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[Chris Leach]

As a huge fan of Sony....I have been hoarding some ps2 games for quite sometime. I realize I paid retail prices for some of my personal collection being games that I really wanted and others I would wait to find them used or pick them up in a nice trade. With the prices for a good title on the ps2 being so low currently, some games $2 - $3.....do you think titles like Xenosage II and III will gain value as time goes on.
Comparing Ps2 pricing to the Ps1 rpg's, most ps1 rpg's were great games and you can still see their prices at $10-$20-$30 + for some titles.
When will ps2 go back up as a collectible? Does factory sealed really matter as there is some guy out there that says he has every title factory sealed and shows them online?

Congrats to that dude, but I really would like to challenge his "He has every title"....each game came with their own SLUS or SCUS # on the spine, some titles even had the same, although they were all supposed to be individual #'s. Maybe he has every title factory sealed, but when the bully came out did he buy the reg edition or did he pick up the Locker edition...Or Tony Hawk's skate boarding game..did he get all of them just reg edition or did he pick up the one title that came with a skateboard?

There were so many good games on the Ps2 I believe it would be a great collection to own, but there are just so many titles out there to own every one!

Anyone here have them all?.

Then would you say you have them all...just games....games and demos?...just demos....betas...promo copies? and so on? we are talking 1000's here!

[bojay1997]

Not sure why this is in the marketplace area. The collector in question has been clear that he doesn't collect variants unless the variant release has unique content on the disc. Sony generally did not assign unique numbers to games that simply came bundled with a promo item like the skateboard for Target on Tony Hawk, etc... He does, however, collect collector's editions as those were generally the original release of the game. It cost him tens of thousands of dollars and he has thousands of games. So, yes, he has at least one copy of every game ever released in the US for the PS2 sealed.

[Chris Leach]

bojay1997, on Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:03 AM, said:

Not sure why this is in the marketplace area. The collector in question has been clear that he doesn't collect variants unless the variant release has unique content on the disc. Sony generally did not assign unique numbers to games that simply came bundled with a promo item like the skateboard for Target on Tony Hawk, etc... He does, however, collect collector's editions as those were generally the original release of the game. It cost him tens of thousands of dollars and he has thousands of games. So, yes, he has at least one copy of every game ever released in the US for the PS2 sealed.

Well...this was put in the marketplace because the Main Point to the Original point of this thread is asking about Ps2 pricing....
Now with that being said....and you put two and two together you get a post in the marketplace regarding Ps2 prices and then the topic of...

"This guy has 1 of every copy sealed?" Man does he gotta feel pretty lame if the Ps2 pricing stays so low and never rebounds...having bought most titles for $50 each and now seeing them go sealed for $10 or less?

So as this is not to rip on that guy..I was just using his posts online as an example.....Congrats to the guy with one of everything thats an amazing feat as I am a HUGE Sony fanboy, I am for one Jealous!

Do you have the link to this guys posts? Maybe a list or pics of what he has....does He Have Frogger with the kids controller for PS2? Does he have a list of every title?
I for years have kept a book in sync with every number recorded from the spines and find it so impossible to guage my list against anything on line.....betas, demos, sony releases, non sony releases, GH titles, and so on!

Now back to your limited edition with special pack in items didnt come with a special item #...I beg to differ and can prove as I have this Tony hawk Skate board edition and many other limited edition with key items included...>!

So, back to the topic..when do you think we can see the ps2 pricing go back up? Or will it not.....?

Edited by Chris Leach, Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:17 AM.

[Itchy Koala]

Chris Leach, on Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:12 AM, said:

bojay1997, on Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:03 AM, said:

Not sure why this is in the marketplace area. The collector in question has been clear that he doesn't collect variants unless the variant release has unique content on the disc. Sony generally did not assign unique numbers to games that simply came bundled with a promo item like the skateboard for Target on Tony Hawk, etc... He does, however, collect collector's editions as those were generally the original release of the game. It cost him tens of thousands of dollars and he has thousands of games. So, yes, he has at least one copy of every game ever released in the US for the PS2 sealed.

Well...this was put in the marketplace because the Main Point to the Original point of this thread is asking about Ps2 pricing....
Now with that being said....and you put two and two together you get a post in the marketplace regarding Ps2 prices and then the topic of...

"This guy has 1 of every copy sealed?" Man does he gotta feel pretty lame if the Ps2 pricing stays so low and never rebounds...having bought most titles for $50 each and now seeing them go sealed for $10 or less?

So as this is not to rip on that guy..I was just using his posts online as an example.....Congrats to the guy with one of everything thats an amazing feat as I am a HUGE Sony fanboy, I am for one Jealous!

