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[CyranoJ]

Sauron, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:31 AM, said:

Let me guess, I bet you think Reboot releasing Downfall for free and NOT selling any copies of the game was a conspiracy by the Zionist Jews to take over the world. LOL!

Oh shit, he's on to us! Quick, hide the gold!

I'd hit "report" on kevincal's posts above, not only for racist comments, but also for opening insulting almost every single homebrew coder for every platform on this forum (and pretty much every other forum out there), but Al is going to be mad enough at having to step into the Jaguar forum again anyway so I won't bother.

It was so peaceful here too.

[kevincal]

Sauron, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:31 AM, said:

kevincal, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:53 AM, said:

um 8 bit rehashes are simple graphics 2d games and rehashes means the game has already been made. so, uh, that means most jag homebrews are very simplistic 2d style games AND they are copies of games already been made LMAO. pretty pathetic to be honest. weakest graphics and copying an already existing game... how about go for graphics the jaguar is capable of and make your own friggen game without copying one!? What a concept. lol

So then, by that definition, you'd rather not see new games at all, eh? Honestly, the more you post, the more certain I am that you're either just plain flat out trolling, or that you really do have severe mental deficiencies. BTW, I'm willing to place a rather significant bet on the fact that your own opinion here is in a very small minority.

kevincal, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:53 AM, said:

like i said, i think homebrewers should spend more time on their games instead of trying to make a quick buck. people talk shit about me selling on ebay to make money well homebrewers are no different if they spend only limited time on a basic game and turn around and sell it for a decent amount of money. YES i know download is free but also real copies are sold... frog feast is probably the funnies example that comes to mind lmao but all the other ones are like simple freeware games i have played before in places like the arcade at jaguar sector...

ROFL! Yeah, you're a real brainaic there. It's quite obvious that when a group releases a game for free download AND sells copies of the game, they're only doing it for a quick buck. Let me guess, I bet you think Reboot releasing Downfall for free and NOT selling any copies of the game was a conspiracy by the Zionist Jews to take over the world. LOL!

i guess you are a zionist jew them cus you are all butt hurt LOL and who the hell are you kidding if you are trying to say they have made no money from their games, i bet they have sold hundreds of copies... sure the free download is a nice gesture but.. they are making money too or made money.

[kevincal]

and right again let me point out, its perfectly ok to talk shit about any video game as long as the people who made it are not present, but if someone talks shit about a video game and the creators are present

BAN HIM!

i love the logic there.

[sh3-rg]

kevincal, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:35 AM, said:

im not the only one who is not buying or very much interested in playing these homebrew games...

Oh, that kevincal@***.*** who attempted to buy one of our shitty 8-bit games must have been someone else, lol... he probably had a buyer lined up for a $3 mark-up - MOAR MON£Y$!

[CyranoJ]

kevincal, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:39 AM, said:

and right again let me point out, its perfectly ok to talk shit about any video game as long as the people who made it are not present, but if someone talks shit about a video game and the creators are present

BAN HIM!

i love the logic there.

This is Atari Age. You have it mistaken for another forum, methinks

[GroovyBee]

LinkoVitch, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:19 AM, said:

I wonder how many think.. "Cool, I got my idea working, not really a game there, I can just leave it like that and not work on it any more"

You dissin' UFK? (those not in attendance at the homebrew coding weekend held in Manchester won't get the joke)

[GroovyBee]

kevincal, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:39 AM, said:

and right again let me point out, its perfectly ok to talk shit about any video game as long as the people who made it are not present, but if someone talks shit about a video game and the creators are present

You've failed to distinguish the fact that those creators (of the jag back catalogue) worked full time, got paid the going rate (or above) for their time and then maybe royalties on top of that. Whereas homebrewers get paid less than minimum wage for doing the same job.

[LinkoVitch]

TBH, if someone writes a home-brew game it isn't free for them to do so. They commit their time to it, that itself has a value. Yeah a great deal of it is done for the challenge and for fun, but if a coder stopped working on a game when it wasn't fun, then I seriously doubt you would have many home-brew games of the caliber we have now. The initial part is fun, but chasing down those last few bugs, and minor tweaks can be a pain in the arse.

Some then after all their work and effort choose to give this away.. brill! and if you want to you can pay for a hard-copy or donate cash. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head to pay for it, the prices I have seen for home-brew stuff has varied from reasonable to complete piss-take, but the value of something is only what someone else is willing to pay for it. If someone makes a physical object to sell, that alone takes more time and initial outlay on purchase of materials, if it doesn't sell then its a loss to the person who has already committed their time and money. The small markup on a lot of purchasable home-brew stuff is probably still below the actual real world cost of the whole production process of that title.

Everyone is welcome to provide criticism of stuff, but saying that ALL home-brew is rubbish 8-bit remakes is a pretty sweeping and inaccurate statement, also not exactly critical. Nor does it help inform the developer what you like or dislike on the product.

Home-brew on the Jag IMHO is still in its early stages, thankfully it's building up, things are happening and being worked on, more than I have seen for many years. Some releases are going to be simple fun games, some may be groundbreaking (on the jag), we don't know yet, time will tell. Writing the whole home-brew scene off before it has truly found it's footing, that's just crazy talk.

[Sauron]

kevincal, on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:38 AM, said:

i guess you are a zionist jew them cus you are all butt hurt LOL and who the hell are you kidding if you are trying to say they have made no money from their games, i bet they have sold hundreds of copies... sure the free download is a nice gesture but.. they are making money too or made money.

I think that says enough about your mental capacity right there. And I'm sick to death of your "Zionist Jew" bullshit, as it does not belong here. You DO realize that you're talking about a console made by a company owned by Jews who were what you would probably consider "Zionists", right?? Please, go somewhere else to spout your trollish nonsense. In the meantime, your crap doesn't need any more of an audience.

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