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[HatefulGravey]

The Everdrive devices were brought up in another thread, and it reminded me that there were things I have wondered about them. Rather then take that thread way off topic I thought I would start a thread about them that might help other people wondering the same things or with other questions.

Who is making these things? The reason I ask is because there are somethings that don't add up. The Sega Genesis and SNES models seem to stay backordered or out of stock, yet they released other models for other consoles. That is a great idea and I agree with expansion, however, there is more demand then can be met for what is already being produced, why expand if you can't keep up with whats already wanted?

Is there anyway to know when more will be available? The only place I know to buy them is Stone Age Gamer. Its a great site so I honestly assumed they were on top of things and would be sure to put the information out there clearly when they were available. The issue here is they tend to sell out fast, and I want one (for each system) so I need know when they will be there to buy it. Like most people with the income needed to buy this kind of thing I have a full time plus job and therefor don't have the time to check every day to see if more are there or coming.

What are the limits of the devices? I hear of concerns with certain SNES games, do all Genesis/32X games work for that Everdrive. Does the current Genesis model have the pause button for the Mastersystem stuff? I'm sure this iformation is on the site for the Everdrive, but I'm at work and can't get to that site so I'll just ask here.

Those are most of my questions. I would love to have one right now, but I always miss my window. I don't want to miss the next window and with this information and maybe some background on the people making these things I'll know how to get one next time.

[StoneAgeGamer]

HatefulGravey, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:22 AM, said:

The Everdrive devices were brought up in another thread, and it reminded me that there were things I have wondered about them. Rather then take that thread way off topic I thought I would start a thread about them that might help other people wondering the same things or with other questions.

Who is making these things? The reason I ask is because there are somethings that don't add up. The Sega Genesis and SNES models seem to stay backordered or out of stock, yet they released other models for other consoles. That is a great idea and I agree with expansion, however, there is more demand then can be met for what is already being produced, why expand if you can't keep up with whats already wanted?

Is there anyway to know when more will be available? The only place I know to buy them is Stone Age Gamer. Its a great site so I honestly assumed they were on top of things and would be sure to put the information out there clearly when they were available. The issue here is they tend to sell out fast, and I want one (for each system) so I need know when they will be there to buy it. Like most people with the income needed to buy this kind of thing I have a full time plus job and therefor don't have the time to check every day to see if more are there or coming.

What are the limits of the devices? I hear of concerns with certain SNES games, do all Genesis/32X games work for that Everdrive. Does the current Genesis model have the pause button for the Mastersystem stuff? I'm sure this iformation is on the site for the Everdrive, but I'm at work and can't get to that site so I'll just ask here.

Those are most of my questions. I would love to have one right now, but I always miss my window. I don't want to miss the next window and with this information and maybe some background on the people making these things I'll know how to get one next time.

Many of these items are back order-able. I will clarify here:

• Pre-order: It means this is a new product that is coming out soon and you can order before we get it. We don't do pre-ordering on EverDrives since so few are made at a time.
  
• Back Order: We don't have any physically in stock, but we know some are headed our way and you can order them. Once we get them in and assembled we will ship to you.
  
• Out of Stock: We don't have any and we are still waiting on confirmation that some are shipping to us.
  
• If its not marked as any of the above we have them in stock!

Who makes these? A man named Igor in the Ukraine makes them. He is only one guy. Why doesn't he have some big company make them? Well because of the nature of the product. Some of these products require donor chips from carts. For example for DSP-1 compatibility in the Super EverDrive requires DSP-1 games for donor chips. These game are not rare, but there is no one on eBay selling "100 lot of DSP-1 SNES games". This means we have to order each one individually, take carts apart, send boards to Ukraine and then wait for Super EverDrives to come back to us. I do about 30 of these at a time, but it is a very time consuming process.

Same goes for the EverDrive64 that is coming out soon at our store. It requires a CIC chip from donor carts to operating on a specific region.

You may ask. "Well why don't you just buy 200 EverDrives and not worry about stock!" Simple, Igor changes things sometimes. If I order 200 boards and he changes something or makes something better on the PCB then I have 200 useless boards that people probably won't even pay cost for.

As for the limits of these devices, this has been discussed on many threads on many forums, many YouTube videos, no point in rehashing this.

Yes the current EverDrive-MD has SMS pause button. It states this on the EverDrive-MD page on our site.

