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#1 Clint Thompson OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:05 AM

I don't come around here very often anymore but... I bare goodies. ;)

In short, found an old video disc and managed to get it to play in some set top dvd player.
(Special thanks to Gaz for the disc 6 years ago)

Here for your viewing pleasures, enjoy:

Livewire Video

#2 Sauron ONLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:15 AM

Very nice! Thanks for uploading that! I've never seen the game in action before, it's a shame it never made the rounds. Looks pretty impressive.

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:33 AM

View PostSauron, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:15 AM, said:

Very nice! Thanks for uploading that! I've never seen the game in action before, it's a shame it never made the rounds. Looks pretty impressive.
That does indeed look pretty cool but your camerawork makes it unwatchable.

Get yourself an easycap usb stick, only about £5 from ebay including postage, it'll do a much better job than a mobile phone held up (shakily) to a tv.

#4 Clint Thompson OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:31 AM

View PostTyrant, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:33 AM, said:

View PostSauron, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:15 AM, said:

Very nice! Thanks for uploading that! I've never seen the game in action before, it's a shame it never made the rounds. Looks pretty impressive.
That does indeed look pretty cool but your camerawork makes it unwatchable.

Get yourself an easycap usb stick, only about £5 from ebay including postage, it'll do a much better job than a mobile phone held up (shakily) to a tv.

There's no way around it... I'm using an HD Kodak camera, it is the quality of the video itself from the cd (which is actually VCD), aside from my moving around a'bit at first to get situated. I did it in quick haste because I feared I wouldn't be able to get it to replay again at all. May attempt to do a better one later during daytime. The strobing is also part of the VCD, not my camera. Not sure why or what is going on there...

#5 Clint Thompson OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:31 AM

Livewire (2nd Tripod) version

Don't think this is much better actually but it's on a tripod. Can't get past the way the game moves and then blinks on the screen so... I dunno.
Slightly longer...

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:21 AM

heh, kinda ironic, was discussing the Livewire video with Gaz in the pub on Tuesday :D

Anyway you can rip the CD to an ISO? if it's a CDR it runs the risk of failing completely with it's age.

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:25 AM

View PostClint Thompson, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:31 AM, said:

Livewire (2nd Tripod) version

Don't think this is much better actually but it's on a tripod. Can't get past the way the game moves and then blinks on the screen so... I dunno.
Slightly longer...
Hey Clint thanks for uploading that vid, somehow the old screenshots had dissapeared so it is nice to have at least that much from the game since the game has seemed to vanish. Interesting to see it in motion.

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:34 AM

Was this a homebrew or an unreleased game. Looks cool though - fits into Jaguar's strengths (colourful 2D)

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:09 AM

View PostDracIsBack, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:34 AM, said:

Was this a homebrew or an unreleased game. Looks cool though - fits into Jaguar's strengths (colourful 2D)
Yeah, this looks like a great effort! Never heard of it until now. Thanks for sharing!!

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:10 PM

Thanks for this piece of history :)

I second what Linko wrote : if it's a VCD, just rip it and upload the video (or the ISO file directly, if you don't want to bother with the format conversion yourself).

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:17 PM

Man, I would love to find the developers and see if they salvaged or saved any of it!

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:33 PM

View PostZerosquare, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:10 PM, said:

Thanks for this piece of history :)

I second what Linko wrote : if it's a VCD, just rip it and upload the video (or the ISO file directly, if you don't want to bother with the format conversion yourself).

Sadly, that's not possible. For some reason, this disc simply does not recognize/read properly any 6 of the computers I've used, from XP to Ubuntu on another system even on a Mac.
It says it is unable to read the files from the disc... which is why it sat for years collecting dust. I tried ddrescue and safecopy, bot failed. I have no idea why or what the issue is or even why it plays in my Toshiba XDE but nothing else. I spent roughly 5 hours or so trying to get this thing copied but with no luck.

It is a VCD but read errors galore come about when trying to access it at all from any computer I've had access too.

If somehow I can manage to get it copied (doesn't seem possible at this point) I would be more than happy to post an ISO somewhere.
With that said, it does get pretty repetitive after about 10 minutes.

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM

View PostClint Thompson, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:33 PM, said:

Sadly, that's not possible. For some reason, this disc simply does not recognize/read properly any 6 of the computers I've used, from XP to Ubuntu on another system even on a Mac.
It says it is unable to read the files from the disc... which is why it sat for years collecting dust. I tried ddrescue and safecopy, bot failed. I have no idea why or what the issue is or even why it plays in my Toshiba XDE but nothing else. I spent roughly 5 hours or so trying to get this thing copied but with no luck.

It is a VCD but read errors galore come about when trying to access it at all from any computer I've had access too.

If somehow I can manage to get it copied (doesn't seem possible at this point) I would be more than happy to post an ISO somewhere.
With that said, it does get pretty repetitive after about 10 minutes.

Would you be willing to send it to someone who can try doing a recovery of the disk?

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:11 PM

Absolutely.

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:48 PM

I wish Jason could get his Highlander 2 disk working but it to was unreadable iirc

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Posted Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:18 PM

Try CloneCD - Even if the directory structure is unreadable it might still make an image that the files can be recovered from.

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Posted Sun May 1, 2011 5:42 AM

Cool video, thanks for sharing. For some reason the game reminds of Trevor Mcfur, I'm sure there's no way it would have been anywhere near that bad.

View PostBuddyBuddies, on Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:48 PM, said:

I wish Jason could get his Highlander 2 disk working but it to was unreadable iirc

What's supposed to be on the CD?

Edited by wozencl, Sun May 1, 2011 5:42 AM.


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Posted Mon May 2, 2011 10:34 AM

The CD was made using pinacle studio 8. If anyone has a copy of that still, I would imagine it would run from that? I might try & locate my orginal copy in my mountain of crap. As for the original developer he disappeared years ago, was part of cortex design, who were making the game!

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Posted Tue May 3, 2011 1:44 AM

Cortex Design ? The same guys who made Apex Media for the Falcon ?

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Posted Tue May 3, 2011 9:52 AM

View PostFadest, on Tue May 3, 2011 1:44 AM, said:

Cortex Design ? The same guys who made Apex Media for the Falcon ?

Wasn't Cortex born from Titan Designs (Dave Encil)? I think they published stuff others made on the Falcon (eg Black Scorpion Software).

EDIT: did some searches, added link

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Posted Tue May 3, 2011 11:30 AM

I used to talk to one of the BSS guys on a fairly regular basis (and learned a lot from him) - unfortunately we lost contact - used to hope i could talk to him about this and see if he'd been involved




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