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[GeneralMurdock]

Hi all )

I was wondering, my rom set has 160MB.

So would it be possible to burn the roms into a cd-r with some software to play it in the jaguar cd ?

I mean, original atari jaguar games be burned into a cd. Even if it's just one rom per cd, it still be awesome.

Is it possible ?

[Sauron]

 GeneralMurdock, on Thu May 12, 2011 3:16 PM, said:

Hi all )

I was wondering, my rom set has 160MB.

So would it be possible to burn the roms into a cd-r with some software to play it in the jaguar cd ?

I mean, original atari jaguar games be burned into a cd. Even if it's just one rom per cd, it still be awesome.

Is it possible ?

Nope, sorry, that wouldn't work. Most games that were released on cart were meant to run from ROM space, so they'd never work from CD.

[GeneralMurdock]

oh

I was so happy just made a deal with a seller to get my first jaguar cd.

Thanks for the reply Sauron.

[Sauron]

Getting a Jag CD is not a total loss, as there are a few good commercial games available for it, namely Battlemorph and Hover Strike: Unconquered Lands. Also, there's been some homebrew releases lately that can also be run from CD. Look at my sig for some examples. *</self-promotion>*

[CyranoJ]

As Sauron said, pretty much all homebrew releases can be made to run from JagCD using ULS, and the few remaining unencrypted CDs can be booted via Jagtopia (See my signature for links)

Welcome to the wonderful world of Post Atari Jaguar Gaming - a good place to start would be here:

Link to homebrew thread at AA

[GeneralMurdock]

I believe the first game I will play will be Myst! I really want to play it.

What is ULS ?

By the way, in atari jaguar CD games can you save your progress ?

Edited by GeneralMurdock, Thu May 12, 2011 7:40 PM.

[Austin]

Yes sir, with this device right here: http://www.atariage....MemoryTrack.jpg

[CyranoJ]

This is Jaguar ULS.

[Willard]

Baldies is also a great JagCD game worth checking out. It plays alot like an update of the amiga classic Mega Lo Mania. Probably could've been a cart game but at least it gives you another reason to own a JagCD.

[Jag_Slave]

Personally, I enjoy Blue Lightning.

[GeneralMurdock]

Thanks for all the replies!

I think my jaguar cd will be here next week I believe.

I have one more question what is jaguar BLJ ? and battlesphere ?


EDIT: I was reading the ULS site and they say they "didn't want" to make ULS be able to burn .rom ?
So is that possible just unwanted ?

Edited by GeneralMurdock, Thu May 12, 2011 10:05 PM.

[Austin]

Look into some Jag CD repair guides before it arrives.. Just in case...

[Sauron]

 GeneralMurdock, on Thu May 12, 2011 9:44 PM, said:

Thanks for all the replies!

I think my jaguar cd will be here next week I believe.

I have one more question what is jaguar BLJ ? and battlesphere ?


EDIT: I was reading the ULS site and they say they "didn't want" to make ULS be able to burn .rom ?
So is that possible just unwanted ?

BJL = Behind Jaggi Lines. It was basically a way of modding a Jaguar to run homebrew games long before the current tools were available. It's pretty much been rendered obsolete now with the introduction of the Skunkboard, although for those who haven't been able to get one, it's still a way to play some homebrew titles for those with a modded Jaguar and without a Jag CD.

Battlesphere is a game that was started back during the Jag's commercial life but came out a while after Atari put it to pasture. I'd suggest doing a search on it for more info.

No, ULS can not be made to run ROM files, for the reasons I stated before.

[CyranoJ]

 GeneralMurdock, on Thu May 12, 2011 9:44 PM, said:

EDIT: I was reading the ULS site and they say they "didn't want" to make ULS be able to burn .rom ?
So is that possible just unwanted ?

The ULS site actually says:

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LIMITATIONS & DISCLAIMER

You obviously cannot offer the program a .ROM or other cartridge image, that is simply not possible. There may also be some larger Jaguar executables that will work with, for example, a BJL setup, but will not work with our process. It's always best to try out your image first in an emulator before burning a disc - that costs nothing. This is essentially a tool for putting homebrew software onto CD with the minimum of fuss.

It's not a matter of not wanting to do it, it can't be done.

[GeneralMurdock]

Thank you all for the answers!

So there's absolute no way to play back ups of cartridges in the atari jaguar without a skunkboard.

So what about jag cd isos ? If you get one they can be simple burned or it needs the ULS software ?

[BuddyBuddies]

 GeneralMurdock, on Fri May 13, 2011 5:49 AM, said:

Thank you all for the answers!

So there's absolute no way to play back ups of cartridges in the atari jaguar without a skunkboard.

