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[Draugr]

Hello Everyone.

I have a quick question on Colecovision ROMS from the newer games that were released by homebrew authors like Opcode Games. I own both their Space Invaders Collection and Sky Jaguar. My CV is an original unmodded system. As I'm sure you all know the visual quality is crap from the RF. When it comes to the CV, I primarily play the games on my PC using an emulator. I have about 80 original/physical game carts including "Lord of the Dungeon", and the above mentioned titles. While I have roms for the old games, I don't have any for the two Opcode games I mentioned above. Last night I went to Opcode games website and saw that their Pac-Man Collection is for sale. I decided I'd like to pick that game up as well as the three others that I don't already have. The problem is that while it will be great to have the physical games in my possession, I won't get much use out of them because I rarely play my real CV. I thought about purchasing a A/V mod, but I'd rather save that money and put it towards a custom bartop arcade cabinet. I spoke with the designer at Emdkay.com and they are making me an arcade bartop cabinet now. When that is done I asked about possibly making a bartop replication of the original Colecovision kiosk. The designer loved the idea and we will discuss it more once my current cabinet is completed. The bartop kiosk would use a mini PC though like the arcade bartop cabinet and that would use a CV emulator and roms. While I'd have the physical items from Opcode games, I wouldn't have the roms to actually play those games on my bartop kiosk/ pc. I wanted to ask if anyone here might know if Opcode gives out Roms of their games when you purchase the physical items from their site? I know there are a few groups that sell homebrew software/games for computers like the C64 and they include a rom/d64 of the game when you purchase a physical copy from them. I'm hoping Opcode might do something similar. Before I purchase the games I don't already have from Opcode, I wanted to know if they do include a rom of the games that you purchase. The two games I already have I picked up at conventions and not from Opcode directly.

Any info is appreciated.

John

[retroillucid]

Draugr, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:57 PM, said:

Hello Everyone.

I have a quick question on Colecovision ROMS from the newer games that were released by homebrew authors like Opcode Games. I own both their Space Invaders Collection and Sky Jaguar. My CV is an original unmodded system. As I'm sure you all know the visual quality is crap from the RF. When it comes to the CV, I primarily play the games on my PC using an emulator. I have about 80 original/physical game carts including "Lord of the Dungeon", and the above mentioned titles. While I have roms for the old games, I don't have any for the two Opcode games I mentioned above. Last night I went to Opcode games website and saw that their Pac-Man Collection is for sale. I decided I'd like to pick that game up as well as the three others that I don't already have. The problem is that while it will be great to have the physical games in my possession, I won't get much use out of them because I rarely play my real CV. I thought about purchasing a A/V mod, but I'd rather save that money and put it towards a custom bartop arcade cabinet. I spoke with the designer at Emdkay.com and they are making me an arcade bartop cabinet now. When that is done I asked about possibly making a bartop replication of the original Colecovision kiosk. The designer loved the idea and we will discuss it more once my current cabinet is completed. The bartop kiosk would use a mini PC though like the arcade bartop cabinet and that would use a CV emulator and roms. While I'd have the physical items from Opcode games, I wouldn't have the roms to actually play those games on my bartop kiosk/ pc. I wanted to ask if anyone here might know if Opcode gives out Roms of their games when you purchase the physical items from their site? I know there are a few groups that sell homebrew software/games for computers like the C64 and they include a rom/d64 of the game when you purchase a physical copy from them. I'm hoping Opcode might do something similar. Before I purchase the games I don't already have from Opcode, I wanted to know if they do include a rom of the games that you purchase. The two games I already have I picked up at conventions and not from Opcode directly.

Any info is appreciated.

John

I already think about making a Bartop based on the CV Kiosk
I made some graphics for marquee and side art.. as well as Kick plate...

Right now, I've buy parts for making a NES Bartop
The control panel is a "huge" original NES controller

... as for distributing ROM file with a purchased physical homebrew... humm...
I like the idea!
Actually, many people like to play their game via emulation/arcade cab
For me its all about playing them on the real thing but I do enjoy emulation on arcade cab alot actually

You've a good point, I think we should think about this...

