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[Ze_ro]

Important Note: This weeks competition is over and no further scores will be accepted.

First, the best brains in the world designed a super spaceship to defend your planet against eveil aliens who lusted to conquer it. But the marauders kept coming! Your new secret weapon: stargate, a powerful stellar gateway to the universe. It's the only hope for your beleagured planet! Once again, you take to the skies in your ship -- now fortified with the mysterious cloaking compound, INVISO. With the help of the stargate, maybe -- just maybe -- you can save the last humanoids and wipe out the aliens FOREVER!

Game Information

Game Name: stargate / Defender II Released By: Atari, 1985 Left Difficulty: N / A Right Difficulty: N / A Game Mode: Default - 1 Player Post your scores right here in this thread, and I will add them to the list. Remember to play the game with the recommended game mode and difficulty settings as shown above so that your scores will be consistent with everyone elses. The deadline for posting scores is Wednesday June 1st at 1:00 AM (Central Time, UTC-6).

Challenges

Double Score Dungeon - This week, scoring is extended... First place will get 22 points, second place 21 points, ..., 20th place gets 3 points, and everyone else gets 2 points.

Current High Scores 225,250 (toymailman) [+22] 189,050 (oyamafamily) [+21] 104,400 (Stan) [+20] 95,650 (Jifremok) [+19] 90,700 (JacobZu7zu7) [+18] 88,200 (Chuck D. Head) [+17] 80,850 (Frostbite76) [+16] 79,050 (Gorfy) [+15] 74,850 (DT Kofoed) [+14] 73,950 (Torr) [+13] 69,900 (Mister VCS) [+12] 68,450 (Vocelli) [+11] 57,850 (zylon) [+10] 55,300 (classicgamer_27330) [+9] 53,500 (Scrabbler15) [+8] 51,600 (roadrunner) [+7] 45,050 (Miss 2600) [+6] 43,750 (ed1475) [+5] 33,300 (centiqueen81) [+4] 27,650 (pokeplayer984) [+3] 27,000 (rmaerz) [+2] 13,000 (Amstari) [+1] 12,450 (littleman jack) [+1] 5900 (Darth Kinzer) [+1] Best Tips Stan [+2] TwinGalaxies Top 3 (Game 1, Difficulty B) 79,700 (Stephen Knox) 77,350 (Robert Macauley) (PAL) 65,650 (Alan W Hewston)

Current Standings JacobZu7zu7 [154] oyamafamily [140] toymailman [140] Vocelli [115] Frostbite76 [107] Deteacher [76] Gorfy [75] classicgamer_27330 [54] SpiceWare [48] Scrabbler15 [47] DT Kofoed [43] Miss 2600 [41] Amstari [41] Stan [40] pis [38] keilbaca [37] roadrunner [26] Cynicaster [20] SeaGtGruff [20] Jifremok [18] Mister VCS [17] cparsley [17] HatefulGravey [17] Curious Sofa [16] centiqueen81 [15] LarcenTyler [13] Krytol [13] pokeplayer984 [13] zylon [10] Chuck D. Head [9] Wickeycolumbus [6] littleman jack [6] atarigal [5] Cortat G [5] bennybingo [5] Zach [3] atariUCLA24 [3] dwane413 [3] SpaceDice2010 [2] MIKE5200 [2] Mangia-Boy [1] rmaerz [1] Buck [1] 4Ks [1] Cream147 [1] theKLT [1] DickNixonArisen [1] leematari [1]

Scoring Points in stargate / Defender II

Landers - 150 points Mutants - 150 points Yllabian Space Guppies - 200 points Firebombers - 250 points Pods - 1000 points Swarmers - 150 points Dynamos - 200 points Baiters - 200 points Phreds - 200 points Munchies - 50 points At the end of attack waves 1 through 5, you receive 100, 200, 300, 400, or 500 points for every humanoid left on the planet, respectively. After the 5th attack wave, you receive 500 points for every humanoid left. You can also keep the rescued humanoids with you on board your ship. In attack waves 1 through 9, if you pass through a stargate while transporting four or more humanoids on your ship, you'll automatically advance four waves in the game. You'll also receive 1000 points for every humanoid left on the planet. For every 10,000 points you score, you earn another ship, another smart bomb, and more inviso.