So what about jag cd isos ? If you get one they can be simple burned or it needs the ULS software ?

You can always use a flash card to back them up

Highlander is a decent Jaguar cd game too!

[OldSchoolRetroGamer]

 GeneralMurdock, on Fri May 13, 2011 5:49 AM, said:

So what about jag cd isos ? If you get one they can be simple burned or it needs the ULS software ?

I am fairly certain that like the Sega CD, 3DO, CDi, that yes ISO burned to CDr will play just fine on the JagCD.

I received a few "backup" in a lot of CDi games for the jaguar CD, I assume they would boot fine though i do not have a Jag CD yet to personally test.

[ATARI7800fan]

Good luck with the Jaguar CD. I have heard they can be fragile.

[GeneralMurdock]

Yes, that's one of the things I'm scared, if this beast can work right.

Just to understand a little more, what is the:

JAGCDBY CD Bypass cart

This is not needed to play backups, right ?

[mimo]

You can burn the ISO's no problem. There are quite a few homebrew games that have cd releases,

[Zerosquare]

 GeneralMurdock, on Fri May 13, 2011 11:08 AM, said:

Just to understand a little more, what is the:

JAGCDBY CD Bypass cart

This is not needed to play backups, right ?

No, it's only needed to run some older howebrew games that were released back when creating "standalone" CDs was not possible (because some required information was unavailable at the time). Most of them have been rereleased in a form that doesn't need the bypass cartridge ; for the rest, you can use Reboot's Jagtopia instead (it's a free boot CD for such cases).

Edited by Zerosquare, Fri May 13, 2011 11:47 AM.

[Felyx]

Hi,

If that can help those who own a Jaguar CD: here is a topic I created on a french forum to explain where to find public domain or freewares homebrews:

http://www.gamopat-f...s-graver-sur-cd

Although it written in french, it should be readable by non frencjh spoken people as the only things you have to know are the following:

.cdi files are for burning with DiscJuggler (demo version 6 is free and suits perfectly)

.nrg files are for burning with Nero: Demo version is free but works for a limited time only.

ULS from the great Reboot group allows to convert most .bin .cof. jag. and abs files on .cd file to burn directly with DiscJuggleri: absolutely essential to put on CD lots of homebrews created to work with BJL.

When you use ULS, the only thing you need to pay attention is to enter the correct load and run adresses: I give those correct adresses for each CD I burned succesfully.

Once you know that just click on the links to get the homebrew files and Cinepak videos and enjoy.

Personnaly I manage to get something like 30 CD-R and I am still discovering new homebrews.

Feel free to use the cd cover and DVD box art I did for my own CD-R.

Hope some will find the topic useful.

Edited by Felyx, Sat May 21, 2011 2:24 PM.

[Felyx]

I forgot to precise: most of the homebrews I burned on CD-R are encrypted which means burn and play.

For the few ones not encrypted, you can buy a by-pass cartridge or use the Reboot (here are them again ) Jagtopia: is a freeware and once burned on CD it does the same job than a by-pass cartridge. The only difference is the price: Jagtopia will cost you a blank CD-R only when a by-pass cartridge costs about $30(+s&h).

Homebrews converted into .cdi files by ULS are encrypted so it is burn à play.
Someone said the Jaguar has some good games on CD.

Only 16 games have been released on CD which is few but it includes Iron Soldier 2, Battlemorph, World Tour Racing, Primal Rage, Vid Grid and some hits from other console or computer like Myst, Space Ace, Dragon's Lair, Highlander: not too bad in interest!

Last but not least: rom format is not supported by ULS and you can't burn rom of commercial games on CD even if it's a rom of a game on CD.

Edited by Felyx, Sat May 21, 2011 2:53 PM.

[Stone]

Actually it is possible to burn a CD 'jukebox' - Atari devs used them internally to play the latest cart games. The disadvantage is that you need an Alpine and dev BIOS in your JagCD! All the CD software does is copy a cart image onto the Alpine, then resets - the valid cart image then forces the Jag to run from cartspace instead of the JagCD. So it is possible, just deeply awkward and expensive

Stone

[wozencl]

 Stone, on Thu May 26, 2011 2:31 PM, said:

Actually it is possible to burn a CD 'jukebox' - Atari devs used them internally to play the latest cart games. The disadvantage is that you need an Alpine and dev BIOS in your JagCD! All the CD software does is copy a cart image onto the Alpine, then resets - the valid cart image then forces the Jag to run from cartspace instead of the JagCD. So it is possible, just deeply awkward and expensive

Stone

Cool, I'd never heard that before. Out of curiosity was this a special BIOS or the standard one? I seem to recall reading that the retail Jag CD's BIOS was being updated right up to release.