Do you have the link to this guys posts? Maybe a list or pics of what he has....does He Have Frogger with the kids controller for PS2? Does he have a list of every title?
I for years have kept a book in sync with every number recorded from the spines and find it so impossible to guage my list against anything on line.....betas, demos, sony releases, non sony releases, GH titles, and so on!

Now back to your limited edition with special pack in items didnt come with a special item #...I beg to differ and can prove as I have this Tony hawk Skate board edition and many other limited edition with key items included...>!

So, back to the topic..when do you think we can see the ps2 pricing go back up? Or will it not.....?

I'm sure they will go back up in price. It's just at the sad point in a video game's life where it's outdated but not yet nostalgic. Every era has it's time in the discount bin when the newer and better comes out.

The only thing it has working against it right now is supply. Everyone and their monkey had a ps2 and a handful of games, and working at a game store I can definitely confirm that we aren't going to be in shortage any time soon. And since the demand has been decreasing ever since PS3's introduction, a price drop is a must.

Edited by Itchy Koala, Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:37 AM.

[bojay1997]

Chris Leach, on Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:12 AM, said:

bojay1997, on Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:03 AM, said:

Not sure why this is in the marketplace area. The collector in question has been clear that he doesn't collect variants unless the variant release has unique content on the disc. Sony generally did not assign unique numbers to games that simply came bundled with a promo item like the skateboard for Target on Tony Hawk, etc... He does, however, collect collector's editions as those were generally the original release of the game. It cost him tens of thousands of dollars and he has thousands of games. So, yes, he has at least one copy of every game ever released in the US for the PS2 sealed.

Well...this was put in the marketplace because the Main Point to the Original point of this thread is asking about Ps2 pricing....
Now with that being said....and you put two and two together you get a post in the marketplace regarding Ps2 prices and then the topic of...

"This guy has 1 of every copy sealed?" Man does he gotta feel pretty lame if the Ps2 pricing stays so low and never rebounds...having bought most titles for $50 each and now seeing them go sealed for $10 or less?

So as this is not to rip on that guy..I was just using his posts online as an example.....Congrats to the guy with one of everything thats an amazing feat as I am a HUGE Sony fanboy, I am for one Jealous!

Do you have the link to this guys posts? Maybe a list or pics of what he has....does He Have Frogger with the kids controller for PS2? Does he have a list of every title?
I for years have kept a book in sync with every number recorded from the spines and find it so impossible to guage my list against anything on line.....betas, demos, sony releases, non sony releases, GH titles, and so on!

Now back to your limited edition with special pack in items didnt come with a special item #...I beg to differ and can prove as I have this Tony hawk Skate board edition and many other limited edition with key items included...>!

So, back to the topic..when do you think we can see the ps2 pricing go back up? Or will it not.....?

This is the "marketplace" subforum. It's for buying, selling or trading as well as advertising Ebay items. Which of these does your post seek to do? There are other forums for discussing modern gaming and pricing trends.

To hopefully put an end to this discussion, the guy has one of every single PS2 US released game. So, yes, he has Frogger with the pad which is dirt common. He doesn't collect demos, variants, promos, prototypes, etc...I get that you're jealous, but you need to get over it. He has one of every single PS2 game released in the US. So, that includes every game by its very definition. According to his posts on other sites, he paid full MSRP for some games and a lot less than that for others. Since he didn't start collecting PS2 until a few years ago, I'm sure many games were purchased at bargain prices. Why does it matter if his games are worth less today than what he paid for them? He's not looking to sell, so it's a moot point.

As for Tony Hawk Project 8, are you saying the disc or game case itself has a unique number or the outer box? If it's just the cardboard box, who cares? Frankly, who cares either way? He has all the Tony Hawk games and none of them are rare, including Project 8 with the skateboard included. There is one on Ebay right now NIB mint for $100. Wasn't the original release price something close to that anyway?

[Tempest]

Moving to Modern Gaming forum (they're still making PS2 games, so that counts as modern in my book).

[Chris Leach]

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Edited by Chris Leach, Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM.

[TwinChargers]

Tempest, on Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM, said:

Moving to Modern Gaming forum (they're still making PS2 games, so that counts as modern in my book).

Just one left on the horizon, a soccer title due out November 8th, and that might be it. Goodbye PS2, it was a good run.

[ianoid]

Agreed, this belongs in modern.