[Draugr]

retroillucid, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:53 PM, said:

Draugr, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:57 PM, said:

Hello Everyone.

I have a quick question on Colecovision ROMS from the newer games that were released by homebrew authors like Opcode Games. I own both their Space Invaders Collection and Sky Jaguar. My CV is an original unmodded system. As I'm sure you all know the visual quality is crap from the RF. When it comes to the CV, I primarily play the games on my PC using an emulator. I have about 80 original/physical game carts including "Lord of the Dungeon", and the above mentioned titles. While I have roms for the old games, I don't have any for the two Opcode games I mentioned above. Last night I went to Opcode games website and saw that their Pac-Man Collection is for sale. I decided I'd like to pick that game up as well as the three others that I don't already have. The problem is that while it will be great to have the physical games in my possession, I won't get much use out of them because I rarely play my real CV. I thought about purchasing a A/V mod, but I'd rather save that money and put it towards a custom bartop arcade cabinet. I spoke with the designer at Emdkay.com and they are making me an arcade bartop cabinet now. When that is done I asked about possibly making a bartop replication of the original Colecovision kiosk. The designer loved the idea and we will discuss it more once my current cabinet is completed. The bartop kiosk would use a mini PC though like the arcade bartop cabinet and that would use a CV emulator and roms. While I'd have the physical items from Opcode games, I wouldn't have the roms to actually play those games on my bartop kiosk/ pc. I wanted to ask if anyone here might know if Opcode gives out Roms of their games when you purchase the physical items from their site? I know there are a few groups that sell homebrew software/games for computers like the C64 and they include a rom/d64 of the game when you purchase a physical copy from them. I'm hoping Opcode might do something similar. Before I purchase the games I don't already have from Opcode, I wanted to know if they do include a rom of the games that you purchase. The two games I already have I picked up at conventions and not from Opcode directly.

Any info is appreciated.

John

I already think about making a Bartop based on the CV Kiosk
I made some graphics for marquee and side art.. as well as Kick plate...

Right now, I've buy parts for making a NES Bartop
The control panel is a "huge" original NES controller

... as for distributing ROM file with a purchased physical homebrew... humm...
I like the idea!
Actually, many people like to play their game via emulation/arcade cab
For me its all about playing them on the real thing but I do enjoy emulation on arcade cab alot actually

You've a good point, I think we should think about this...

Hello

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought about such an idea (Colecovision Bartop Kiosk). The artwork you are making, is it similar to the original kiosk? I'm hoping that when we get to build our bartop kiosk we will have artwork that matches the original as closely as possible, although I'm going to ask the designer about some sort of removable artwork for the front kick plate. Would be neat if you could just remove the original look of the glass doors with the old game boxes and perhaps swap it with a similar looking art piece that may have more modern box cover art like the art from Opcode's CV boxes.


As for the roms, I'd love to learn that Opcode Games does the same thing as those Commodore 64 homebrew companies that sell you the physical item and then give you the rom/d64 for emulation play as well.

John

[retroillucid]

Quote

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought about such an idea (Colecovision Bartop Kiosk). The artwork you are making, is it similar to the original kiosk?

The artworks I made is reproduction of those on the real CV Kiosk
They've been made to match the real one the closest as possible


----

Publishing games myself (CollectorVision) , I already think about giving a mini-cdrom with purchased games...
Maybe this will be in member section on our website

[Murph74]

Most of the Opcode Roms are NOT available at this time from what I've seen. (I've asked too, as I use the Atari Max Multi cart, and a Mame Cabinet for most of my playing.) Although, if you search these forums, the Space Invaders Collection ROM was up here a while back.

EDIT: here's the link for the lazy or unsearching.
http://www.atariage....lection-thread/

Sky Jaguar ROM is up too, but I'll let you find that one for yourselves.

Edited by Murph74, Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:45 PM.

[gavvv]

Murph74, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:40 PM, said:

Most of the Opcode Roms are NOT available at this time from what I've seen. (I've asked too, as I use the Atari Max Multi cart, and a Mame Cabinet for most of my playing.) Although, if you search these forums, the Space Invaders Collection ROM was up here a while back.

