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Why no composite out?


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#1 T2KFREEKER OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:08 PM

I'm not talking the RCA Yellow, White and Red cables here. I am talking the Red, Green and Blue with Red and White for audio. I understand it wouldn't really upconvert the picture to HD, but it would clean it up quite a bit and make the color separations amazing on an HD set. There is a company out there that is making these for the Neo Geo system now and my buddy got one. We weren't really expecting a huge improvement, but we were wrong. The co0lor just looks amazing and it lost that almost fuzzy look that you still even get in S-Video. I just don't understand why nobody has made one of these for the Jaguar as I am sure that there are people out there that would want to buy one.

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Posted Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:19 PM

1) It's called component, not composite. Composite is the red/white/yellow you described at the start.
2) The jag doesn't output component natively, so there's no cable. It does do RGB, though, and you can convert that to component with a converter box.

So I guess what you want is an RGB to Component convertor.

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Posted Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:19 PM

I think you mean component (the yellow one is composite). It is possible I would have thought as SCART is RGB, perhaps if there are no official Atari ones made or home made ones you could get a SCART lead and then a scart to RGB adaptor, which would give you exactly RGB and audio on seperate RCA connections?

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Posted Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:21 PM

There is already a component (not to be confused with composite) cable for the Jaguar :
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Yes, RGB is component too. Get a RGB-to-YPbPr converter and you'll get a very crisp picture.

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Posted Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:34 PM

View PostZerosquare, on Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:21 PM, said:

Yes, RGB is component too. Get a RGB-to-YPbPr converter and you'll get a very crisp picture.

Yes you certainly will, I've got a number of classic consoles hooked up SCART RGB > component and the quality is outstanding! :)

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Posted Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:06 PM

rgb > hdmi scaler is the way forward

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Posted Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:19 PM

I run a 9 output system selector through a scaler/deinterlacer, all consoles using s-video lol. Probably not the best solution, but as you said, you don't really notice the difference unless you see it for yourself. Plus, Zero 5 looks really weird on my TV without a deinterlacer... really intense scanlines whenever something explodes. I thought that S-video was a nice step up from composite tho, and the scaler eliminated the fuzziness for me.

Edited by Willard, Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:21 PM.


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Posted Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:43 PM

RGB is not component. If it was, you wouldn't need a converter. Don't confuse the color of the connectors with the signals that they carry.

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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:05 AM

View PostJibbajaba, on Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:43 PM, said:

RGB is not component. If it was, you wouldn't need a converter. Don't confuse the color of the connectors with the signals that they carry.

RGB IS component, just a different kind of component :) which is why you need a converter if you want to use the alternate form of component.

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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:52 PM

Yup, LinkoVitch is right.

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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:47 PM

Learn something new every day!

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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:12 PM

Yeaaaah, YPbPr-style component needs a new name if S-Video is also component.

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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:26 PM

View PostRex Dart, on Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:12 PM, said:

Yeaaaah, YPbPr-style component needs a new name if S-Video is also component.

Exactly. The point of my post was that YCbCr is not the same as analog RGB. I often find that people think that it is due to the color of the connectors on a component cable.

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Posted Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:32 AM

I don't know who chose the colors on YPbPr cables, but using red-green-blue was indeed a bad idea.

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Posted Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:36 AM

View PostZerosquare, on Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:32 AM, said:

I don't know who chose the colors on YPbPr cables, but using red-green-blue was indeed a bad idea.

A guy who had a lot of spare ones? :)




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