If you are looking for just the board the maker sells them himself and there are other stores out there that sell them. Krikzz.com should have that info for you. If you are looking for Deluxe or Ultimate Editions we are only company that sells them.

[Emehr]

I'm possibly interested in getting the Genesis and SNES Everdrives also. I'd be interested in seeing a list of released games, if any, that don't work.

[StoneAgeGamer]

There is an EverDrive category over on AssemblerGames.com. In there are topics about games that people found not to be compatible. If you have anymore questions, especially technical ones this is the place to ask. The creator is on these forums and will answer your questions. If he doesn't someone else probably will.

If you have specific questions on stock, etc. related to my store you can always PM me, e-mail me, and even IM me. All this information is on Contact Us area of the site. We also post news on our Facebook and Twitter pages. I agree maybe the site should be more informative about some things, but honestly I am in the middle of trying to migrate this site to completely different software while redesigning it as well. I don't have a ton of time to be putting a lot of content on a site that will be gone in 3 or 4 months.

If for some reason you did e-mail us and it was somehow missed I apologize.

The EverDrive-MD does not have many games that are not compatible (Virtua Racing [Genesis version], and a few games that use a specific saving method), however the Super EverDrive has a little bit larger incompatible list because many special chips used in SNES games. The only special chip that is supported is DSP-1.

[HatefulGravey]

Thanks for the informative reply. I didn't mean to imply that anything about your site was less then I desire from it. I actually find it very easy to use and informative. I knew the information on the pause button was available on your site, but I just can't get there from work.

Its good to know I can order them in back order status. I don't like putting money out there and waiting weeks or more for a product but if this is the only way to get them I guess I will. Nothing scares me more then "back ordered" on the internet. The few items I took that chance on arrived as much as 6 months later and by then I had forgotten they were coming. Granted, I have never ordered anything back ordered from your site so I'll get on that. I should be goon to hang that money out there at the end of the week. Is there any idea how long it takes from payment to Everdrive at the front door right now? Either way, I'll surely be buying a delux set up from your site. It looks nice and there is less work in it for me, that is bi-winning.

I'll have to look into the SNES version a little more if there are more compatablity issues with it. I feel certain it is still well worth the money, but I like to know what I'm getting before I get it.

Again, thanks for the information. With a little luck I'll be ordering one for the Genesis soonish.

[StoneAgeGamer]

HatefulGravey, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:48 AM, said:

Thanks for the informative reply. I didn't mean to imply that anything about your site was less then I desire from it. I actually find it very easy to use and informative. I knew the information on the pause button was available on your site, but I just can't get there from work.

Its good to know I can order them in back order status. I don't like putting money out there and waiting weeks or more for a product but if this is the only way to get them I guess I will. Nothing scares me more then "back ordered" on the internet. The few items I took that chance on arrived as much as 6 months later and by then I had forgotten they were coming. Granted, I have never ordered anything back ordered from your site so I'll get on that. I should be goon to hang that money out there at the end of the week. Is there any idea how long it takes from payment to Everdrive at the front door right now? Either way, I'll surely be buying a delux set up from your site. It looks nice and there is less work in it for me, that is bi-winning.

I'll have to look into the SNES version a little more if there are more compatablity issues with it. I feel certain it is still well worth the money, but I like to know what I'm getting before I get it.

Again, thanks for the information. With a little luck I'll be ordering one for the Genesis soonish.

Regarding most of the compatibility issues with the SNES version there is nothing that can be done about them. At least not cost effectively. Its just because the SNES used so many special chips in the games. The Genesis only ever used one and that was for VR.

As for back ordering from us, we state an ETA right on the site. To be clear though this is an ETA on when we will get them, not when you will get them since that's almost impossible to guess since we have many international customers as well. We do keep customers updated via e-mails once we have the boards and when they will ship by.

We are not going to screw with you. You can also cancel and get a full refund anytime before it ships. We normally respond to e-mails within 1 business day, but often within a few hours. I understand not liking to pay so much money upfront, but this software has no back order/pre-order solution and to manually do it and then track everyone down for payment would be a real hassle.

[Hatta]

HatefulGravey, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:48 AM, said:

I'll have to look into the SNES version a little more if there are more compatablity issues with it. I feel certain it is still well worth the money, but I like to know what I'm getting before I get it.

I don't think you'll find a more capable cart anywhere. As far as I'm aware, all currently produced SNES flash carts (Everdrive, PowerPak, and Neo Myth) support the DSP-1 chip, but no other extra chips. That means the compatibility lists are going to look very similar.