EDIT: here's the link for the lazy or unsearching.
http://www.atariage....lection-thread/

Sky Jaguar ROM is up too, but I'll let you find that one for yourselves.

btw, is there a working Zenji cv rom out there somewhere? I own the cart but haven't seen one (rom) out there that wasn't corrupt.

gavv

[youki]

I think you can play with the real cartridge on a PC via emulator.

I saw somewhere on the net, a cartrige port connected to an USB (or parallal) cable . And the emulator read directly the cartridge .

I'm sure it exists for NES, and i think the project was about other console including CV.

[retroillucid]

youki, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:14 AM, said:

I think you can play with the real cartridge on a PC via emulator.

I saw somewhere on the net, a cartrige port connected to an USB (or parallal) cable . And the emulator read directly the cartridge .

I'm sure it exists for NES, and i think the project was about other console including CV.

Really?

You can plug a cartridge port onto usb then read the cart on emulator ... ??

I never heard of that, I would be pretty much interest to get this!

[Ikrananka]

gavvv, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:28 AM, said:

Murph74, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:40 PM, said:

Most of the Opcode Roms are NOT available at this time from what I've seen. (I've asked too, as I use the Atari Max Multi cart, and a Mame Cabinet for most of my playing.) Although, if you search these forums, the Space Invaders Collection ROM was up here a while back.

EDIT: here's the link for the lazy or unsearching.
http://www.atariage....lection-thread/

Sky Jaguar ROM is up too, but I'll let you find that one for yourselves.

btw, is there a working Zenji cv rom out there somewhere? I own the cart but haven't seen one (rom) out there that wasn't corrupt.

gavv

Is the issue that the fire buttons don't rotate the section the face is on?

I can dump one of my carts and see if a direct cart dump is any different in behaviour to the rom already out there.

[Ikrananka]

retroillucid, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:45 AM, said:

youki, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:14 AM, said:

I think you can play with the real cartridge on a PC via emulator.

I saw somewhere on the net, a cartrige port connected to an USB (or parallal) cable . And the emulator read directly the cartridge .

I'm sure it exists for NES, and i think the project was about other console including CV.

Really?

You can plug a cartridge port onto usb then read the cart on emulator ... ??

I never heard of that, I would be pretty much interest to get this!

Or is this the USB cart dumper that we have?

[retroillucid]

Ikrananka, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:56 AM, said:

retroillucid, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:45 AM, said:

youki, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:14 AM, said:

I think you can play with the real cartridge on a PC via emulator.

I saw somewhere on the net, a cartrige port connected to an USB (or parallal) cable . And the emulator read directly the cartridge .

I'm sure it exists for NES, and i think the project was about other console including CV.

Really?

You can plug a cartridge port onto usb then read the cart on emulator ... ??

I never heard of that, I would be pretty much interest to get this!

Or is this the USB cart dumper that we have?

You think our CV Cartridge Dumper can play cartridge via emulator?
Hum
That would be awesome!

[Ikrananka]

retroillucid, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:57 AM, said:

Ikrananka, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:56 AM, said:

retroillucid, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:45 AM, said:

youki, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:14 AM, said:

I think you can play with the real cartridge on a PC via emulator.

I saw somewhere on the net, a cartrige port connected to an USB (or parallal) cable . And the emulator read directly the cartridge .

I'm sure it exists for NES, and i think the project was about other console including CV.

Really?

You can plug a cartridge port onto usb then read the cart on emulator ... ??

I never heard of that, I would be pretty much interest to get this!

Or is this the USB cart dumper that we have?

You think our CV Cartridge Dumper can play cartridge via emulator?
Hum
That would be awesome!

No - I was wondering if what youki had seen was infact our USB cart dumper.

[youki]

In fact that is exactly that (here for the SNES) .

[Ikrananka]

youki, on Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:00 AM, said:

In fact that is exactly that (here for the SNES) .

Cool youki, thanks for the info - the official website for this is here. There is also an Atari 2600 adapter here, but unfortunately no ColecoVision adapter yet.

