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[thegamezmaster]

Has anyone ever used the Sega Genesis 6 button wireless controllers on a Atari 7800? Do they work? I know I'll need to hook up ext. cables for the receiver. Just curious, is it one or do two buttons work or anyway to make them work? Thanks.

[the.golden.ax]

They would need modification for two button play. Single button and 2600 titles would work fine.

AX

[thegamezmaster]

Thanks for the info.

[SRGilbert]

The question I'm curious about is, if you were to mod them, would it be the controller or the IR reciever that would get modded?

BTW, I love those Sega brand wireless controllers, they really are top notch.

[gorfcadet]

You could mod either for the same result. As long as the signal ends up in the right place by the time it hits the system.

[thegamezmaster]

Anywhere to find how this is done?

[DarthCloud]

thegamezmaster, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:21 AM, said:

Anywhere to find how this is done?

I've done that for my wired controller and it's working fine for both 2600 and 7800 mode.
This is an adapter so you don't need to mod the controller.




It should work too for the wireless controller.

Edited by DarthCloud, Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:35 AM.

[thegamezmaster]

DarthCloud, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:25 AM, said:

thegamezmaster, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:21 AM, said:

Anywhere to find how this is done?

I've done that for my wired controller and it's working fine for both 2600 and 7800 mode.
This is an adapter so you don't need to mod the controller.



It should work too for the wireless controller.

Thanks. Any way to explain to someone not this technically advanced?

[DarthCloud]

thegamezmaster, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:35 AM, said:

DarthCloud, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:25 AM, said:

thegamezmaster, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:21 AM, said:

Anywhere to find how this is done?

I've done that for my wired controller and it's working fine for both 2600 and 7800 mode.
This is an adapter so you don't need to mod the controller.



It should work too for the wireless controller.

Thanks. Any way to explain to someone not this technically advanced?

You first need to get the 5 component needed:

One 74HC4053: http://www.mouser.co...CJ5LyLgEXY2s%3d
Two 620 Ohm resistor: http://www.mouser.co...oCyWGhoufZ34%3d
One DB9 Male: http://www.mouser.co...%252bevKylkc%3d
One DB9 Female: http://www.mouser.co...z6SpRk1wMCuk%3d

On the schematic each line is a wire and they interconnect at connector or chip pin. Where they cross their is not connection excepted when you see a round black dot.

R1 and R2 are the resistor.

Vcc and GND are the power suply, so you need to connect each Vcc together. And connect all GND together.

If you never done this before I recommend using a small breadboard like this since it require no soldering:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/7916

You would only need in that case to solder a wire to each pin of each DB9 connector.

I recommend using 22 AWG cable with only one conductor:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8022

Edited by DarthCloud, Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:25 AM.

[SRGilbert]

Someone needs to start selling those!

[the.golden.ax]

SRGilbert, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:02 PM, said:

Someone needs to start selling those!

Already on it with DarthCloud's blessing.

I figure I can do the work and it should cost about the same as buy all the parts for a one off since I'll get everything in bulk.

AX

[gorfcadet]

Put me down for one!

[the.golden.ax]

I'll post here and in marketplace when I have a few ready to go. I order from mouser all the time so it can piggy back with other stuff. Great little device.

AX

[DarthCloud]

I'm happy that someone is willing to build the adapter for the community!

Cause I'm too busy with university and work to find time to build and sell the stuff I design myself.

Personaly, I prefer to see all the component so I don't put any hood but I guess you could order those hood to give the adapter a more professional look:
http://www.mouser.co...cmvDLiEySCUc%3d

Edited by DarthCloud, Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:44 PM.

[Prodos8]

I've built the adapter from the faq (sega pad adapter) here on this site and found it doesn't work with 6-button controllers, but works fine with 3-button controllers. I don't know about the one referenced in the above posts and 6-button pads.

Also, I don't think the sega wireless receiver will work at all without an adapter on the 7800, even as a single button controller, because it will need +5vdc on pin 5 and the atari supplies it on pin 7.

[SRGilbert]

Hmmm...I wonder if there would be an issue with my Battlestation II controller since it works as a 6 button controller on the Genesis?

Edited by SRGilbert, Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:19 PM.

[DarthCloud]

The wireless controller for sure work the same as the wired 6 button controller. With the exception that their is no "mode" button.

The problem might be that the select line (pin 7) is never pulled low as normal genesis game would do. So if the 6 button controller use that as some kind of clock to update it's output that could cause a problem. I know that the select pulse is use by compatible game to get the 3 additional button status.

If that the case those controller would be incompatible with the Master System, Power Base Converter and Atari.

The mode button on the wired 6 button controller is said to be use to put the controller in 3 button mode. So if you hold that button while powering the system the controller should work as a normal genesis pad and should work with SMS and Atari system.

Unfortunately the wireless version and some newer wired one don't have that button, so it's probably can't be put in compatibility mode.

Anyway I just buy an official SEGA 6 button controller with mode button on ebay. So in a week or so I update about it. If it doesn't work I will try to find what I can do about it.

Edited by DarthCloud, Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:46 PM.

[the.golden.ax]

DarthCloud, on Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:43 PM, said:

The wireless controller for sure work the same as the wired 6 button controller. With the exception that their is no "mode" button.

The problem might be that the select line (pin 7) is never pulled low as normal genesis game would do. So if the 6 button controller use that as some kind of clock to update it's output that could cause a problem. I know that the select pulse is use by compatible game to get the 3 additional button status.

If that the case those controller would be incompatible with the Master System, Power Base Converter and Atari.

The mode button on the wired 6 button controller is said to be use to put the controller in 3 button mode. So if you hold that button while powering the system the controller should work as a normal genesis pad and should work with SMS and Atari system.

Unfortunately the wireless version and some newer wired one don't have that button, so it's probably can't be put in compatibility mode.

Anyway I just buy an official SEGA 6 button controller with mode button on ebay. So in a week or so I update about it. If it doesn't work I will try to find what I can do about it.

I'd have given you one to further the research. I've got plenty of this stuff, just let me know.

AX

[venom4728a]

I would like a couple of these also.

[DarthCloud]

Received my 6 button controller today (Model MK-1470 with mode button) and it's working fine. Don't even need to use the mode button at all.

Tried in 2600 mode and with a 7800 two button game. No issue at all.

One will have to check the model without mode button and the wireless one, but I'm pretty sure they are going to work too. Unless SEGA screwed something with those

[the.golden.ax]

I've got the wireless Sega and Dual Turbos. Once I build one of these I'll let yall know. I'm also looking at getting an IR booster and seeing how that works with (helps) range/angle.

AX