[Rex Dart]

HatefulGravey, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:22 AM, said:

The Sega Genesis and SNES models seem to stay backordered or out of stock, yet they released other models for other consoles. That is a great idea and I agree with expansion, however, there is more demand then can be met for what is already being produced, why expand if you can't keep up with whats already wanted?

I understand that StoneAgeGamer, as a seller of these products, is not inclined to tell you this, but there are other retailers who do keep these in stock. They're not as nice a product as SAG sells; they lack the nice case, custom label, plastic cartridge shell that SAG provides, but they do have something in stock, which might be good enough for you.

Check it out at the site of the dude making them, he's got a list of a few retailers.

[wood_jl]

I will vouch for StoneAgeGamer and the "back ordered" business.

I first got lucky and got the top-end SNES unit with the DSP in it, shipped right away because he had them in stock at the time. He posted a message on here that he had a couple and some other well-known AA user got one (forgot his name) and I got one. It is excellent, and it plays a hell of a lot of games, and the list it will not play ain't that bad, and is understandable. Getting the one with the DSP significantly increases the number that play. This is an incredible device. Nobody is going to create a special cartridge with ALL of the chips to play a few oddball games - it would cost many hundreds of $$$, and you'd be better off getting the DSP-enhanced Everdrive and the few games that it won't play from Ebay for a tiny fraction of that.

You can look on Wikipedia for a list of what will not play......

List of Super NES enhancement chips

.....and I believe any that are listed as "DSP" and "DSP-1" will play, and the others will not (someone please correct if I am inaccurate). There are really not many.

I bought the Everdrive MD (for the Genesis) under "backordered" status and he keeps you VERY well informed with notification on when it is ready to ship, ships with tracking, etc.

The quality of the package is undeniably great. The cartridges look absolutely professional, with neatly-cut slot for SD card, beautiful labeling, a nice case, labeled SD card. It looks like a "real" retail product. It's a far cry from getting "just a board" but it's nice that option is available too.

I have yet to try my Everdrive MD (soon, need to dig out the SG) but the SNES with DSP is EXCELLENT and although I wouldn't call it "cheap" it brings a real smile to the face. Hell, it's definitely worth the price of TWO Xbox 360/PS3 new-release games.

[Rex Dart]

wood_jl, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:36 PM, said:

Nobody is going to create a special cartridge with ALL of the chips to play a few oddball games - it would cost many hundreds of $$$, and you'd be better off getting the DSP-enhanced Everdrive and the few games that it won't play from Ebay for a tiny fraction of that.

Well, somebody could certainly make a cart with an FPGA that's programmed to act as any and all of those specialized chips. That's probably next as far as SNES carts go, eh?

[HatefulGravey]

Oh, I certainly agree that the SAG package is great and I will be buying that when I buy one for sure. Maybe we can all do an availablity dance and get things rolling.

Like I said earlier, at the end of the week I'll have some extra money to just let hang out there until I get something in the mail for it. Maybe I'll go ahead and order a Harmony Cart, I've been thinking about one of those for a while now too.

[Hatta]

wood_jl, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:36 PM, said:

Nobody is going to create a special cartridge with ALL of the chips to play a few oddball games

I don't think it will happen any time soon, but it will happen eventually. As FPGA prices improve it will be feasible to implement all the chips you want on the FPGA. Then it's just a matter of getting VHDL implementations of the chip. C(++) implementations exist, or we wouldn't have emulators. So it's a matter of someone getting motivated to look at what the C(++) does and do that in VHDL.

All in all, it's going to be a matter of time. There's nothing that needs to be done for the SNES that hasn't already been done for other systems. Look at the Chameleon for the C64, for instance. But I absolutely do NOT recommend waiting for such an uberdevice. It's could be another 20 years before someone takes up the challenge.

[thegoldenband]

Rex Dart, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:16 PM, said:

I understand that StoneAgeGamer, as a seller of these products, is not inclined to tell you this, but there are other retailers who do keep these in stock. They're not as nice a product as SAG sells; they lack the nice case, custom label, plastic cartridge shell that SAG provides, but they do have something in stock, which might be good enough for you.

Check it out at the site of the dude making them, he's got a list of a few retailers.

SAG was quite upfront about this:

StoneAgeGamer, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:14 AM, said:

If you are looking for just the board the maker sells them himself and there are other stores out there that sell them. Krikzz.com should have that info for you. If you are looking for Deluxe or Ultimate Editions we are only company that sells them.

