danny_galaga, on Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:59 AM, said:
What I should have said is 'arcade buttons is arcade buttons'
Arcade machines (with buttons) were around quite a while before the JAMMA
wiring standard came in. Whether it's Space Invaders or Scramble or Sea Fighter Poseidon or Street Fighter II, they are the same buttons. The main difference is whether they are leaf spring or microswitch. After that you might differentiate between manufacturers like Happ or Sanwa. I have Sanwa buttons and joysticks on my cocktail cab by the way
Believe it or not, yes, I do know that. Again, the reason I used the word JAMMA with the arcade sticks is to explain to people what they were getting. We did that line before X-Arcade was even around I'm pretty sure. I used the same thing here to refer specifically back to that line up.
So I would like to revise my original statement to make everyone happy. [And this is supposed to be in fun since apparently I never knew what a huge issue the name of our Joysticks were from 10 years ago
] Please read this:
"You can make a Jaguar hook up to JAMMA arcade buttons (I did it with the JAMMA Joystick line up way back when) without needing to worry about these pinouts at all."
As this:
"You may hook these adapters up to whatever types of arcade buttons you choose. Leaf switches or microswitches, Concave or Convex, HAPP or Sanwa, heck, you can pull an old leaf out of your Ms. Pac Man and put it in there too. You could also hook up a joystick or a coin device, or any other type of arcade specific component to it. Since essentially arcade components are not specific to the machines, you may choose to use any sorts of buttons you wish. You may hook up arcade style buttons that were not manufactured for use in arcades, you may hook up an old NES controller that you modify. Heck, you could modify an old NES controller to use arcade style buttons that were not manufactured in arcades, and then modify that and hook it up to this! Essentially, a button is a thing that allows an electrical signal to pass through it when it is closed or open, so you may use any device of this type to make a special controller for this.
About 10 years ago, I made a joystick called the Jaguar JAMMA Joystick. You can use the same components that this used, because although the controller was specifically built and marketed as a controller that used the same standard parts as any standard arcade game, this could or could not be true, depending on what the arcade game was. Because I'm certain that thousands of people have been confused by the name of our joystick line up and what can and cannot hook up to the molex connector on the Jaguar Test Units, I will reveal at this point that the name "JAMMA Joystick" was a marketing ploy that was not intended to confuse people as it clearly did, and in fact, since the joysticks work with the Jaguar console, they are, in fact, not JAMMA joysticks in any sort of way.
In fact, these 'JAMMA Joysticks' use the same electrical current pass through method that any other button uses, and are not special in any way, other than using components that were originally made to be placed into arcade machines, but since they were not this was really just a standard joystick, and one which was not use for arcade machines.
Due to this, if you send back your GOAT Store Jaguar JAMMA Joystick, I will be happy to remove the buttons from it and place them into one of my JAMMA arcade cabinets so that the buttons may actually be JAMMA used buttons. This of course has nothing to do with the Carousel Test Fixtures, but I would be happy to get buttons and place them into one of my arcade cabinets so that you may also have arcade buttons in your cabinet, and not just a device that allows an electrical current pass-through."
I'm sorry that I apparently opened some sort of strange debate by referring back to a product that I made 10 years ago in a post! I hope that people bookmark this post, and if they ever see a Jaguar JAMMA Joystick (or any of our other "JAMMA" Joysticks that we created) in their collecting days, they will now be much less confused about what is actually included with it.
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