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Trouble with a false RGB TV


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#1 abaudrand OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 6, 2011 10:20 AM

Hi,
I recently used a SONY TRINITRON KV-14M1B TV and I had no troubles using my atari 7800 with it despite the picture is not very colorful.
I've just purchased an old Amstrad 6128+ with RGB output and each time I plug it the picture is fine for about 2 seconds then it become bright grayish. I mean the black still black but all other graphics become bright.
I've spent some time finding manuals on internet but not exactly the same model. On the manuals they use a symbol for the RGB input that look like this:

  
    _________
-> /  . . .  /
  /_________/

On my model , it look like this
SCART SONY KV-14M1B.jpg


I couldn't find a chart of symbol but is it a RGB input with a strange Gamma curb?
Anyone heard about this?

Edited by abaudrand, Mon Jun 6, 2011 10:22 AM.


#2 GroovyBee OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 6, 2011 10:44 AM

That's a SCART socket in the bottom picture. Are you using a Peritel system or an S-Video modded system?

#3 abaudrand OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 6, 2011 11:41 AM

I'm using a SCART cable for the 7800 and for the Amstrad. Normally these ones output RVB signal compatible with some CRT display.
I've changed the TV to another brand and I don't have any issue but the display is blurry compare to a trinitron tube. this becoming annoying if you want to program on an amstrad, not for playing game.


#4 GroovyBee OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 6, 2011 11:56 AM

For the 7800 what is on the other end of the cable? Is it S-video modded or a Peritel 7800?

#5 abaudrand OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM

Original Peritel 7800 cable but the 7800 isn't the issue at all, I guess its the Sony trinitron which doesn't have a normal RGB input.

#6 roland p OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:27 PM

From my memories, maybe it has to do something with pin 16. The signal on this pin will let the tv select between composite and rgb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART

Does your scart cable has this pin connected?

Edited by roland p, Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:41 PM.


#7 abaudrand OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 6, 2011 11:15 PM

View Postroland p, on Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:27 PM, said:

From my memories, maybe it has to do something with pin 16. The signal on this pin will let the tv select between composite and rgb:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART

Does your scart cable has this pin connected?

Thanks Roland, thats a good idea to check if the Amstrad deliver the right tension here. I'll ask my bro to bring his voltmeter friday to check the Pin 16. I've also found a way to enter into service mode but I also need a sony remote to do so.
Here is the link I've found that might interest other people who have a sony TV set:
http://myweb.accessu...90/sonypal.html
(link for NTSC also available)

#8 abaudrand OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:22 PM

Ok We checked the output in Pin 16 and there is no signal at all. Thanks Roland P.
So I we're gonna try to add a 1.5V battery to the wire and hope it will make the TV switch.




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