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[Draikar]

I did not see any post of the new EURO PSP-1000 for $99 US dollars, anyone know if it will hit North America or Japan ? Some say it will not.

[disjaukifa]

Everything I've read says its PAL only . . . sometimes I just don't understand Sony, they had themselves a real winner with E1000 but somes very bad decisions is going to make it a massive flop . . . no stereo sound and no wireless . . . I want to know what Sony was thinking with that one . . .

[Reaperman]

Draikar, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:44 AM, said:

I did not see any post of the new EURO PSP-1000 for $99 US dollars, anyone know if it will hit North America or Japan ? Some say it will not.

This is actually the first I've heard of that system, but it seems like many sources say it's not coming to the US, and it probably would not do well with its lack of wifi. I really don't know what they're shooting for with it. The psp-3000 is only $130, so they'd have to drop the price pretty low.

I've been on kind of a psp kick lately though. I'm loving the bargain priced games (both new and used), and am considering a second (legitimate) unit for myself. I'd sure want the full-fat experience though. Part of wanting a second unit would be for local multiplayer with my other one. Not to mention psn access (the entire point of a 100% legit one)

Edited by Reaperman, Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:01 AM.

[disjaukifa]

Reaperman, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:57 AM, said:

Draikar, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:44 AM, said:

I did not see any post of the new EURO PSP-1000 for $99 US dollars, anyone know if it will hit North America or Japan ? Some say it will not.

This is actually the first I've heard of that system, but it seems like many sources say it's not coming to the US, and it probably would not do well with its lack of wifi. I really don't know what they're shooting for with it. The psp-3000 is only $130, so they'd have to drop the price pretty low.

I think Sony was banking on the bad economy thinking people are trying to save all the money they can, and they would go hmmm . . . do I really need wifi and stereo sound for 30 bucks? Also for parents looking to get their kids a PSP, they would probably be more inclined to get them the E1000 . . . especially if they had multiple children. Just a thought!

[Reaperman]

disjaukifa, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:00 AM, said:

I think Sony was banking on the bad economy thinking people are trying to save all the money they can, and they would go hmmm . . . do I really need wifi and stereo sound for 30 bucks? Also for parents looking to get their kids a PSP, they would probably be more inclined to get them the E1000 . . . especially if they had multiple children. Just a thought!

Seems like it would be a no-brainer for a retail outlet to 'upsell' customers to a cheaper used/reconditioned unit.

Heck, Google turned up one location that seems to be selling new 3000's for $95 shipped (though I can't check their site out from where I'm at)

Edited by Reaperman, Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:06 AM.

[MagitekAngel]

The E-1000 has no appeal to me at all - it's stripped down, ugly, and too expensive for what you're getting. At that price point, Sony would have been better off to just drop the price of the 3000. Still, I'd get an E-1000 before a Go.

[Rex Dart]

Huh, doesn't look so horrible to me. I've got the old PSP-1000 with the worthless D-pad and this looks like a decent upgrade. I don't need wifi; the thing's web browser sucks. So long as it can still do TV-out, I'm interested.

[MagitekAngel]

I can't speak for the 1000 because I'm a newcomer to the PSP and the only one I've ever owned is the 3000. The E-1000 sort of just looks like a child's toy to me with that matte finish. I suppose I'd be interested to know what kind of screen it has - ie, whether it still does the scanline thing that everyone complains about from the 3000 (doesn't bother me), and perhaps more importantly, how scratch resistant the plastic is.

[Cybergoth]

Rex Dart, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM, said:

Huh, doesn't look so horrible to me. I've got the old PSP-1000 with the worthless D-pad and this looks like a decent upgrade. I don't need wifi; the thing's web browser sucks. So long as it can still do TV-out, I'm interested.

Well you would need the WiFi for stuff like e.g. playing Monster Hunter with other people. And the 99€ PSPs audio is only Mono. So I went with a NIB 3004 from Amazon instead, packed with two essentials (out of a selection of 12) for 129€...

Reaperman, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:57 AM, said:

Not to mention psn access (the entire point of a 100% legit one)

I think you still can do that without wifi via USB, going either through the PS3 or a PC with a tool called "Media Go".

[Rex Dart]

Cybergoth, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:01 AM, said:

Rex Dart, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM, said:

Huh, doesn't look so horrible to me. I've got the old PSP-1000 with the worthless D-pad and this looks like a decent upgrade. I don't need wifi; the thing's web browser sucks. So long as it can still do TV-out, I'm interested.

Well you would need the WiFi for stuff like e.g. playing Monster Hunter with other people. And the 99€ PSPs audio is only Mono. So I went with a NIB 3004 from Amazon instead, packed with two essentials (out of a selection of 12) for 129€...

Don't think I do, actually. And I've got headphones for if I reaaaaally needed stereo sound from a handheld.

