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[ComputerSpaceFan]

And ironically Modojo has a good article on this exact subject.

Nintendo: Five Steps to Weather PlayStation Vita's Storm

What does everyone think? Will this fix the situation?

And in case anyone thinks I'm a 3DS hater, I'm not. I plan to get one in January and I will gladly pay $30-40 to see Chun-li in 3D .... errr ... I mean, to get Street Fighter But I was very frustrated as a Wii owner and it saddens me that Nintendo don't seem to be moving forward with the handheld business model these days. They are being stubborn and, in my opinion, shooting themselves in the foot.

[Video]

Truthfully, Nintenod should have their own Estore. No, I don't mean what they have, they can keep that, but basically a more open store to let average people make their own games on it. Ifthey did that, and let people sell games for $1 through it, I bet you'd see Nintendos sales go back up and Iphone drop....I bet you'd also see a variant of the Iphone that finally had a Dpad and buttons too

Realistically, Nintendo's got it, if they want it. But the last few generations of hardware, both console and handheld, have shown that Nintendo really doesn't want it. Only thing I've even been remotely interested in in recent years is the 3DS (for one feature that most will call a gimmick) but the two games down the road I'm interested in aren't really enough, and honestly, it looks to me like Nintendo is just trying to kill the thing off, like they did with the Virtual Boy.

Anyhow, I games blow. And they can blow me, I don't like them, no not even Angry birds, Played it once and it was Okish...but never again, not even the slightest bit of interest in trying again, despite it being on my friends phone where I could play it any time if I wanted too. No thanks, give me a real controller and an actual quality game any day, even for more money, over that Icrap. Funny thing, didn't Angry birds win "game of the year" a while back? Thing is, it's just a midway game somewhere between Artillery dual (atari 2600) and Worms (SNES to modern) how many people that thought that game was good that would rag on the ones I just mentioned? So anyways, Istuff has it's place, mostly for dyslexic ADHD impaired people that are becoming the "standard" of living now days, sadly, but that's not to say EVERYBODY wants it.

Oh yeah, seems to me I can watch Netflix on my 3DS, so if Nintendo wanted it (or maybe if "facebook" wanted it) they could get facebook up and running on there, if someone thinks that's really a reason it's not doing well.

[Animan]

Video, on Tue Nov 1, 2011 2:01 PM, said:

Truthfully, Nintenod should have their own Estore. No, I don't mean what they have, they can keep that, but basically a more open store to let average people make their own games on it.

This is the one thing that truly pisses me off about Nintendo. They're so closed off when it comes to what game developers they let in. It'll be years before by little 2-bit game company can even get access to Nintendo's dev kits. I'm convinced they haven't gotten over the Video Game Crash of 1983.

But, on the other hand, at least I don't have to dig through billions of crappy, poorly coded, poorly designed, terribly executed, lacking in spirit, unexcusably god awful games to find something that I can actually remotely enjoy (*cough* App Store *cough*).

Edited by Animan, Tue Nov 1, 2011 4:42 PM.

[eggomania]

I'm planning on getting a 3DS by Christmas time. I'm looking forward to the new Super Mario Land and Mario Kart 7. Hopefully Paper Mario will come out next year. I do like Nintendo, so I try to support this company by buying their products. I was mostly happy with all of their systems that I have.

I do think that apps will be the future of gaming, although I hope that I am wrong. There are some good games in the Apple apps store. I recommend the games made by Llamasoft such as Goatup, Minotron (a game similar to Robotron 2084) and Minotaur Rescue (sort of like the 2600 version of Asteriods but more fun). But I do find many apps to be only OK. I enjoy owning my own games and holding them in my hand - something you cannot do with an app.

[bomberpunk]

Nintendo really needs top drop the prices of their games significantly.

on my iPhone, i bought a fantastic Double Dragon remake for under two bucks. there are also ports of Flashback, Prince of Persia, Ghouls & Ghosts, three genny Sonic games, Another World (Out of this World), NBA Jam, Double Dribble, Frogger, etc.
the highest price i saw was $4.99 and there are TONS more ports and throwback games out there. just like any other platform, you have to sift through the shovelware to find the good shit.

retail retro game packs recycle the same crap over and over and they still want to charge $20+

if there was an iPhone attachment that added REAL BUTTONS to the device, i'd be in heaven. touching/covering the screen is stupid. and for this reason alone, i am still wanting a 3DS (or DSi XL when the price goes to $99)

[Austin]

bomberpunk, on Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:09 PM, said:

if there was an iPhone attachment that added REAL BUTTONS to the device, i'd be in heaven. touching/covering the screen is stupid. and for this reason alone, i am still wanting a 3DS (or DSi XL when the price goes to $99)

Exactly. All Apple needs to do is produce an official D-Pad/Button peripheral much like the iControl Pad. People will eat it up. I know I would.