[gavvv]

Ikrananka, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:55 AM, said:

gavvv, on Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:28 AM, said:

Murph74, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:40 PM, said:

Most of the Opcode Roms are NOT available at this time from what I've seen. (I've asked too, as I use the Atari Max Multi cart, and a Mame Cabinet for most of my playing.) Although, if you search these forums, the Space Invaders Collection ROM was up here a while back.

EDIT: here's the link for the lazy or unsearching.
http://www.atariage....lection-thread/

Sky Jaguar ROM is up too, but I'll let you find that one for yourselves.

btw, is there a working Zenji cv rom out there somewhere? I own the cart but haven't seen one (rom) out there that wasn't corrupt.

gavv

Is the issue that the fire buttons don't rotate the section the face is on?

I can dump one of my carts and see if a direct cart dump is any different in behaviour to the rom already out there.

actually i never found one that would even launch at all

gavv

[Matthias_H]

Ikrananka, on Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:34 AM, said:

youki, on Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:00 AM, said:

In fact that is exactly that (here for the SNES) .

Cool youki, thanks for the info - the official website for this is here. There is also an Atari 2600 adapter here, but unfortunately no ColecoVision adapter yet.

Hi, I sent you an e-mail a couple of days ago. If you're interested in contributing a ColecoVision adapter for the Retrode, I'll be more than happy to help you.

Edited by Matthias_H, Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:22 AM.

[Murph74]

Well, the Retrode 2 Pre-Order email went out today. Any further word on Colecovision support, guys?

[Yurkie]

Murph74, on Thu Jun 9, 2011 2:40 PM, said:

Well, the Retrode 2 Pre-Order email went out today. Any further word on Colecovision support, guys?

I think it would be a big mistake to make a cabinet and put an emulator in it. I say mod or get the CV modded and put it in the cabinet.

[Murph74]

Has nothing to do with cabinet for me-- I want to use it as a Rom dumper for some of the games I have!

Edited by Murph74, Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:45 AM.

[Yurkie]

Murph74, on Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:44 AM, said:

Has nothing to do with cabinet for me-- I want to use it as a Rom dumper for some of the games I have!

I didn't mean to quote you Murph, I was talking about the guy making an Bartop Arcade and putting a computer in it...instead of an actual CV.

What's the guy need a cart slot off a CV motherboard? I can send one.

[Murph74]

Naw, I think it's a matter of making an adapter board that reroutes the traces to properly read the Colecovision cartridge. From what I'm told, the Atari 2600 is already supported via adapter, so it shouldn't be far behind for ColecoVision is my hope. The trickier part will be seeing if the controller ports get supported I think- the controller ports kind of make it a stelladaptor type device as well.

I also get the bartop idea. While a dedicated CV would be the 'simple' way to go about it, the emulation configuration would make it much more versatile for multiple systems, mp3's, videos, net kiosk, etc. There is something modernly cool about a multi-function machine with a colecovision theme and a functioning ColecoVision port.

[Yurkie]

Murph74, on Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:47 PM, said:

Naw, I think it's a matter of making an adapter board that reroutes the traces to properly read the Colecovision cartridge. From what I'm told, the Atari 2600 is already supported via adapter, so it shouldn't be far behind for ColecoVision is my hope. The trickier part will be seeing if the controller ports get supported I think- the controller ports kind of make it a stelladaptor type device as well.

I also get the bartop idea. While a dedicated CV would be the 'simple' way to go about it, the emulation configuration would make it much more versatile for multiple systems, mp3's, videos, net kiosk, etc. There is something modernly cool about a multi-function machine with a colecovision theme and a functioning ColecoVision port.

It wouldn't be hard to put a computer and a CV board both inside the housing and have them both connected and make them switchable. You could even have them both running and switch the video feed to the screen. A ColecoVision themed bartop running a ColecoVision emulator would suck balls IMO.

[retroillucid]

Yurkie, on Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:34 PM, said:

... A ColecoVision themed bartop running a ColecoVision emulator would suck balls IMO.

In my opinion too!

