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[Rik]

I had a weird dream last night.I walked into a gaming store and to my absolute amazement sitting in the stores front window display "Colecovision Flashback", the same concept as the Atari Flashback but for CV.I never thought of a CV Flashback console, the thought never entered my mind till i had the dream.A mini CV flashback console would be so friggin cool.I wish Coleco was still around today to do this!

Edited by Rik, Sat Jun 4, 2011 11:07 AM.

[Armonigann]

All I can say is...One sweet dream!

[Murph74]

I prefer to think that was a premonition! I'm keeping the faith that one day it will still happen - license hurdles and all!

[Rik]

I hope so!, I believe the consumer interest is there just by the extreme bidding and number of CV stuff available on Ebay alone.

[retroillucid]

The only problem with ColecoVision Flashback is only the number of liscenced games on that system....

However, the best thing would be that the CV Flashback unit had a SD cart slot wich you could store all games on a SD card, then it would be no problem to release a Flashback unit

I already think about going on with this using Nintendo DS console shells (wich is available for cheap) ... then using the bottom screen recess to put a keypad there, having 4 buttons to match the SA Controller buttons

[tz101]

Only games they could put on it would be baseball, football, Cabbage Patch Kids, and maybe Telly Turtle.

Would be a pretty boring machine at that rate.

[Rik]

I had a feeling the games would be limited.

[JamesD]

I've always had better things to dream about than video games.
Instead of a flashback, how about a Multiple Classic Computer configured as a Colecovision?
They don't have Colecovision compatibility yet but it's a possibility for the future. Colecovision in an FPGA

[retroillucid]

JamesD, on Sat Jun 4, 2011 9:22 PM, said:

I've always had better things to dream about than video games.
Instead of a flashback, how about a Multiple Classic Computer configured as a Colecovision?
They don't have Colecovision compatibility yet but it's a possibility for the future. Colecovision in an FPGA

Thanks James for MCC link, I didn't know this kind of thing exist

I email them and ask them to incorporate the ColecoVision, I did provide them the link to CV FPGA..... they thanks me and they will check it and will try to inlclude the CV too!

Everybody should email them about having the CV incoporate in MCC,... they'll know how much interest there is in ColecoVision


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[Retro Rogue]

tz101, on Sat Jun 4, 2011 1:33 PM, said:

Only games they could put on it would be baseball, football, Cabbage Patch Kids, and maybe Telly Turtle.

Would be a pretty boring machine at that rate.

They wouldn't be able to even do Cabage Patch, that brand is currently owned by Mattel. Riverwest (the people who bought the Coleco name and the colecovision IP from Hasbro), didn't get any of the other Coleco related IP.

[Rik]

That MCC unit is badass!, i didn't know it existed either!I still would prefer a mini CV lookalike for the coolness of it like the mini 7800 and 2600 Flashbacks.But hey, i'm not complaining, the various efforts by gentlemen such as Retroillucid is very much appreciated by me and i'm thankful for the Homebrew scene we do have for CV.

Edited by Rik, Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:22 PM.

[Rik]

retroillucid, on Sun Jun 5, 2011 6:15 PM, said:

JamesD, on Sat Jun 4, 2011 9:22 PM, said:

I've always had better things to dream about than video games.
Instead of a flashback, how about a Multiple Classic Computer configured as a Colecovision?
They don't have Colecovision compatibility yet but it's a possibility for the future. Colecovision in an FPGA

Thanks James for MCC link, I didn't know this kind of thing exist

I email them and ask them to incorporate the ColecoVision, I did provide them the link to CV FPGA..... they thanks me and they will check it and will try to inlclude the CV too!

Everybody should email them about having the CV incoporate in MCC,... they'll know how much interest there is in ColecoVision


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That's a fantastic idea Retro!I just did my part and emailed them too!.

[Yurkie]

Wouldn't it be a better idea to have the Adam computer added to the device...that way you could play ColecoVision carts, plus Adam DDPs and Floppy games.

[retroillucid]

Yurkie, on Mon Jun 6, 2011 10:14 AM, said:

Wouldn't it be a better idea to have the Adam computer added to the device...that way you could play ColecoVision carts, plus Adam DDPs and Floppy games.