[Austin]

I picked up a 3DS yesterday! Here are my thoughts:

The good:

• Beautiful looking system (I got the Aqua Blue model). I really like the shine to it.
  
• Comfortable analog nub, much nicer than the one on the PSP.
  
• I adjusted to the 3D effect faster than I thought I would--almost immediately. The effect is nice and I now no longer want to play handheld games in 2D.
  
• Original DS games look and play great on it!

The bad:

• D-pad is rigid, and the system itself isn't all that comfortable to hold for long periods of time
  
• It's easy to lose focus of the screen by tilting it or shaking it. Games like Star Fox should include perma-auto-fire features, as having to mash the button is guaranteed to make you lose track of the screen at the hectic points in the game.
  
• Battery life is low. Less than my PSP 3000, easy. With the 3D mode on and the sound and brightness all the way up, it lasted between three or four hours. Not that I mind too much, as I will only be playing the thing at home.
  
• The 3DS shop is lackluster at best. It's difficult to simply search through categories and browse the games available. Just to find the complete list of DSi downloads available, I had to literally do a custom search for "DSi". This should be corrected and everything should be grouped into proper categories in the store.

Overall, I feel satisfied with my purchase. I ran through Star Fox 64 nearly three times and enjoyed it the whole time. Dream Trigger was interesting as well and shows off the 3D effect well at points. My hands easily cramp with this thing just like on the DSi systems, but I will just have to deal with it (and I will). All in all though, it's a nice piece of kit. Now, if only I had snagged those $5 games at Best Buy during the holiday season..

[Lord Helmet]

Austin, on Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:47 PM, said:

bomberpunk, on Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:09 PM, said:

if there was an iPhone attachment that added REAL BUTTONS to the device, i'd be in heaven. touching/covering the screen is stupid. and for this reason alone, i am still wanting a 3DS (or DSi XL when the price goes to $99)

Exactly. All Apple needs to do is produce an official D-Pad/Button peripheral much like the iControl Pad. People will eat it up. I know I would.

No freaking kidding. It's a great platform but the lack of controls kills it for more than just a casual game or two for me.

[Tr3vor]

I got a 3ds a day after christmas and I say that I freaking love it.

The 3d is awesome. all those who say that the 3ds would be better without 3d, you know you can turn it off, and if it didn't have 3d, It wouldn't be a 3ds anymore, would it?

I love the gyroscope stuff, its really really accurate, I think its better than the wii. and it don't have waggle crap either.

the Backwards compatability (which is important, because I likes me pokemanz) is really good IMO, and all those complaining about how the 3ds has to make the image bigger than a 1:1 ratio are dumb. you can just hack yourself an old ass DS screen into your 3ds then. don't complain about having the higher resolution screen. geez. just that doesn't ruin backwards compatability.

the 3d is good. Usually people say that they play it with it on just a bit or even off. for me its 100% 3d on all the time.

the last boss level of Face Raiders pissed me off, but I beat it.

The extending stylus is great, but they put it in a stupid spot. I'm right handed and I have to gake my hand completely off the controlls for me to get it, instead of putting my finger on it and swiping it out, like on the DS lite and the original DS. The buttons on the 3ds are nice and clicky, like on the original DS, which I love, I hated the mushy nasty feeling of the DS lite buttons. I've seen many people say that the wrist strap place is missing, but no, its just on the bottom, I have my original DS wrist strap, which is awesome for Metroid Prime Hunters.

Yep, its awesome and I am satisfied with my purchase.

[FireStar]

Tr3vor, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 4:39 PM, said:

the Backwards compatability (which is important, because I likes me pokemanz) is really good IMO, and all those complaining about how the 3ds has to make the image bigger than a 1:1 ratio are dumb. you can just hack yourself an old ass DS screen into your 3ds then. don't complain about having the higher resolution screen. geez. just that doesn't ruin backwards compatability.

There is actually a way to reduce the scaling, you have to hold start and select in the menu while starting the game. But it's so small, I'd rather just leave the scaling up. I'm not sure if this is officialy documented or not though. (you can also do this with the GBA VC games) The power saving mode is what screws up the backward compatibility since it washes out the colors, but you can turn that off.

[Tr3vor]

FireStar, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:45 PM, said:

Tr3vor, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 4:39 PM, said:

the Backwards compatability (which is important, because I likes me pokemanz) is really good IMO, and all those complaining about how the 3ds has to make the image bigger than a 1:1 ratio are dumb. you can just hack yourself an old ass DS screen into your 3ds then. don't complain about having the higher resolution screen. geez. just that doesn't ruin backwards compatability.