Let's face it, the CV motherboard is almost an Arcade board, just plug in it a SD cartridge and you're ready to play alot of arcade games!


My CV Bartop is at 75% done, I need to paint it, put the CV motherboard in place, and wired arcade controllers
I'll sure post a pic when done

[jerry32]

Draugr, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:57 PM, said:

Hello Everyone.

I have a quick question on Colecovision ROMS from the newer games that were released by homebrew authors like Opcode Games. I own both their Space Invaders Collection and Sky Jaguar. My CV is an original unmodded system. As I'm sure you all know the visual quality is crap from the RF. When it comes to the CV, I primarily play the games on my PC using an emulator. I have about 80 original/physical game carts including "Lord of the Dungeon", and the above mentioned titles. While I have roms for the old games, I don't have any for the two Opcode games I mentioned above. Last night I went to Opcode games website and saw that their Pac-Man Collection is for sale. I decided I'd like to pick that game up as well as the three others that I don't already have. The problem is that while it will be great to have the physical games in my possession, I won't get much use out of them because I rarely play my real CV. I thought about purchasing a A/V mod, but I'd rather save that money and put it towards a custom bartop arcade cabinet. I spoke with the designer at Emdkay.com and they are making me an arcade bartop cabinet now. When that is done I asked about possibly making a bartop replication of the original Colecovision kiosk. The designer loved the idea and we will discuss it more once my current cabinet is completed. The bartop kiosk would use a mini PC though like the arcade bartop cabinet and that would use a CV emulator and roms. While I'd have the physical items from Opcode games, I wouldn't have the roms to actually play those games on my bartop kiosk/ pc. I wanted to ask if anyone here might know if Opcode gives out Roms of their games when you purchase the physical items from their site? I know there are a few groups that sell homebrew software/games for computers like the C64 and they include a rom/d64 of the game when you purchase a physical copy from them. I'm hoping Opcode might do something similar. Before I purchase the games I don't already have from Opcode, I wanted to know if they do include a rom of the games that you purchase. The two games I already have I picked up at conventions and not from Opcode directly.

Any info is appreciated.

John

[jerry32]

jerry32, on Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:51 PM, said:

Draugr, on Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:57 PM, said:

Hello Everyone.

I have a quick question on Colecovision ROMS from the newer games that were released by homebrew authors like Opcode Games. I own both their Space Invaders Collection and Sky Jaguar. My CV is an original unmodded system. As I'm sure you all know the visual quality is crap from the RF. When it comes to the CV, I primarily play the games on my PC using an emulator. I have about 80 original/physical game carts including "Lord of the Dungeon", and the above mentioned titles. While I have roms for the old games, I don't have any for the two Opcode games I mentioned above. Last night I went to Opcode games website and saw that their Pac-Man Collection is for sale. I decided I'd like to pick that game up as well as the three others that I don't already have. The problem is that while it will be great to have the physical games in my possession, I won't get much use out of them because I rarely play my real CV. I thought about purchasing a A/V mod, but I'd rather save that money and put it towards a custom bartop arcade cabinet. I spoke with the designer at Emdkay.com and they are making me an arcade bartop cabinet now. When that is done I asked about possibly making a bartop replication of the original Colecovision kiosk. The designer loved the idea and we will discuss it more once my current cabinet is completed. The bartop kiosk would use a mini PC though like the arcade bartop cabinet and that would use a CV emulator and roms. While I'd have the physical items from Opcode games, I wouldn't have the roms to actually play those games on my bartop kiosk/ pc. I wanted to ask if anyone here might know if Opcode gives out Roms of their games when you purchase the physical items from their site? I know there are a few groups that sell homebrew software/games for computers like the C64 and they include a rom/d64 of the game when you purchase a physical copy from them. I'm hoping Opcode might do something similar. Before I purchase the games I don't already have from Opcode, I wanted to know if they do include a rom of the games that you purchase. The two games I already have I picked up at conventions and not from Opcode directly.

Any info is appreciated.

John

hey John sorry i cannot help you with your problem ....But maybe you can help me with mine i need to download a good cv emu any help is greatly appricated