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[sermajic]

will we see Harmony 2 or ultimate sd 7800 first?

Edited by sermajic, Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:03 PM.

[Rex Dart]

Yes

[sermajic]

i guess we will have ultimate sd 7800 very soon

hermony 2 is taking sooooooooo long

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:11 PM, said:

will we see Harmony 2 or ultimate sd 7800 first?

Edited by sermajic, Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:03 PM.

[Jinks]

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:02 PM, said:

i guess we will have ultimate sd 7800 very soon

hermony 2 is taking sooooooooo long

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:11 PM, said:

will we see Harmony 2 or ultimate sd 7800 first?

What is the ultimate sd 7800??????

[Shawn Sr.]

Jinks, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:06 PM, said:

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:02 PM, said:

i guess we will have ultimate sd 7800 very soon

hermony 2 is taking sooooooooo long

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:11 PM, said:

will we see Harmony 2 or ultimate sd 7800 first?

What is the ultimate sd 7800??????

I'll second the motion for more info on this "ultimate SD" as I've not been keeping up to date on things for the last while
and I'm very intrested.

[horseboy]

Shawn Sr., on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:51 PM, said:

Jinks, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:06 PM, said:

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:02 PM, said:

i guess we will have ultimate sd 7800 very soon

hermony 2 is taking sooooooooo long

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:11 PM, said:

will we see Harmony 2 or ultimate sd 7800 first?

What is the ultimate sd 7800??????

I'll second the motion for more info on this "ultimate SD" as I've not been keeping up to date on things for the last while
and I'm very intrested.

Thirdeded

[sermajic]

Just hopes that atarimax surprises us with another quick/deluxe sd multicart,
After colecovision and 5200 ultimate sd carts...

Begging steve!

[dwane413]

In the H2 thread, Batari said:

batari, on Thu Jun 2, 2011 8:38 PM, said:

I will have some time to continue work on this shortly. Hopefully I will have something by the end of the summer.

My regular Harmony cartridge is great. So if I decide to buy an sd cart for the 7800, I would want it to be made by the same people.

Since I haven't used any other flash carts, I don't know how the ones made by Atarimax operate. After writing that, I read the Formatting your SD Card page from the Atarimax website and watched the following video and was impressed.



Still, I'd go with the Harmony 2, because I know more about it.

[sermajic]

dwane413, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:30 PM, said:

In the H2 thread, Batari said:

batari, on Thu Jun 2, 2011 8:38 PM, said:

I will have some time to continue work on this shortly. Hopefully I will have something by the end of the summer.

My regular Harmony cartridge is great. So if I decide to buy an sd cart for the 7800, I would want it to be made by the same people.

Since I haven't used any other flash carts, I don't know how the ones made by Atarimax operate. After writing that, I read the Formatting your SD Card page from the Atarimax website and watched the following video and was impressed.



Still, I'd go with the Harmony 2, because I know more about it.

personally have both products,
even bought lots of harmony carts "just in case",

but i feel atarimax sd carts have superior quality/presentation
(leds,nice labels.lots of ram ,streaming levels from sd and so on...)

will eventually buy harmony 2 too if it ever comes out though

[atarian63]

time to sell my cuttle cart

[Underball]

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:44 PM, said:

Just hopes that atarimax surprises us with another quick/deluxe sd multicart,
After colecovision and 5200 ultimate sd carts...

Begging steve!

So there really isn't any validity to this idea at all past you wanting one.

and you're the guy who insulted Bob the other day repeatedly.

[sermajic]

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:26 AM, said:

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:44 PM, said:

Just hopes that atarimax surprises us with another quick/deluxe sd multicart,
After colecovision and 5200 ultimate sd carts...

Begging steve!

So there really isn't any validity to this idea at all past you wanting one.

and you're the guy who insulted Bob the other day repeatedly.

insulted?
where did you see me insult?

and there's a lot more to this "idea" than you know

[Underball]

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:31 AM, said:

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:26 AM, said:

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:44 PM, said:

Just hopes that atarimax surprises us with another quick/deluxe sd multicart,
After colecovision and 5200 ultimate sd carts...

Begging steve!

So there really isn't any validity to this idea at all past you wanting one.

and you're the guy who insulted Bob the other day repeatedly.

insulted?
where did you see me insult?

and there's a lot more to this "idea" than you know

The post where you told him to get a life, which the moderators then removed.

[sermajic]

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:11 AM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:31 AM, said:

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:26 AM, said:

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:44 PM, said:

Just hopes that atarimax surprises us with another quick/deluxe sd multicart,
After colecovision and 5200 ultimate sd carts...