There is actually a way to reduce the scaling, you have to hold start and select in the menu while starting the game. But it's so small, I'd rather just leave the scaling up. I'm not sure if this is officialy documented or not though. (you can also do this with the GBA VC games) The power saving mode is what screws up the backward compatibility since it washes out the colors, but you can turn that off.

Cool. makes you really see how much higher the resolution is for bolth screens in comparison to the DS.

I never do the Power Saving mode anyway, cuz it makes everything look funny in the first place.

[Austin]

FireStar, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:45 PM, said:

(you can also do this with the GBA VC games)

Are GBA Virtual Console games even available yet? All I can find are GB/GBC and the 3D NES Classics.

[toptenmaterial]

Austin, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:56 PM, said:

FireStar, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:45 PM, said:

(you can also do this with the GBA VC games)

Are GBA Virtual Console games even available yet? All I can find are GB/GBC and the 3D NES Classics.

I think that Minish Cap is out and that's it.... I'd like to at least see the Super Mario Advance series.

By the way, I would strongly encourage anyone with a 3DS to check out Super Mario 3D Land! It's a great one!

[FireStar]

The GBA VC games are for 3ds "Ambassadors" only for now, but you mentioned minish cap, and the scaling change does work with DSi games as well.

Tr3vor, I think the bottom screen of the 3ds is the same as all the other DS's so the resolution the BC gives you normally is actually the same as the original DS's resolution. So I'm not sure why there is an option to make the resolution smaller in the first place.

[Atariboy]

FireStar, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 7:38 PM, said:

Tr3vor, I think the bottom screen of the 3ds is the same as all the other DS's so the resolution the BC gives you normally is actually the same as the original DS's resolution. So I'm not sure why there is an option to make the resolution smaller in the first place.

The bottom screen of the 3DS is the same resolution as the 4:3 area of top screen (If you lop off the extra space to both sides on the top screen, it's the exact same resolution as the bottom screen).

So that works out to 400×240 for the top screen of the 3DS (Either in 2D or per eye if you switch to 3D mode where both eyes get their own 400×240 view), 320×240 for the bottom screen of the 3DS, and 256×192 for either screen on the original DS.

So it isn't a big increase, but the 3DS does have an increased resolution on the bottom screen compared to the DS.

Edited by Atariboy, Wed Jan 4, 2012 10:10 PM.

[Tr3vor]

Atariboy, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 9:14 PM, said:

The bottom screen of the 3DS is the same resolution as the 4:3 area of top screen (If you lop off the extra space to both sides on the top screen, it's the exact same resolution as the bottom screen).

So that works out to 400×240 for the top screen of the 3DS (Either in 2D or per eye if you switch to 3D mode where both eyes get their own 400×240 view), 320×240 for the bottom screen of the 3DS, and 256×192 for either screen on the original DS.

So it isn't a big increase, but the 3DS does have an increased resolution on the bottom screen compared to the DS.

well if your comparing small resolutions like on the 3ds and DS, there is a noticable difference even if the resolution is upped just a bit, when you get into the 720p's and all that, if you add a bit of resolution, its would be hardly noticable. It all depends on the scale you are analyzing it in.

[Atariboy]

I wasn't analysing it.

I was just telling him the resolutions are, in fact, different. That's why you're able to make a DS game not fill the bottom screen when you set it to its native resolution.

It's a bit off topic, but it shouldn't be an issue with the Vita when playing PSP software. I noticed tonight that the resolution of the Vita is exactly double that of the PSP. So things should scale nicely.

[Mendon]

The wife-unit decided to get me the Flame Red w/Mario Land 3D for Christmas.... bless her!

My early impressions: time has been a precious commodity for me lately so I haven't had a lot of time to do much of anything but mainly just explore the system and its features.

I'm impressed with Mario 3D and having a lot of fun with it.
Nintendo Video might be a regular used feature for me as I enjoyed a couple of the video's.
The eShop seems not very well laid out and is sort of clumsy to use. I did grab Zelda: Four Swords while its available.
I've played a little with the camera and took a couple video's and it was sort of neat.

So far I like the system but having a DSi XL has sort of spoiled me for having a bigger screen.


Mendon

[Rex Dart]

Austin, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:56 PM, said:

FireStar, on Wed Jan 4, 2012 6:45 PM, said:

(you can also do this with the GBA VC games)

Are GBA Virtual Console games even available yet? All I can find are GB/GBC and the 3D NES Classics.

Through the ambassador program, yeah.