And it is interesting to keep current on a current system, but it's not the cheapest way to go. Even if you buy the rares and future super expensive games sealed at reasonable prices (even marked down prices) now, it's still WAY more than waiting and buying stuff dirt cheap when it's 1 or 2 generations removed. Trying to second guess future rarity and value is nearly impossible on regular releases. I really have little admiration for guys who do comprehensively collect current, aside from Santulli picking up every TG16 release as it came out or something like that. It just seems like a boatload of cash and more than an ounce of compulsion. Neat, but too expensive.

Collecting is funny, for some reason I don't have much admiration for game collectors who just spend their way into a collection. I respect bargain hunters more. Of course on the high end you have to spend, but just to buy a collection because you have $1000 free every month seems like money you'll never recoup.

Edited by ianoid, Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:30 PM.

[the.golden.ax]

Tempest, in 2020 you should move it to classic gaming, just because it would be funny.

As with anything of this nature, time will tell, but all signs point to a resounding YES!

Patience grasshopper. You need patience for this any many things. When your kid is 10 you are going to ask where the years went. Same thing with your PS2 collection. They are moving away from physical media. Really, anything physical is going to become very collectible in the decades to come. Give it some time, people have to kill a good number of these first then realize how much they missed the good ole days.

AX

[GonzoGamer]

seems like unless a game has Mario, Zelda, Kong, or Fantasy in the title they will not go up in price over time, sealed or not, most games drop in price as newer systems arrive. and thank goodness for all of us who prefer past systems to the current ones.

[Austin]

Like any past generation, some games will rise, some games will not. Snag as many RPGs as you can now, as they are the most-likely to increase.

[xg4bx]

to me, having a shelf full of unopened, unplayed and unloved games is like collecting rare first edition books but being a total illiterate.

yea thats awesome that you have them but are there any you received as a present from a loved one? any that you have fond memories of playing with friends? any cool aquisition stories?

if i had the bucks i could sit on amazon and ebay all day too but it would be meaningless.

whether its books or games i only collect insofar as holding onto what i buy.

[mb7241]

Well...how I see it is similar to Austin's perspective. Some games will rise (in fact, some already have...throw a sealed copy of Wizardry on eBay if you want to see an example of this), some games will remain flat or fall. Two thousand-plus different sealed PS2 games, though, is nothing at which to scoff, at any rate. True, he may have overpaid on, say, 60-80% of the library. On the other 20%, he probably either bought cheap, or gambled on a new release and won (again, referencing Wizardry here, which is probably a prime example of the latter). I myself have already begun collecting PS2 games, with a catch: they have to be RPGs, or some other fun game (Rez, Katamari Damacy, etc.). Also, how I structure my collection is a bit different...my aim is to get one factory-sealed copy and one opened, 100% complete copy of each of the titles I want, because I do, someday, intend on actually playing these games. In fact, this structure and definition continues for each system for which I collect (excepting pre-NES, as while it'd be nice to have a factory-sealed Frogger II for the 2600, I don't really see a need in having one).

[the.golden.ax]

As far as my PS2 collection goes (around 60 games) they have to be stuff I want to play and CIB. I've got the McBoot thing (haven't used it yet) I'd kinda like some easier way to play them (not emulation) without skipping CGI (USB loader was horrid). I've got nothing again sealed copies in my collection as long as I can play them in some way. I really don't like to scratch of finger print up my games, that... and my kids like PS2 allot.

AX

[Video]

95+% of the PS2 library will "NEVER" go back up. 95+% of any gaming consoles library only ever sees diminishing prices, and the reason is pretty simple. Once it's gone, it's gone, and all the people uninterested in continuing to collect will dump their collections, even the sealed stuff for super cheap. People who are interested in collecting, can get most of said stuff for super cheap, even if they didn't buy NIB originally.

Thing that gets you though is, that sub 5% area. The games that were rare, or better yet, good, and you had troubles getting them new, to heck with new condition used copies. Those are the ones to show interest in. Of course, they don't have to necessarily even be really rare games. Take games with accessories, many of those will be fairly valuable, in complete condition, due to the acessories usually being separated from the game at some point, or broken. Mogul Maniac for the 2600 as an example. game is dirt cheap, but when you talk about the board, you start getting into money. I have zero idea what a sealed complete version of that would cost, cause I've never seen one.

Anyhow, as for the collector who got one of everything, will he get his money back? No. He will never see a return in that investment. Even with those tiny hand fulls of games that will command extreme prices some day, he'll never offset the tens of thousands that he originally spent. Would he feel like an idiot? I doubt it, unless he really did buy it intending it to be an investment.

Here's a simple rule, collect what you love, then if it's never worth anything, it doesn't matter.