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[theloon]

Back a few years before I was interested I SWORE I SAW a 2600 ROM for the prototype 2600 version of Treasure of Tarmin. A few years later I swore I saw a Youtube video of the 2600 version. Even thought I saw a link to the Youtube video here at AtariAge.

The kidscentre.com thinks they have the ROM (but they don't)

Chris Ware from associated content thinks that a ROM is out there:
http://www.associate...and.html?cat=19

Did the ROM exist? Did the Men in Black wipe Youtubes memory of all 2600 Tarmin videos? Am I tottaly going coo coo for Cocoa Puffs?

[Wickeycolumbus]

The ROM is not available to the general public. Not sure about the Youtube video, but I've never heard of it.

[CPUWIZ]

BSR are sitting on the ROM, due to paranoia.

[iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin]

CPUWIZ, on Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:58 PM, said:

BSR are sitting on the ROM, due to paranoia.

The Blue Star Rangers should release it................

[CPUWIZ]

Nicht Stern, Himmel.

[iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin]

CPUWIZ, on Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:52 PM, said:

Nicht Stern, Himmel.

Sky.......I know......

[Godzilla]

maybe we will get lucky and someone will make a dumpster find one day... bsrs can't be the only one can it?

[theloon]

Well, from all the screenshots I've seen Batari BASIC can %90 percent replicate the prototypes graphics. I'd bet that someone recreates it first.

* Multi sprite kernel use
* Playfield pixels for side walls
* Secondary sprite for wall up ahead (quad-sized)
* Primary sprite for close monster (double-sized)
* Score mini-kernel with additional characters for 18/080 display
* Secondary sprites for E (direction) and bow icon.. maybe 06 display too
if sprites can be put on separate scanlines
* One more secondary sprite for thrown objects

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Edited by theloon, Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:17 PM.

[Rom Hunter]

theloon, on Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:13 PM, said:

Well, from all the screenshots I've seen Batari BASIC can %90 percent replicate the prototypes graphics. I'd bet that someone recreates it first.

* Multi sprite kernel use
* Playfield pixels for side walls
* Secondary sprite for wall up ahead (quad-sized)
* Primary sprite for close monster (double-sized)
* Score mini-kernel with additional characters for 18/080 display
* Secondary sprites for E (direction) and bow icon.. maybe 06 display too
if sprites can be put on separate scanlines
* One more secondary sprite for thrown objects

Why?

It already exists and I don't think the BSR will be too happy about it (let alone WotC).

Better take one that's (still) vapourware.

Edited by Rom Hunter, Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:58 AM.

[theloon]

Rom Hunter, on Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:55 AM, said:

theloon, on Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:13 PM, said:

Well, from all the screenshots I've seen Batari BASIC can %90 percent replicate the prototypes graphics. I'd bet that someone recreates it first.

* Multi sprite kernel use
* Playfield pixels for side walls
* Secondary sprite for wall up ahead (quad-sized)
* Primary sprite for close monster (double-sized)
* Score mini-kernel with additional characters for 18/080 display
* Secondary sprites for E (direction) and bow icon.. maybe 06 display too
if sprites can be put on separate scanlines
* One more secondary sprite for thrown objects

Why?

It already exists and I don't think the BSR will be too happy about it (let alone WotC).

Better take one that's (still) vapourware.

You mean Tower of Mystery?
http://www.atariprot...erofmystery.htm

[Rom Hunter]

Both exist, so why re-create one?

[Godzilla]

because if it is indeed one a kind, hoarded and will never see the light of day, then it may as well never exist. so the bb proposal is > nothing.

[thegoldenband]

I still don't really understand the issue here. Wouldn't it be relatively trivial to remove all traces of the D&D brand name from these unreleased ROMs? I can't imagine that Wizards of the Coast has any IP rights over the gameplay, graphics, etc. in these titles -- it's just the AD&D name, and maybe the associated subheadings (Tarmin, Tower of Mystery).

The BSR were able to release all three D&D ROMs for Intellivision, in alternate versions with alternate names, on Intellivision Lives! I can't imagine that the VCS versions would have more D&D-specific text in them. I'm sure there are other reasons not to release these ROMs -- time, energy, etc. -- but the legal reasoning has never made sense to me.

Edited by thegoldenband, Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:06 PM.

[theloon]

Rom Hunter, on Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:44 AM, said:

Both exist, so why re-create one?

I was trying to guess which games you meant by "vaporware".

Please! Elaborate! I'm really curious

[Rom Hunter]

Oh, there are tons of them.

Just pick one here (tip of the iceberg, btw - a lot of these titles were WIP and thus not really vaporware) and start brewing:
http://www.atariprot...0/2600rumor.htm

Edited by Rom Hunter, Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:49 PM.