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Any thoughts on the new MCC? it emulates the Atari 2600 and Commodore 64


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#1 Mark Wolfe OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:10 PM

http://www.arcaderet...param=cid%3D%26

It costs around $150.00 they claim more platforms will be emulated soon, like the Amiga 500. I would assume that it should be able to do most of the Atari consoles and computers. considering the Commodore 64 has been re-released with similar modern processors under the hood, http://www.commodoreusa.net , I wonder if this is a good trend that will gain traction.

has anyone on atariage bought one of these yet? I am considering it. I'll probably wait until christmas time to see how much more development will come along for it.

I am not a huge fan of emulation on a pc. I prefer to use modded consoles for emulation or the Wii or something but this is a dedicated box that seems like it would be a great way to emulator classic computers while giving you modern connectivity.

thoughts, comments, reviews??



update: looks like the amiga 500 along with the apple II is already here:
http://www.mcc-home.com/3.html

Edited by Mark Wolfe, Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:12 PM.


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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:49 PM

I've been following this project for a while now. I've heard fairly positive things about it, but am still on the fence about getting one. I wish they'd do away with the S-Video version and offer composite instead. I know you can get a simple adapter to go from s-video to composite, but it's just an extra hassle while fewer and fewer TVs have s-video nowadays.

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:58 PM

View Postgoldenegg, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:49 PM, said:

I've been following this project for a while now. I've heard fairly positive things about it, but am still on the fence about getting one. I wish they'd do away with the S-Video version and offer composite instead. I know you can get a simple adapter to go from s-video to composite, but it's just an extra hassle while fewer and fewer TVs have s-video nowadays.

I agree and to further that point I think the vga should not be a separate thing either. gimmie vga, component, composite and s-video. but you're right. a pretty easy fix but annoying considering how much planning went into this thing.

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:28 PM

One of the main reasons I can't bring myself to buy it is that it's really no different than emulating the systems on my computer. Through dongles, I have the ability to output from my laptop using composite, VGA and HDMI. In doing so, I can also emulate pretty much every other system. I think the MCC would just be gathering dust on a shelf.

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:13 PM

We interviewed the owner of the company from the last CGE. On a past RetroGamingRoundup podcast. I will find the episode and post it here.

Edited by Parrothead, Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:14 PM.


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Posted Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:57 AM

View PostParrothead, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:13 PM, said:

We interviewed the owner of the company from the last CGE. On a past RetroGamingRoundup podcast. I will find the episode and post it here.

oh great, thank you!

someone told me via pm that the emu for the 2600 is hit or miss. the games it works with are great but others are buggy. I'm kind of shocked to hear that since the 2600 is emulated on so many platforms and for the most part they are really good. would love to hear from anyone else who bought one.

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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:46 AM

This seems to be to be a hardware version of MESS, which I consider to be a Jack of All Trades emulator.

The S-Video output seems to me to be rather overkill for the 8-bit systems. I assume his hardware is trying to convert RGB values into NTSC or PAL values. Most 8-bit systems generated NTSC or PAL color values directly, for better or worse. The artifact color of the Apple II should not work well with S-Video.

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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:54 AM

Anyone know what PD stands for? (Commodore PD games)
:P

Is it like a format (.d64) or something?

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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:56 AM

View Postcimerians, on Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:54 AM, said:

Anyone know what PD stands for? (Commodore PD games)
:P

Is it like a format (.d64) or something?

PD = Public domain, like anything in the Public domain freely available. So likely not the greatest quality games but a few gems here and there.

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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:05 AM

View PostOldSchoolRetroGamer, on Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:56 AM, said:

View Postcimerians, on Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:54 AM, said:

Anyone know what PD stands for? (Commodore PD games)
:P

Is it like a format (.d64) or something?

PD = Public domain, like anything in the Public domain freely available. So likely not the greatest quality games but a few gems here and there.

Gotcha.

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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:06 PM

View Postgoldenegg, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:28 PM, said:

One of the main reasons I can't bring myself to buy it is that it's really no different than emulating the systems on my computer. Through dongles, I have the ability to output from my laptop using composite, VGA and HDMI. In doing so, I can also emulate pretty much every other system. I think the MCC would just be gathering dust on a shelf.
The MCC could possibly be more accurate since it emulates on a lower level.

There is a thread about it on atariage: http://www.atariage....i-2600-is-back/

Edited by roland p, Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:07 PM.


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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:16 PM

View Postroland p, on Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:06 PM, said:

View Postgoldenegg, on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:28 PM, said:

One of the main reasons I can't bring myself to buy it is that it's really no different than emulating the systems on my computer. Through dongles, I have the ability to output from my laptop using composite, VGA and HDMI. In doing so, I can also emulate pretty much every other system. I think the MCC would just be gathering dust on a shelf.
The MCC could possibly be more accurate since it emulates on a lower level.

There is a thread about it on atariage: http://www.atariage....i-2600-is-back/

thank you for posting the link to the AA discussion on this. check this comment out: #139

this backs up what someone told me via private message, that the emulation of the 2600 is not very good. other comments talk about the c64 being buggy, also it seems you have to jump through hoops to add games to the sd card which seems really weird to me. I'd wasn't to research that further. perhaps tat is fixed now as this thread is from when the thing was first laucnhed

Edited by Mark Wolfe, Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:17 PM.


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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:29 PM

I'm with the "don't see the point" group. They're trying to carve a niche in an already-solid market... if you want emulated, you can get emulators, if you want real hardware, you can get it too. This thing's a weird cross between the two and I don't really see the need.

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Posted Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:34 PM

View PostRex Dart, on Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:29 PM, said:

I'm with the "don't see the point" group. They're trying to carve a niche in an already-solid market... if you want emulated, you can get emulators, if you want real hardware, you can get it too. This thing's a weird cross between the two and I don't really see the need.

I definitely see your point. I do however see the reason for it when it comes to classic computer emulation and having a stand-alone, resource smart, hardware platform for perfectly emulating classic computers but they have a LONG way to go before they get my dollars. it's just not there yet and it would need to cover more computer systems and do a much better job and be able to interface with actual hardware like a c64 disk drive or an atari disk drive, etc.




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