BTW I have the SNES EverDrive Deluxe Edition, purchased secondhand from an AA member, and it's quite well-done and cleanly put together -- much prettier than my homemade Genesis EverDrive.

Anyway, the bottom line on compatibility AFAIK is:

EverDrive Genesis - all Genesis games work except Virtua Racing (which will never work); around a dozen games (mostly sports) use EEPROM for saving and won't save without a hack (and most have been hacked); all 32X games work normally; all SMS games work except for a bare handful of games that aren't supported on MD at all (usually because they use SG-1000 video modes, e.g. a few Korean unlicensed games and F-16 Fighting Falcon) -- see here for a list

EDIT: There are also some Chinese unlicensed games that I've had problems with, but that's not the EverDrive's fault and generally relates to copy protection hardware and/or intentionally breaking compatibility with the Model 2/TMSS systems; see here for information on that.

EverDrive SNES - as others have noted, games that use custom chips won't work (see list here): 25 US games, 2 Euro games, and 37 Japanese games, plus the unreleased Star Fox 2; make that 19/2/27 if you get a cart with DSP-1; most are cheap on the used market, and honestly, the unsupported Japanese games are mostly goofy racers and Shogi games

EverDrive SMS - can't say firsthand, but from what I've read, the only compatibility issues are PAL vs. NTSC problems that you'd get with real carts anyway (see here for more information); all SG-1000 games work, though with incorrect colors (as will always happen on any SMS), except for The Castle (which uses added RAM on the cartridge)

EverDrive GG - don't know; are there custom palettes for SG-1000 games?

EverDrive 64 - AFAIK, all games are supported except two games that use unusual CIC chips: Jet Force Gemini (which has been hacked to work) and Banjo-Tooie (which probably can be if it hasn't already)

Edited by thegoldenband, Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:27 PM.

[StoneAgeGamer]

Rex Dart, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:50 PM, said:

wood_jl, on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:36 PM, said:

Nobody is going to create a special cartridge with ALL of the chips to play a few oddball games - it would cost many hundreds of $$$, and you'd be better off getting the DSP-enhanced Everdrive and the few games that it won't play from Ebay for a tiny fraction of that.

Well, somebody could certainly make a cart with an FPGA that's programmed to act as any and all of those specialized chips. That's probably next as far as SNES carts go, eh?

People have been trying to do this for quite awhile. I believe there is a project called SD2SNES or something like that, which was an attempt to do this. However I think the only chips they have been able to emulate are the DSP chips (think there's 4 of them). DSP-2, DSP-3, and DSP-4 are only used in one game each respectively I believe. However the FPGA hardware I heard they were using is pretty pricey. Reverse engineering these chips is not easy.

In the end it most likely could be possible, but economically probably wouldn't be practical as a product in the near future. This is not to say it won't ever happen of course. I know Igor has stated he has little interest in doing this just because of the huge R&D, time, and cost involved.

[Underball]

I ordered mine from Kitsch-bent, the first online reseller Igor (Krikzz) started using. Cheaper list price than others who are reselling the Everdrive. Shipping was blazing fast.

It didn't come with a cart or a case, but what Genesis collector out there doesn't have at least one unwanted sports title to sacrifice for this? 2 minutes with a small pair of wirecutters (to cut the hole for the SD card) and a soldering iron (to make a round hole for the SMS pause button) and I was in business. There are a dozen or so already made labels you can print out on a sticky paper and apply to it.

[StoneAgeGamer]

Underball, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:09 AM, said:

I ordered mine from Kitsch-bent, the first online reseller Igor (Krikzz) started using. Cheaper list price than others who are reselling the Everdrive. Shipping was blazing fast.

It didn't come with a cart or a case, but what Genesis collector out there doesn't have at least one unwanted sports title to sacrifice for this? 2 minutes with a small pair of wirecutters (to cut the hole for the SD card) and a soldering iron (to make a round hole for the SMS pause button) and I was in business. There are a dozen or so already made labels you can print out on a sticky paper and apply to it.

There are plenty of people that want a more professional package and are not interested in doing it themselves. The EverDrive-MD Deluxe Edition is a huge seller because of this. The great thing about the ED is that you have the choice of doing it yourself or not.

