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[Griever]

For a good Jaguar Emulator i would even pay. But it's not the point if it's free or comercial, or if he spend 100 hours or just 2. It's just that (as i see in this forum not just my opinion) it doesn't improve the JAG-Emulation and it's better not to release it, or better, keep it for himself. I guess in this status, no one would miss it at all...

Edited by Griever, Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:47 AM.

[LinkoVitch]

Griever, on Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:58 AM, said:

AND WELL EXPERIENCED WIT ALL OTHER EMULATORS, so i can give good hints at least and healthy critical, what should help at least and not demotivate or insult someone.

And you did none of these things that you claimed you could do, you simply slated the emulator and insulted it's author.

None of what you said was constructive or healthy criticism.

[GroovyBee]

Griever, on Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:45 AM, said:

For a good Jaguar Emulator i would even pay.

I bet you wouldn't pay the full commercial rate for its development.

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But it's not the point if it's free or comercial, or if he spend 100 hours or just 2. It's just that (as i see in this forum not just my opinion) it doesn't improve the JAG-Emulation and it's better not to release it, or better, keep it for himself.

Agreed! It is "your opinion" and not the gospel, truth or the law . Other people have different opinions.

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I guess in this status, no one would miss it at all...

Except you, otherwise you wouldn't be on here complaining about it.

[CyranoJ]

Griever, on Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:45 AM, said:

it doesn't improve the JAG-Emulation

Actually, having written test code for Shamus to track down problems, I cant tell you with 100% certainty that it does improve Jaguar Emulation

[Griever]

Healthy criticism = The emulator doesn't improve (At least could add fullscreen-Support) compare with R391. is that not healthy criticsm for example? It's also a way of constructive, because i ask about fullscreen and about Joystick-support. Or want me to do that do be constructive at least? I don't feel to do it like you, just don't say anything to the programer even you know, this Version of the VJ doesn't help the Jaguar-Emulation...

But maybe it's enough now and it's time to say to all the people who like it - Have much fun with it!! Cheers

Edited by Griever, Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:12 AM.

[Griever]

"I bet you wouldn't pay the full commercial rate for its development."

Developing a good emu is also a good practice for programers. Dio did this for himself (example). If it needs to be a comercial one, and i decide to buy it, it wouldn't be that expensive, because all users need to pay a their fee, like let's say the way AMIGA-Forever or Magical Engine do it for example..

okay i agree, i complained enough about it so far. So for all who like it - Enjoy playing it and have a lot of fun with it.

Edited by Griever, Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:15 AM.

[GroovyBee]

Griever, on Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:04 AM, said:

Healthy criticism = The emulator doesn't improve (At least could add fullscreen-Support) compare with R391. is that not healthy criticsm for example?

Healthy criticism is not saying this :-

Griever, on Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:30 AM, said:

NO FULLSCREEN, NO JOYPAD-SUPPORT ? ! ? - What's that? it's just R391. . . 4get this please. Better spend your time with something else.

But saying :-

"I've tested the emulator and it doesn't support full screen or USB joypad. Are these features going to be in a future version?"

That way you don't come off looking like a lady part and insulting the developer at the same time.

[LinkoVitch]

Griever, on Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:04 AM, said:

It's also a way of constructive, because i ask about fullscreen and about Joystick-support. Or want me to do that do be constructive at least? I don't feel to do it like you, just don't say anything to the programer even you know, this Version of the VJ doesn't help the Jaguar-Emulation...

They way you said it was not constructive. Groovy has beaten me to this point

As for not saying anything to the programmer, you are making assumptions, I have spoken to the programmer several times and even sent him demo Jaguar code.

Producing an accurate and fully functional Jag Emu will do a great deal for the Jaguar community as a whole, not just for people who want to play ROMs. Having an accurate emulation of the real hardware can be extremely useful for developing on the Jaguar. I'd much rather the developer worked on the core of the emulator and got it right, rather then polished it's GUI and left it with a naff core.

[Christos]

Exactly what Linkovitch said. For developing, an accurate emulator is vital. There is absolutely no point in having a program running on an emulator and then having it fail on the real machine, as it is the case with many emulators of various other machines that are actually pretty good on their own right. Virtual jaguar is a work in progress, it has a stated goal and eventually it will reach it. What you are criticising is the current state of the affairs and in a very superficial manner -if I may add- without knowing what changed inside the code.