Begging steve!

So there really isn't any validity to this idea at all past you wanting one.

and you're the guy who insulted Bob the other day repeatedly.

insulted?
where did you see me insult?

and there's a lot more to this "idea" than you know

The post where you told him to get a life, which the moderators then removed.

quite the opposite, they removed bob`s post because he insulted me
i think he`s a terrific programmer, though i agree with many of you that "a box is a box...!"

about THIS topic

its just a question of which one comes first
-i'll buy both though-

[batari]

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:41 PM, said:

personally have both products,
even bought lots of harmony carts "just in case",

but i feel atarimax sd carts have superior quality/presentation
(leds,nice labels.lots of ram ,streaming levels from sd and so on...)

will eventually buy harmony 2 too if it ever comes out though

I agree that AtariMax products are excellent in every sense of the word (which I really can't say for "other" flash cart creators that some have suggested would come before H2.) If AtariMax made a 7800 cart, it would be a serious competitor for H2.

But, I have to say that you can't really compare the (2600) Harmony with AtariMax carts. They are for different systems and Harmony costs half of what AtariMax carts do.

Also, Harmony features are no indication of what H2 features will be. H2 has 16 times the memory, a much faster, more capable MCU, and the list goes on. There will be at least one feature in H2 that (to my knowledge) no other flash cart for a classic system has ever had.

What's wrong with Harmony labels?

But, you are right in one sense. H2 has no LEDs

[sermajic]

don`t get me wrong! Batari !
i`m the one who made you ship several pairs of harmony carts to Argentina to store them as spairs
"just in case"

(same thing with all Atarimax 's carts,wich i prefer by the way)

i totally love your product,
just wished it was more feature packed, regardless the price ,

the "deluxe" option was no luxury at all,
with the same gray label and regular case
and that 32k limit in the 21 st century...

but then again its one of my favourite toys,
well beyond many of my classic cars

batari, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:40 PM, said:

sermajic, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:41 PM, said:

personally have both products,
even bought lots of harmony carts "just in case",

but i feel atarimax sd carts have superior quality/presentation
(leds,nice labels.lots of ram ,streaming levels from sd and so on...)

will eventually buy harmony 2 too if it ever comes out though

I agree that AtariMax products are excellent in every sense of the word (which I really can't say for "other" flash cart creators that some have suggested would come before H2.) If AtariMax made a 7800 cart, it would be a serious competitor for H2.

But, I have to say that you can't really compare the (2600) Harmony with AtariMax carts. They are for different systems and Harmony costs half of what AtariMax carts do.

Also, Harmony features are no indication of what H2 features will be. H2 has 16 times the memory, a much faster, more capable MCU, and the list goes on. There will be at least one feature in H2 that (to my knowledge) no other flash cart for a classic system has ever had.

What's wrong with Harmony labels?

But, you are right in one sense. H2 has no LEDs

Edited by sermajic, Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:04 PM.

[Underball]

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

i`m the one who made you ship several pairs of harmony carts to Argentina to store them as spairs

Now it all makes perfect sense.

[sermajic]

so what?

you never know for how long that kind of product will remain available

it happened with many chad schell's products in the past

i try to never repeat mistakes...

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:04 PM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

i`m the one who made you ship several pairs of harmony carts to Argentina to store them as spairs

Now it all makes perfect sense.

[wood_jl]

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

i totally love your product,
just wished it was more feature packed, regardless the price ,

Well, not everyone wants more features. I think the Harmony cart is absolutely PERFECT the way it is. It's an excellent balance of features and cost. I see no need for LEDs and extra crap that would increase complexity and therefore cost. Seeing as how it plays everything I've tried, I'm not sure what's missing. If it's LEDs I'm after, I see you can buy shoes that have blinking LEDs in them - little kids wear them around here.

I am also a big fan of the Atarimax products, I should say. I'm glad they're both available, even though they're not the same thing.

[sermajic]

i totally respect your opinion!

but the higher priced Harmony version was not that much better,with only a cable for that price

wood_jl, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:12 PM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

i totally love your product,
just wished it was more feature packed, regardless the price ,

Well, not everyone wants more features. I think the Harmony cart is absolutely PERFECT the way it is. It's an excellent balance of features and cost. I see no need for LEDs and extra crap that would increase complexity and therefore cost. Seeing as how it plays everything I've tried, I'm not sure what's missing. If it's LEDs I'm after, I see you can buy shoes that have blinking LEDs in them - little kids wear them around here.

I am also a big fan of the Atarimax products, I should say. I'm glad they're both available, even though they're not the same thing.

