV1080P, on Mon Jun 7, 2010 1:11 PM, said:

Is the video test cartridge program a public domain program or is it a commercial release specially designed for the component video modification? The reason I am asking is I wanted to suggest that if the program you made is public domain that you could post a link where people can go to download the rom image. There are many people that own the Atarimax 128 - in - 1 Colecovision flash multicart and they could use that product to play the video test rom image.
The ROM is available at Post 55 of this thread. It's just a little program I made to show all of the colors on the screen at the same time, in blocks large enough so you can easily see the them. You can even make 64 x 48 works of art.

Thanks,
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Posted Mon Jun 7, 2010 4:27 PM

 HDTV1080P, on Mon Jun 7, 2010 1:11 PM, said:

 5-11under, on Mon Jun 7, 2010 8:21 AM, said:

 Kakaboy, on Mon Jun 7, 2010 7:37 AM, said:

Hey 5-11 Do you have any left ? I have a PAL CV and would love to get my hands on one of these boards .
Cheers
Hi Kakaboy,

First of all, welcome to AtariAge.

As far as the component video modification goes, yes, I have some ready to be shipped. Send me a PM with the country you're located in, if you'd like one.

I was working on getting a PAL unit to modify, but that didn't work out. The mod should work with one, but this hasn't been verified yet, and the instructions for a PAL unit are incomplete. I can either sell you a mod, or you can send me the unit (without power supplies and without controllers) and I'll modify it for you. Send me a PM if you're interested.

By the way, any future orders of the video mod will come with the video test "cartridge" included for free (PCB without the housing - you'll have to sacrifice a DK or similar housing or just use the bare board). I think there's one or two out there that don't have this - send me a PM if you're one of them.

Thanks,
5-11under

Is the video test cartridge program a public domain program or is it a commercial release specially designed for the component video modification? The reason I am asking is I wanted to suggest that if the program you made is public domain that you could post a link where people can go to download the rom image. There are many people that own the Atarimax 128 - in - 1 Colecovision flash multicart and they could use that product to play the video test rom image.

Atarimax cart sounds great ! My frogger cart is not working properly as he keeps dieing everytime he touched the road :( . I looked at the PCB and the ceramic cap is only soldered on one end cant see where the other end goes or even if thats my problem .
But Atarimax shoule get me out of trouble with these problem carts not working :)

Cheers




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