That would be awesome indeed to have the ADAM too, but there's no ADAM on a chip made yet ....

[Pixelboy]

The MCC sounds cool, but I'd be weary of the quality of the ColecoVision emulation, if it was ever implemented. I don't know about you, but if the sound output was less than perfect, for example, it would ruin the experience for me. I can speak from experience, after playing with "2010 The Graphic Action Game" on DreamCast a few years ago (the Dreamcast CV emulator didn't reproduce the sound output quite right).

[ten-four]

Hi.

I have followed the project from FPGA Arcade in some years and had also seen that they could emulate the ColecoVision.

Also know that the project is almost finished.

But my hope is Eduardo in collaboration with others would produce a similar project.

I just want the ability to use my existing games in cartridge format.

[Rik]

Pixelboy, on Mon Jun 6, 2011 11:25 AM, said:

The MCC sounds cool, but I'd be weary of the quality of the ColecoVision emulation, if it was ever implemented. I don't know about you, but if the sound output was less than perfect, for example, it would ruin the experience for me. I can speak from experience, after playing with "2010 The Graphic Action Game" on DreamCast a few years ago (the Dreamcast CV emulator didn't reproduce the sound output quite right).

Yep, that's why I am such such an advocate for the "REAL" thing.Nothing beats playing the actual console.AFAIK, there is no such thing as a %100 accurate emulator...or is there?, so far I've heard of none, there's always something that's not quite ON. But as the next couple of generations go by, emulation may be the ONLY way for those folks to enjoy classic gaming.Classic gaming consoles and such are rapidly aging and parts will become harder and harder to come by.

Edited by Rik, Mon Jun 6, 2011 7:15 PM.

[retroillucid]

Rik, on Mon Jun 6, 2011 7:10 PM, said:

Pixelboy, on Mon Jun 6, 2011 11:25 AM, said:

The MCC sounds cool, but I'd be weary of the quality of the ColecoVision emulation, if it was ever implemented. I don't know about you, but if the sound output was less than perfect, for example, it would ruin the experience for me. I can speak from experience, after playing with "2010 The Graphic Action Game" on DreamCast a few years ago (the Dreamcast CV emulator didn't reproduce the sound output quite right).

Yep, that's why I am such such an advocate for the "REAL" thing.Nothing beats playing the actual console.AFAIK, there is no such thing as a %100 accurate emulator...or is there?, so far I've heard of none, there's always something that's not quite ON. But as the next couple of generations go by, emulation may be the ONLY way for those folks to enjoy classic gaming.Classic gaming consoles and such are rapidly aging and parts will become harder and harder to come by.

You both right guys .... however...

You should not look at MCC (or emulation) as a "replacement solution" for your existing ColecoVision system
MCC is just nice because it'll emulate some other system and being able to plug right in the TV and using existing DB-9 Controllers

There's ALWAYS problem with something or other with the 'on a chip concept" .... just look at all those NES/SNES/Genesis consoles clones ... sometimes there's game(s) that don't work at all
But its always great to have one of them as a "spare" unit

As said, WE NEED a completely NEW system ... and obviously a brand new power supply

[JamesD]

The Famiclones are notorious for getting the sound wrong (I have one) but the NES had a much more complex sound system. I also think they are all pretty much based on early FPGA implementations that were published on the net.

The TI sound chip is a pretty simple square wave sound generator so it *should* be pretty easy to implement in hardware.
Even the AY and POKEY sound chips have been accurately implemented in an FPGA for some time.
It's actually easier to accurately implement these chips in hardware than to emulate them.

Chips like the SID are another matter. SID includes some analog filtering which could be simulated in hardware but it would be difficult to make it sound identical in an FPGA without added analog hardware or a more complex FPGA design. But then early SIDs and later SIDs didn't even sound exactly alike.

[Greg2600]

MCC is $150, Atari Flashback 2 cost a 1/3 of that at release, usually found much less. Once you get over $50 bucks or whatever the clones or portable clones for NES, SNES, Genesis, etc. cost, the perspective market dries up. Given the lack of anything but licensed arcade titles, you'd basically be selling a "pirate" box, playable only by "illegally downloaded" roms. I doubt anyone could get the CV license for something like that. Could produce a clone though.