[Underball]

StoneAgeGamer, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:52 PM, said:

Underball, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:09 AM, said:

I ordered mine from Kitsch-bent, the first online reseller Igor (Krikzz) started using. Cheaper list price than others who are reselling the Everdrive. Shipping was blazing fast.

It didn't come with a cart or a case, but what Genesis collector out there doesn't have at least one unwanted sports title to sacrifice for this? 2 minutes with a small pair of wirecutters (to cut the hole for the SD card) and a soldering iron (to make a round hole for the SMS pause button) and I was in business. There are a dozen or so already made labels you can print out on a sticky paper and apply to it.

There are plenty of people that want a more professional package and are not interested in doing it themselves. The EverDrive-MD Deluxe Edition is a huge seller because of this. The great thing about the ED is that you have the choice of doing it yourself or not.

You have no idea how professional or not mine looks. You're just assuming yours is better. I don't want to get into an argument with you. I get that most of the reason you're here is to promote your product.

[goldenegg]

Underball, on Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:29 AM, said:

StoneAgeGamer, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:52 PM, said:

Underball, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:09 AM, said:

I ordered mine from Kitsch-bent, the first online reseller Igor (Krikzz) started using. Cheaper list price than others who are reselling the Everdrive. Shipping was blazing fast.

It didn't come with a cart or a case, but what Genesis collector out there doesn't have at least one unwanted sports title to sacrifice for this? 2 minutes with a small pair of wirecutters (to cut the hole for the SD card) and a soldering iron (to make a round hole for the SMS pause button) and I was in business. There are a dozen or so already made labels you can print out on a sticky paper and apply to it.

There are plenty of people that want a more professional package and are not interested in doing it themselves. The EverDrive-MD Deluxe Edition is a huge seller because of this. The great thing about the ED is that you have the choice of doing it yourself or not.

You have no idea how professional or not mine looks. You're just assuming yours is better. I don't want to get into an argument with you. I get that most of the reason you're here is to promote your product.

StoneAgeGamer wasn't putting down your cart. He was simply explaining why some stores, like the one you purchased from, offer a cheaper price. No reason to get bent out of shape about it.

[OldSchoolRetroGamer]

Underball, on Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:29 AM, said:

You have no idea how professional or not mine looks. You're just assuming yours is better. I don't want to get into an argument with you. I get that most of the reason you're here is to promote your product.

Nothing in his statement implied yours does not look professional or his is better, your taking it the wrong way. I am sure his point is that there are people willing to pay to have a professional looking product without having to assemble it themselves, he even ended by saying the great thing about ED is having the choice to do it yourself or not.

update: @goldenegg, ah looks like you just beat me to it. That's cool then, just shows we agree.
I will just add then, unlike a certain other retailer ( *cough* OLDSKOOLFOOL ) who used to come here and do everything to hock his wares (I don't see him much anymore, he was not very welcomed) Stoneagegamer's made many posts here and other gaming sites non-related to selling his product. He is a classic gamer as much as you or I who just happens to run a related business, he is not faking it, he is the real deal and I have seen enough of his posts to see that here and elsewhere.

Edited by OldSchoolRetroGamer, Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:11 AM.

[StoneAgeGamer]

Underball, on Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:29 AM, said:

StoneAgeGamer, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:52 PM, said:

Underball, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:09 AM, said:

I ordered mine from Kitsch-bent, the first online reseller Igor (Krikzz) started using. Cheaper list price than others who are reselling the Everdrive. Shipping was blazing fast.

It didn't come with a cart or a case, but what Genesis collector out there doesn't have at least one unwanted sports title to sacrifice for this? 2 minutes with a small pair of wirecutters (to cut the hole for the SD card) and a soldering iron (to make a round hole for the SMS pause button) and I was in business. There are a dozen or so already made labels you can print out on a sticky paper and apply to it.

There are plenty of people that want a more professional package and are not interested in doing it themselves. The EverDrive-MD Deluxe Edition is a huge seller because of this. The great thing about the ED is that you have the choice of doing it yourself or not.

You have no idea how professional or not mine looks. You're just assuming yours is better. I don't want to get into an argument with you. I get that most of the reason you're here is to promote your product.

I have no idea what your problem with me is exactly and I said nothing negative about your cart or you. This isn't your first time attacking me. If you have a specific problem with me I suggest PMing me with your issue. I would be glad to discuss it.