[Reaperman]

Downloadable games for PSP must be *really* unpopular then.

It's the only reason I can think of why they didn't dump the UMD drive and use multiple memory slots in its place. (either two extra duo slots, or a whole bunch of slots for that new micro sony memory) Many of psp's games feature some kind of multiplayer, and it's a shame to miss out on that and some of the neat ps3 wireless connectivity features by dumping the wifi. What does a wifi module even cost these days? they can't be that expensive. Now a UMD drive seems more expensive.

Cybergoth, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:01 AM, said:

I think you still can do that without wifi via USB, going either through the PS3 or a PC with a tool called "Media Go".

That's true, but not really for me.

Edited by Reaperman, Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM.

[Rex Dart]

Reaperman, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM, said:

What does a wifi module even cost these days? they can't be that expensive. Now a UMD drive seems more expensive.

Good points. But then, they are Sony, maker of retardo decisions since whenever the hell the PSP first launched.

[Seob]

I bought a new psp-3000 two weeks ago for 119 euro, so the price difference is only 20 euro. That price difference is to little to buy a e-1000 over a 3000. Or maybe they stop producing the 3000, so you won't have a option.
The e-1000 is slightly heavier then the 3000, so maybe they installed a large battery pack?
Things for the psp are bad anyway in the Netherlands. A few big toy company's and record company's have already dropped the psp, they have no, or only a very little shelf space for the psp.

[Atariboy]

disjaukifa, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:50 AM, said:

Everything I've read says its PAL only . . . sometimes I just don't understand Sony, they had themselves a real winner with E1000 but somes very bad decisions is going to make it a massive flop . . . no stereo sound and no wireless . . . I want to know what Sony was thinking with that one . . .

The whole point of the thing was to drive down production cost as far as possible so they could lower the MSRP to capture the last few remaining sales they haven't attracted so far. Trimming cost as far as possible is why this existed. It wasn't intended to be superior to the 3000, it was intended as a budget version of the PSP that was as stripped down as possible while still having the functionality the average new buyer in late 2011 would care about. I'm not sure why you think they had a real winner on their hands and then criticize the entire point behind this revision.

Stripping WiFi makes sense. Was always pretty underused on the system by consumers and many of the features, like the internet browser and remote play, were pretty lackluster or underutilized. And many servers for PSP games have long been shut down or are ghost towns these days. Not to mention that the person really interested in its online capabilities is likely already going to already own a PSP. The person getting in on its twilight isn't likely the type that cares too much about something like Remote Play, playing via wireless with another PSP owner, etc. They're the type that always had a few games catch their eyes that will finally take the plunge when the price gets down enough, a gift for a young kid, etc. It wasn't intended as an upgraded successor of the 3000 for existing owners

The most important element of its internet capabilities, accessing PSN to purchase content, is still there via the old USB method to a PC or PS3 that every PSP owner used to have to go through to get content before direct store access was implimented on the platform.

Reaperman, on Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM, said:

Downloadable games for PSP must be *really* unpopular then.

It's the only reason I can think of why they didn't dump the UMD drive and use multiple memory slots in its place. (either two extra duo slots, or a whole bunch of slots for that new micro sony memory) Many of psp's games feature some kind of multiplayer, and it's a shame to miss out on that and some of the neat ps3 wireless connectivity features by dumping the wifi. What does a wifi module even cost these days? they can't be that expensive. Now a UMD drive seems more expensive.

It isn't 5 years ago now. They're after budget conscious gamers now that might not even have a home WiFi network and will be buying most of their games used. And there are few PSP games with active multiplayer communities at this late date, so they're not missing out on much with that aspect.

And somehow I imagine the type of individual that was excited at the thought of being able to control their PS3 wirelessly via their PSP was the type that already bought both of these devices years ago. And it's not like they ever did a heck of a lot with Remote Play. How many of us fool around with that more than just occasionally? Perhaps just once to see what it was like?

I know I just did half a dozen times or so to watch stuff from Hulu via the PS3's browser being streamed to the PSP. And once Hulu cut off PS3 owners, I haven't touched it since.

Edited by Atariboy, Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:04 PM.

[Video]

If it is basically a 1k without wifi, then I'd be here. I never have seen that even work, the few times I've tried (must be some hella requirements to get it to talk to a wireless network or something, that's beyond me though) I know it'll have the crappy "new" screens, because that's all they make now, but other than that, the 1k was a damn tank. I don't take my 3k anywhere because I don't feel it adequately protects my games (no door latch?) and it just feels fragile over all. And it would be nice to get some 1800 batteries again too.

[Atariboy]

It's a cheap budget system, so it's not going to be a 1000 without WiFi. The 1000 was far more expensive to produce than the 3000, which is why it feels so much more durable to you.

This is essentially a even cheaper version of the 3000.