Hints and Tips

The Manual

As always, you really should read the manual. In case you don't have the manual, AtariAge has a typed copy available online. Here are the hints it provides:

• The Scanner on your screen shows you any area on the planet where humanoids are in danger. Keep an eye on your scanner -- it will alert you to any emergencies in another part of the sky. Rush to a stargate for immediate transport to that sector.
  
• Your planet will be destroyed if all the humanoids are turned into mutants -- but you must still defend yourself! If you're a good fighter, your planet will be restored in wave 6, or in every fifth wave after that.
  
• In attack wave 5 and every 10th attack wave thereafter, you'll encounter the Yllabian dog fight. The only aliens that appear on the screen are Yllabian Space Guppies, Pods, and Dynamos. It takes skill and practice to make it through this wave.
  
• In every 10th attack wave, you'll find yourself in the middle of a Firebomber showdown. Firebombers are everywhere. Keep a sharp eye and a nimble firing finger.
  
• Whenever you lose a ship, you reappear on the screen with a new one (if you have any left). But all action stops until you move the joystick.
  
• Along with the powers of your super spaceship, you've been blessed with supersonic hearing. You can hear the humanoids scream as they're being accosted by landers. On your side of the planet, this comes as a faint yelp. The sound of explosions means that a humanoid and lander have just been transformed into a mutant.

We played this game once before in the High Score Club, you might want to check out that thread for more hints.

Stan

• Make it IMPERATIVE that you protect most if not ALL of the little dudes in the first couple of stages. You get tons of points from saving, catching, and returning them.
  
• My tactic has been to fly around and take out the green bugs, avoiding the other ships, unless they come directly at you. This works fine early on and you can max out points, getting around 30K by level four or so if you keep all your dudes.
  
• DO NOT think it's a better idea to max out points through just killing ships. Avoiding saving your guys will lead to the special levels where you fight all the ships. At first, this might seem like a cool angle to work, but you run out of steam in a few levels because they speed up regardless of your score.
  
• At advanced levels (50K and on by my scoring tactic above), your best bet is to try to save 1-2 dudes and let the other ones go, taking out ships as they come for you. That way, you avoid the ship levels, and you're able to keep racking up good points.

JacobZu7zu7

In general, I don't like to speed through levels much or I will crash into stuff, just hit enemies medium pace and clear the screen. If I have to play the "no survivors lighting level" I will! I get cheap deaths trying to save people quickly. To hell with the rush! I take my time now.

I use smart bombs only after 30/40ks mark, and when I do, it's if 3 things are on the screen, it really can lower the amount to shoot. Of course, being invisible helps too, mostly when you're about to be "hit" by something.

I tried something different after reaching around 50ks, I sat my ship still this time... the waves became too fast to rescue everyone, I just stayed low, and shot out the green aliens from one single screen tapping (left,right) keeping two people safe as long as possible. Even staying just high enough for a green alien to "take" the person up, then shoot his arse down will get good extra points from people landing down safely. Only worry about the green aliens, forget the stuff that can be shot down later, just dodge, shoot, use toe if near!

I also used smart bombs, and invisibility on the pink fly looking things, so I didn't have to move much, everything else, I just would fire and hope for clearing a round.

--Zero

[DT Kofoed]

Any recommendations for joystick coupling?

[Chuck D. Head]

I don't have this, but probably not too bad a game for emulation, so....



17,700. lots of room for improvement there, eh?

[Gorfy]

fun game.......35,550

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[pokeplayer984]

A couple of quick playthroughs and my top is 8550, but just watch me improve.

This is a fun one.

[centiqueen81]

Yaaahooooo! Finally a game I have n' love! Will post score soon. Great pick this week this should be fun! Good luck n' Happy gaming

[Scrabbler15]

7450

Shoot stuff. Score points. Aw, yeah.

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[Frostbite76]

Don't have the game but ordered and it's out for delivery. Looks like alot of fun but shooters are probably the worst genre I'm at.

Edited by Frostbite76, Wed May 25, 2011 3:17 PM.