I do contribute to this community (I have almost 1000 posts) and the majority of my posts have nothing to do with selling anything. I did not make this thread and I have expressly stated before that I refrain from posting too many threads or posts regarding what I have for sale even when people ask me to keep the posted on new products and stock. However I feel that if my store is mentioned in a thread, especially a thread asking questions that I can answer it may be a good idea to try and answer those questions.

Did I say anything bad about any of the other retailers who sell this product? No. In fact in my original post I actually directed him where he could find other retailers that sell it.

[TheGameCollector]

Hey here's a good question. Since the Everdrive for Genesis works with Sega Master System games, does that mean it also works for Game Gear .gg format roms? If not, what about changing all the file extensions on the Game Gear to .sms like it works for emulators?

[StoneAgeGamer]

TheGameCollector, on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:04 PM, said:

Hey here's a good question. Since the Everdrive for Genesis works with Sega Master System games, does that mean it also works for Game Gear .gg format roms? If not, what about changing all the file extensions on the Game Gear to .sms like it works for emulators?

No it won't work. Game Gear has much larger color palette than Genesis and I do not beleive the Genesis is not compatible with the GG to my knowledge.

[Underball]

goldenegg, on Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:55 AM, said:

Underball, on Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:29 AM, said:

StoneAgeGamer, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:52 PM, said:

Underball, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:09 AM, said:

I ordered mine from Kitsch-bent, the first online reseller Igor (Krikzz) started using. Cheaper list price than others who are reselling the Everdrive. Shipping was blazing fast.

It didn't come with a cart or a case, but what Genesis collector out there doesn't have at least one unwanted sports title to sacrifice for this? 2 minutes with a small pair of wirecutters (to cut the hole for the SD card) and a soldering iron (to make a round hole for the SMS pause button) and I was in business. There are a dozen or so already made labels you can print out on a sticky paper and apply to it.

There are plenty of people that want a more professional package and are not interested in doing it themselves. The EverDrive-MD Deluxe Edition is a huge seller because of this. The great thing about the ED is that you have the choice of doing it yourself or not.

You have no idea how professional or not mine looks. You're just assuming yours is better. I don't want to get into an argument with you. I get that most of the reason you're here is to promote your product.

StoneAgeGamer wasn't putting down your cart. He was simply explaining why some stores, like the one you purchased from, offer a cheaper price. No reason to get bent out of shape about it.

He replied directly to my post, quoting it, stating that most people want a more professional package.

More professional than what????

Maybe I took it the wrong way from some people's point of view, but when you quote someone on these boards, it's inferred that you are replying directly to their comment. I didn't critique his work, or his store. I only mentioned that I had a good experience with the vendor I bought from. I guess I just didn't understand teh need for the "more professional" comment.

Edited by Underball, Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:00 PM.

[TheGameCollector]

StoneAgeGamer, on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:10 PM, said:

TheGameCollector, on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:04 PM, said:

Hey here's a good question. Since the Everdrive for Genesis works with Sega Master System games, does that mean it also works for Game Gear .gg format roms? If not, what about changing all the file extensions on the Game Gear to .sms like it works for emulators?

No it won't work. Game Gear has much larger color palette than Genesis and I do not beleive the Genesis is not compatible with the GG to my knowledge.

Hmm, looks like I am still in the market for that Game Gear RGB out mod and capacitor change.

[goldenegg]

Underball, on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:56 PM, said:

He replied directly to my post, quoting it, stating that most people want a more professional package.

More professional than what????

Maybe I took it the wrong way from some people's point of view, but when you quote someone on these boards, it's inferred that you are replying directly to their comment. I didn't critique his work, or his store. I only mentioned that I had a good experience with the vendor I bought from. I guess I just didn't understand teh need for the "more professional" comment.

Again, you're reading way more in to his reply than was intended. Yes, he quoted you because he was responding to you. You wrote:

Underball, on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:09 AM, said:

Cheaper list price than others who are reselling the Everdrive. Shipping was blazing fast.

It didn't come with a cart or a case, but what Genesis collector out there doesn't have at least one unwanted sports title to sacrifice for this?

He simply replied that some people don't want to buy a bare cart and would prefer to spent more for a complete "more professional" package. There was nothing in his reply that even came close to putting down your cart in any fashion.

If you want to start bending words, you could easily read in to what you posted as saying "Genesis collectors would be stupid to spend more on a ED with a shell, as they should have everything they need to make it themselves". I don't think you intended it to come across that way, but it could seem like that to some people. Plain text on a computer monitor can be read in a million different ways.

So now how about you and SAG hug, shake hands and make up