[Underball]

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:12 PM, said:

so what?

you never know for how long that kind of product will remain available

it happened with many chad schell's products in the past

i try to never repeat mistakes...

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:04 PM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

i`m the one who made you ship several pairs of harmony carts to Argentina to store them as spairs

Now it all makes perfect sense.

No, I meant now I understand why you're being so rude to people like Bob and batari who've worked their asses off to produce quality products. It's because you're from Argentina. I should know, my wife is from Argentina and almost all of her family is the same way. Always offering up unwanted opinions, delivered in the most rude manner possible.

Edited by Underball, Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:26 PM.

[sermajic]

well

i find the blue access led in my Atarimax`s carts very useful by the way,
many times i thought my atari was freezing,
when indeed it was readind many files/directories

wood_jl, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:12 PM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

i totally love your product,
just wished it was more feature packed, regardless the price ,

Well, not everyone wants more features. I think the Harmony cart is absolutely PERFECT the way it is. It's an excellent balance of features and cost. I see no need for LEDs and extra crap that would increase complexity and therefore cost. Seeing as how it plays everything I've tried, I'm not sure what's missing. If it's LEDs I'm after, I see you can buy shoes that have blinking LEDs in them - little kids wear them around here.

I am also a big fan of the Atarimax products, I should say. I'm glad they're both available, even though they're not the same thing.

[batari]

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

don`t get me wrong! Batari !
i`m the one who made you ship several pairs of harmony carts to Argentina to store them as spairs
"just in case"

(same thing with all Atarimax 's carts,wich i prefer by the way)

i totally love your product,
just wished it was more feature packed, regardless the price ,

the "deluxe" option was no luxury at all,
with the same gray label and regular case
and that 32k limit in the 21 st century...

but then again its one of my favourite toys,
well beyond many of my classic cars

Yes, I know who you are... You ordered so many Harmony carts I lost count

And yes, you're not the only one who didn't like the 32k limit - some of the Harmony developers also felt constrained. The reason for the 32k chip was so that Melody boards would be inexpensive enough to be feasible. Yes, there were larger chips available but they would have cost too much for Melody. I felt it was important to use the same chip in Melody and Harmony to ensure that any game developed on a Harmony could be released on a cart.

There will be no "7800 Melody" so we can use a far more expensive (and capable) chip here.

There will also be a much bigger difference between standard and deluxe H2. I'm not yet ready to divulge all of the details yet but will in time. It sounds like you'd like a different label on the Deluxe as well (that's a good idea and I will consider that.)

[sermajic]

you don`t know me , so stop judging

I`m living in Argentina now,
so that makes me rude?

i told you Bob insulted me and i never replied,
and
was never rude to Batari!

pd:
maybe divorce is your way out...

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:26 PM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:12 PM, said:

so what?

you never know for how long that kind of product will remain available

it happened with many chad schell's products in the past

i try to never repeat mistakes...

Underball, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:04 PM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

i`m the one who made you ship several pairs of harmony carts to Argentina to store them as spairs

Now it all makes perfect sense.

No, I meant now I understand why you're being so rude to people like Bob and batari who've worked their asses off to produce quality products. It's because you're from Argentina. I should know, my wife is from Argentina and almost all of her family is the same way. Always offering up unwanted opinions, delivered in the most rude manner possible.

[sermajic]

generally
i won`treally care for boxes ,labels, cases etc

but if you release a higher priced "deluxe" version
then it all starts to come to mind...

batari, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:32 PM, said:

sermajic, on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, said:

don`t get me wrong! Batari !
i`m the one who made you ship several pairs of harmony carts to Argentina to store them as spairs
"just in case"

(same thing with all Atarimax 's carts,wich i prefer by the way)

i totally love your product,
just wished it was more feature packed, regardless the price ,

the "deluxe" option was no luxury at all,
with the same gray label and regular case
and that 32k limit in the 21 st century...

but then again its one of my favourite toys,
well beyond many of my classic cars

Yes, I know who you are... You ordered so many Harmony carts I lost count

And yes, you're not the only one who didn't like the 32k limit - some of the Harmony developers also felt constrained. The reason for the 32k chip was so that Melody boards would be inexpensive enough to be feasible. Yes, there were larger chips available but they would have cost too much for Melody. I felt it was important to use the same chip in Melody and Harmony to ensure that any game developed on a Harmony could be released on a cart.

There will be no "7800 Melody" so we can use a far more expensive (and capable) chip here.

There will also be a much bigger difference between standard and deluxe H2. I'm not yet ready to divulge all of the details yet but will in time. It sounds like you'd like a different label on the Deluxe as well (that's a good idea and I will consider that.)