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#1 Ratty OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:08 PM

I've been retrogaming for five or so years, and here's one question that seems to get about as many different answers as there are blades of grass in a field. Some swear by windex which is a terrible idea as most can see, still others use steel wool or something similar to rub away the dirty part of the contacts. Which isn't so much "cleaning" as it is gaming sacrilege and slow contact murder.
Some claim to have a "magic bullet" super secret formula that they sell, probably along with deeds to various bridges. But when it comes to alcohol I had always heard that you should use the highest concentration you can find, but recently saw a suggestion of no more than 70% purity.
So what has worked the best for you? Also do you open up the cartridges for cleaning? If so on what systems?





EDIT: Should this have gone in the hardware section? Sorry if so, though there are other slightly technical topics here so not sure.

Edited by Ratty, Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:17 PM.


#2 VertigoProcess ONLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:34 PM

Q tip with brasso followed by alcohol 70% that's mixed with 50% water... makes um shine like new!

#3 MagitekAngel OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:37 PM

I use 70% and it gets stuff clean just fine. I have even used it to take sharpie off of game discs, but do so at your own risk - I wasn't certain at the time if I was going to make a coaster, and if I had rubbed too hard I might have. I don't generally open the cartridges, because of the few that I have opened out of curiosity, none have let any dirt or dust inside at all, even if they were outwardly pretty dirty.

#4 yell0w_lantern OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:39 AM

I've always heard that 90% or greater purity was preferred.

A number people recommend cleaning with a pencil eraser.

I've also seen a few recommendations for Mother's Mag and wheel Cleaner.

#5 nvrmndtheruins OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:19 AM

Depends on how dirty the cart is. ones I get that aren't bad I use q-tips and rubbing alcohol (i think its 70%). If its pretty bad I'll use a super soft children tooth brush with rubbing alcohol. If its really nasty and neither of those are doing the trick ill use my variable speed dremel on the lowest setting with a buffing tip and alcohol.

And I always open up my carts to clean them that way I can see how bad it is and get them really clean

#6 DemonoidTentacle OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:21 AM

I use a q-tip and metholated spirits. Works a treat.

#7 nvrmndtheruins OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:24 AM

View PostDemonoidTentacle, on Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:21 AM, said:

I use a q-tip and metholated spirits. Works a treat.

Always makes me think peppermint schnapps :lol:

#8 Galeforcerm OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:47 AM

De-ox it. Nothing works better. Why not use actual contact cleaner to clean contacts?

#9 Hatta OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:53 PM

View PostGaleforcerm, on Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:47 AM, said:

De-ox it. Nothing works better. Why not use actual contact cleaner to clean contacts?

Yes, this exactly. If you don't want to pay the premium for De-Oxit, any generic "contact cleaner" from the hardware store will work fine. Alcohol is not a particularly good solvent, it's mostly recommended because it's cheap, easy to find, and harmless. An actual contact cleaner will do better.

#10 marcfrick2112 OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:56 PM

Well, I usually use 91% alcohol (from Walgreens) if there is minor cleaning. I do want to caution all against using steel wool, cuz, it's conductive.... esp, with fine steel wool, a tiny little fragment could cause a short. I use ScotchBrite scrub pads, or similar products, and the previously-mentioned Brasso for more dirty carts.

Another thought: One of the European 'hi-end' polishes, such a Wenol (said as Venol, BTW) that have anti-tarnish agents in them, might keep contacts cleaner longer.

And YES, a true contact cleaner does the best. For the most severe cases, I use a product called Tun-O-Wash (contact + tuner cleaner) This stuff works great, but is really NASTY. I believe sellers are required to send MSDS to all purchasers, even individuals.
In addition, I may use a buffing wheel in one of my Dremel's , or so-called 'mizzy' wheels. Mizzy's are abrasive-impregnated rubber wheels.

Only ONE cart of mine ever needed the mizzy treatment. Of all things, my Doom64 cart!
:P

Edited by marcfrick2112, Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:17 PM.


#11 Seob ONLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:34 PM

The higher the alcohol the less water there is, so less change on corrosion, if you don't wipe of the alcohol good enough after cleaning.
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#12 Jibbajaba OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:43 PM

http://www.cgquarter.../cleangames.htm

This is how I do it.

Chris

#13 Yurkie OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:58 PM

De-Oxit is way better than any other contact cleaner. 99% isopropyl alcohol is the only kind that should be used, the remaining percents in the others is water. Why would you want to put water on contacts.

#14 yell0w_lantern OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:10 AM

What about acetone? We used it to dissolve non-polar substances in organic chemistry all the time.

#15 Hatta OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:41 PM

Acetone could weaken some of the plastic components on the board. If you're really careful and apply it only to the contacts it should work pretty well, but there is more of a danger of damaging something than with alcohol or contact cleaner.

#16 FireStar OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:24 PM

How good are erasers for contact cleaning? I know they're better than alcohol, since an eraser managed to get my 32x working, while alcohol didn't, but wouldn't the particles the eraser leaves be counter-productive?

#17 Armonigann OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:51 PM

When I use the eraser deal, I usually do a good swipe w/ 91% q-tipped, then a rub w/ microfiber cloth.


If that doe'snt work I just put peanut butter directly on contacts and let the dog lick it off.

#18 marcfrick2112 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:06 PM

LOL! Minus the peanut butter and dog, (do tarantula's count?) an eraser is a good idea too. I'd reccomend 'artists' GUM erasers for sensitive/rare carts....

#19 AtariLeaf OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:12 AM

View PostYurkie, on Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:58 PM, said:

De-Oxit is way better than any other contact cleaner. 99% isopropyl alcohol is the only kind that should be used, the remaining percents in the others is water. Why would you want to put water on contacts.

Yep, I buy ONLY 99% for that very reason. If they only have the 70% stuff, I pass.

#20 Classic Pac OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:58 AM

I use WD40 and a Qtip and hadn't had a single problem

#21 31336haxx0r OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:09 PM

View Postyell0w_lantern, on Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:10 AM, said:

What about acetone? We used it to dissolve non-polar substances in organic chemistry all the time.

Acetone is aprotic but still polar. You don't want that stuff near cases made polystyrene or any other plastics along those lines. I think PCBs should survive acetone just fine, though. If you really want to dissolve non-polar stuff I recommend diethyl ether for contacts and tolulene for lab use. :)

#22 yell0w_lantern OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:16 PM

Please, the last time I handled diethyl ether I had a headache for 2 days AND it didn't help me sleep. I hadn't thought about toluene though; easy enough to get, too.

#23 31336haxx0r OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:57 PM

Just don't stick your nose in diethyl ether! Been there, done that. :D We had a fun time at the rotovap, though. :D

Edit: try xylene if those folks are afraid you may intend to stuff some nitric acid and other assorted stuff ;) to the poor tolulene.

Edited by 31336haxx0r, Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:00 PM.


#24 theredlineboss OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:49 PM

I generally use the standard 70% alcohol on my carts and it takes care of most of the problems I have encountered. The more stubborn ones (NES in particular) get dismantled & the contacts cleaned with Mother's Mag polish. I have had very few carts with issues after that.

-Rob

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Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:26 AM

Big pink pencil eraser followed by a wipe with a lint free cloth that has some pure isopropyl alcohol on it.

If that doesn't do it then I break out the fiberglass pencil.

Edited by channelmaniac, Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:26 AM.





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