[Torr]

centiqueen81, on Wed May 25, 2011 11:29 AM, said:

Yaaahooooo! Finally a game I have n' love! Will post score soon. Great pick this week this should be fun! Good luck n' Happy gaming

My thoughts exactly, however I find this game dreadfully hard as well, this was the last 'NEW' Atari game I received back in the day, and I got Defender II.... never new about this 'Stargate' game until I found AA.
Time to get some practice and highscoring going.

Edited by Torr, Wed May 25, 2011 3:44 PM.

[oyamafamily]

Defender 2 - 67,300

[oyamafamily]

Defender 2 - 104,050



WOO HOOO!! I broke 100K mark! And I broke Twin Galaxies Top Score - 79,700 points by Stephen Knox!

Edited by oyamafamily, Sun May 29, 2011 10:43 AM.

[Scrabbler15]

12,950

Never been much good at Defender (or any variation of it). But I'm gonna have fun this week seeing how far up I can finish on that 22 point ladder.

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[Chuck D. Head]

After another good hour on this game, I am not much better - 20,800



I would probably give up if it weren't for the double points, but I will fight on.

[Gorfy]

Man, this game gets crazy around attack wave 7 or so.

New score: 48,950

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[Stan]

First try:

33,550

[zylon]

Hmmm, I might give this a go.

[Scrabbler15]

22,550

Improving, and it's only Wednesday.

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[JacobZu7zu7]

63,350

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[Jifremok]

First attempt: 25,300.
Later attempts: Something lower.
Future attempts: Hopefully a lot better.

[zylon]

Been a long time since I've given this one a proper play. You can use the A8 Robotron stick holder for 2nd stick or I just put it on the floor and use my toe for smart bombs.
42,100

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[centiqueen81]

Torr, on Wed May 25, 2011 3:43 PM, said:

centiqueen81, on Wed May 25, 2011 11:29 AM, said:

Yaaahooooo! Finally a game I have n' love! Will post score soon. Great pick this week this should be fun! Good luck n' Happy gaming

My thoughts exactly, however I find this game dreadfully hard as well, this was the last 'NEW' Atari game I received back in the day, and I got Defender II.... never new about this 'Stargate' game until I found AA.
Time to get some practice and highscoring going.

Here. Here. So true this definitely is a challenging game. If I have one complaint it's that you have to use 2 joysticks. Too bad they didn't make a special joystick for this game Oh well, what can ya do! Good luck fellow gamers

[centiqueen81]

Well here is my first attempt...... 33,300: Boy, if I want to make it in this tourney I better keep practicing! Some great scores have been achieved here so far. Can't wait to see what the h.s is gonna be come the the end of this tourney! Back to the drawing board!

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[JacobZu7zu7]

68,400


It's REALLY tough after 50ks. I save my bombs 'till after the 30 or 40k mark.
Cool, after the bombs are up, you get temporary invisibility by continuing with the "foot" button on joystick 2.

I am peaking early here, I wonder if I can even do better then this,

75,000

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[Stan]

Yeah, this game definitely gets tough after that. 70K seems about par for advanced players, and then after that I assume luck is a big factor. However, I do have some ultra mega awesome tips below! Here's my new score with picture attached:

77,600

ULTRA MEGA SUPER AWESOME KEWL TIPS

1. Make it IMPERATIVE that you protect most if not ALL of the little dudes in the first couple of stages. You get tons of points from saving, catching, and returning them.

2. My tactic has been to fly around and take out the green bugs, avoiding the other ships, unless they come directly at you. This works fine early on and you can max out points, getting around 30K by level four or so if you keep all your dudes.

3. DO NOT think it's a better idea to max out points through just killing ships. Avoiding saving your guys will lead to the special levels where you fight all the ships. At first, this might seem like a cool angle to work, but you run out of steam in a few levels because they speed up regardless of your score.

4. At advanced levels (50K and on by my scoring tactic above), your best bet is to try to save 1-2 dudes and let the other ones go, taking out ships as they come for you. That way, you avoid the ship levels, and you're able to keep racking up good points.

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[Vocelli]

Great you had to pick a double points round on a Holiday weekend.
I remember playing Defender back in the day. This one is much harder!
Vocelli: 45700

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