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[RangerG]

I seem to find NES Wisdom Tree (religious/Christian) titles frequently and they are listed as pretty scarce/rare for NES. I have picked up nine in the past few months now that I know to look for them. I bet they are found more frequently here in the Bible Belt. Does my theory hold? Do you New England/out West classic gamers find very many Wisdom Tree titles? How about all you Southern Baptists in Texas and South Carolina and Lower Alabama (the real L.A.) are you swimming in Wisdom Tree titles?

[King Atari]

Don't know about those places, but I find them often enough at Funco here, usually pretty cheap, too.

[jhd]

How were widely were these distributed, originally?

I never had an NES console when they were new, but I don't remember ever seeing Wisdom Tree (or any other Religious-type) games for sale outside of speciality Religious bookstores.

For that matter, was the Atari 2600 game Music Machine sold outside of religious bookstores?

[MattG/Snyper2099]

I am a collector of unliscensed NES games and not all of the "Bible games" are easy to find. I would say that Bible Buffet and Sunday Funday are the two hardest "Bible Games" to come by, in the Midwest anyway. Try to find them all complete though. Now that is a challenge! I think that Bible Adventures and King of Kings are fairly easy to come by. But, certainly not as common as most liscensed NES games. The production numbers of all the Bibles games were very low comparred to most liscensed NES games. Also, they were only available in Christian book stores UNLESS you ordered them directly from Color Dreams INC. An interesting note is that I do remember seeing some of these games at a Blockbuster video back in the early 90's.
kudos,
MattG.

[Lemmi]

I have all of the bible games
and 5 of them i have sealed

Spiritual Warfare
Bible Buffet
Exodus
Joshua : The Battle of Jericho
King of Kings

and Sunday Funday is the only one i have thats missing the manual

All came from Michigan

[StanJr]

I can't help but buy EVERY Wisdom Tree game I see (and here I see a LOT), even if I already have 3 or it (Bible Adventures), simply because I love to snicker at their absurd powder blue cart casings and the thought of some little Rod and Todd Flanders-like kids out there who got THESE games instead of Legend of Zelda! HA! And around here the MOST I have ever paid for one is $3.

Wisdom Tree, ha, even the name is silly.

[oesii]

I don't think they are as rare as they are listed in some guides. I've only been hunting/collecting NES for a month and I've already run into Bible Adventures and Joshua for about $3 each in two different thrifts.

[broncoman]

i think they were made here in arizona a town called tucson 100 miles to the south but im not sure

[RangerG]

I'm with you StanJr. I love to buy them when I see them -- the greatest irony is that these Christian titles are completely unlicensed/quasi illegal titles (am I correct?)

[Ze_ro]

StanJr said:

I love to snicker at their absurd powder blue cart casings

Powder blue? I remember seeing a copy of Bible Buffet here in Canada, and the cartridge was black... I didn't buy it, since I'm generally anti-NES, but for $5, I probably should have.

--Zero

[Gunstar]

http://www.christian...m/media/wisdom/

They are still in business an all of their games can be found at the site above...

[MegaManFan]

Essentially the same company, they just found God and changed the name (Sunday Funday was originally a very lewd game before a remake, SeanBaby's site had a great expose on this). The Color Dreams games I've found have always been powder blue, but the Wisdom Tree ones I've found have always been solid black.

[-^Cro§Bow^-]

Exodus and Bible Buffet I see all the time in the Black cases. I can't recall seeing them in blue though I have heard of them being in blue. Personally,

I have passed on them every time I see them. I am not just a collector for tend to play a huge majority of the stuff I actually collect. For me these games aren't fun to begin with so they would be strictly limited to conversation pieces and even then...very short conversation.

Just not worth anything to me...

[seizurebot1011]

i have a blue and black bible adventures
along with both lable variations on king of kings the early years
but sunday funday is still missing from my collection
i would sell my soul for that game

[moycon]

Would you really sell your soul to the devil to get your hands on a religious themed game??? Now that is weird.... Maybe the two would cancel each other out??

[Ze_ro]

-^Cro§Bow^- said:

For me these games aren't fun to begin with so they would be strictly limited to conversation pieces and even then...very short conversation.

Agreed. I've passed on a number of rarities because of this. Although it's nice to have stuff like this, if I know I'm not going to play it even once, or even do anything constructive with it, then why bother paying for it?

--Zero

[Lemmi]

Ze_ro said:

-^Cro§Bow^- said:

For me these games aren't fun to begin with so they would be strictly limited to conversation pieces and even then...very short conversation.

Agreed. I've passed on a number of rarities because of this. Although it's nice to have stuff like this, if I know I'm not going to play it even once, or even do anything constructive with it, then why bother paying for it?

--Zero

Well if you could get 5 of them sealed for $4 each what would you do then?

[Ze_ro]

Lemmi said:

Well if you could get 5 of them sealed for $4 each what would you do then?

Well, like I always say... when life gives you boxed video games, make boxed-video-game-ade!

--Zero

[somePUNK]

i don't how rare they are but up here in canada i have only come across one nd that was when i was 6 and i remeber this becuse i rent4ed it quit often seeing as how it was the only place open sunday to rent from was achurch store so i rented it quit often i belive it was sunday funday

[Video_Game_Bible]

Just a few things real quick...the Wisdom Tree titles are most definately more common in the South, simply because it is the Bible Belt (as someone has already pointed out). This doesn't mean that they're not available in the North or the West, simply that there are more of them here.

Yes, Sunday Funday and Bible Buffet are the two most difficult to find.

Yes, there are cart color variations for most of the games, and King of Kings has 2 completely different lables (changed for an amusing reason).

Yes, most of them suck, but Spiritual Warfare has always been my favorite of the bunch.

The games are still listed on the Wisdom Tree site, but all of my attempts to contact them concerning their stock have resulted in no reply...so it's doubtful that they still have any in stock (actually more probable that they have them somewhere, but nobody remembers where...hehe).

And finally, the largest run of a Wisdom Tree title that we've confirmed is 300,000 copies (Bible Adventures). And damned if that isn't a whole bunch of those little plastic pieces of crap floating around (considering the type of game that it is).

And lastly, Wisdom Tree never did receive permission from Nintendo to produce these games. Every single unlicensed NES game producer was sued by Nintendo...with the one exception of Wisdom Tree. Nintendo thought it would hurt their family image if they took a religious company to court.

I think that's about it.

[Nukey Shay]

Bible Adventures crap? I dunno...it was kinda fun chucking baby Moses around

Thou shalt tosseth the holy one toward thy foe
-ludicrous 5:150

[King Atari]

Nintendo sued everybody except Wisdom Tree? What about the makers of Chiller?

[somePUNK]

hell didn't nintendo help in the making of nohas ark 3d for super i though they lent them something for wolfinstian 3d like the code or soimething

[Video_Game_Bible]

Noah's Ark (Super 3-D type) for the SNES is the only unofficial release for the SNES in the U.S. You're probably thinking of them securing the rights to the use of the Wolfenstein engine and a lot of the actual game. The only real changes were that the Nazi banners were taken down and the guards were replaced with animals that you had to toss food at.

[MegaManFan]

Video_Game_Bible said:

Noah's Ark (Super 3-D type) for the SNES is the only unofficial release for the SNES in the U.S.  You're probably thinking of them securing the rights to the use of the Wolfenstein engine and a lot of the actual game.  The only real changes were that the Nazi banners were taken down and the guards were replaced with animals that you had to toss food at.

I hope I'm not the only one who think that's incredibly sad.