I'll admit, in the past I've been a bit skeptical 3D adds much to gaming.
The red/blue glasses of old (SMS, NES) were in a word....crappy.
The shutter glasses games of old (Virtual boy) were in a word....crappy.
The 3DS while not entirely crappy 3D didn't really cause my jaw to drop, or want to post an opinion. (If anything I might complain that if you aren't positioned just perfectly the 3D is moot because the effect is ruined) The fact I'm not a huge fan of handhelds might also have something to do with it. Screens are just too small, and I rarely am in a situation where I need to game while out and about.
So we just an LG 3DTV (The kind of 3DTV that used the same passive glasses as you get in the theater) and let me tell you after trying Halo Anniversary on this TV I'm sold. What an awesome experience. After being completely blown away by Tron Legacy 3D and joking around I was going to step into the grid, we played Halo and I couldn't believe my eyes. I walked up to a NPC pointing a gun at me, and that gun was pointed right at ME!!! I immediately went on Amazon and purchased a couple more games that take advantage of 3D, Enslaved and Crysis 2. I already have Avatar which I think will be a perfect game to play in 3D but I have yet to try it. I'm just very excited about this new technology. This TV even does 2D to 3D which means potentially any game I play now can have 3D added to it. I haven't messed with that much, but can't wait to try it out in Skyrim. Just curious if anyone on the boards has experience with the current 3D technology in regards to the 360 and PS3 and what they think of it.
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Started by moycon, Dec 10 2011 7:01 PM
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Posted Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:47 PM
The 2D to 3D effect I find pretty meh. But games that are written for 3D - holy cow batman! Gears of War 3 is fantastic, and Uncharted 3 is freaking mindblowing in 3D.
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Posted Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:21 PM
moycon, on Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:01 PM, said:
The red/blue glasses of old (SMS, NES) were in a word....crappy.
The SMS uses shutter-style glasses, actually, not red/blue. IMHO it works pretty well (I picked up a pair recently and was very surprised by how good they looked).
Also, the Virtual Boy doesn't use shutter-style, does it? I thought it operated via a dual-screen system.
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I have tried those tv's and they are nice but the 3d is not as good as mitsubishi,Panasonic and others that use powered 3d glasses. the effect is not quite as good, however has to be cheaper, I spent a bundle on 4 pairs of glasses! 2d to 3d is a nice plus for sure though.
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gears is the best so far mainly towards the end underwater. I had issues with crysis because in 3d the text was too small to read. In any case, I love games in 3d.
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thegoldenband, on Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:21 PM, said:
The SMS uses shutter-style glasses, actually, not red/blue.
Hmmmm It's been so long , but now that I think of it, you're right. I think the issue was I don't wear glasses so wearng those bulky Sega glasses was just an uncomfortable experience from the get go. I always thought the VB used the same technology because they were so bulky. Details aside, after playing both many, many years ago...I wasn't blown away by either the SMS 3D or the VB, in fact I found both pretty distracting as a whole.
atarian63, on Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:46 PM, said:
I have tried those tv's
At this point and time, I could not care less what your opinion is in regards to anything atarian63, and as usual, whatever you post...I'll assume the opposite is true. Still, Thanks for your input in regards to the TV we got! I now know for certain we made the right choice.
Starscream, on Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:23 PM, said:
gears is the best so far mainly towards the end underwater.
Don't have Gears 3 yet. I'll have to check it out for sure!!
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moycon, on Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:01 PM, said:
I'll admit, in the past I've been a bit skeptical 3D adds much to gaming.
The red/blue glasses of old (SMS, NES) were in a word....crappy.
The shutter glasses games of old (Virtual boy) were in a word....crappy.
The 3DS while not entirely crappy 3D didn't really cause my jaw to drop, or want to post an opinion. (If anything I might complain that if you aren't positioned just perfectly the 3D is moot because the effect is ruined) The fact I'm not a huge fan of handhelds might also have something to do with it. Screens are just too small, and I rarely am in a situation where I need to game while out and about.
So we just an LG 3DTV (The kind of 3DTV that used the same passive glasses as you get in the theater) and let me tell you after trying Halo Anniversary on this TV I'm sold. What an awesome experience. After being completely blown away by Tron Legacy 3D and joking around I was going to step into the grid, we played Halo and I couldn't believe my eyes. I walked up to a NPC pointing a gun at me, and that gun was pointed right at ME!!! I immediately went on Amazon and purchased a couple more games that take advantage of 3D, Enslaved and Crysis 2. I already have Avatar which I think will be a perfect game to play in 3D but I have yet to try it. I'm just very excited about this new technology. This TV even does 2D to 3D which means potentially any game I play now can have 3D added to it. I haven't messed with that much, but can't wait to try it out in Skyrim. Just curious if anyone on the boards has experience with the current 3D technology in regards to the 360 and PS3 and what they think of it.
The red/blue glasses of old (SMS, NES) were in a word....crappy.
The shutter glasses games of old (Virtual boy) were in a word....crappy.
The 3DS while not entirely crappy 3D didn't really cause my jaw to drop, or want to post an opinion. (If anything I might complain that if you aren't positioned just perfectly the 3D is moot because the effect is ruined) The fact I'm not a huge fan of handhelds might also have something to do with it. Screens are just too small, and I rarely am in a situation where I need to game while out and about.
So we just an LG 3DTV (The kind of 3DTV that used the same passive glasses as you get in the theater) and let me tell you after trying Halo Anniversary on this TV I'm sold. What an awesome experience. After being completely blown away by Tron Legacy 3D and joking around I was going to step into the grid, we played Halo and I couldn't believe my eyes. I walked up to a NPC pointing a gun at me, and that gun was pointed right at ME!!! I immediately went on Amazon and purchased a couple more games that take advantage of 3D, Enslaved and Crysis 2. I already have Avatar which I think will be a perfect game to play in 3D but I have yet to try it. I'm just very excited about this new technology. This TV even does 2D to 3D which means potentially any game I play now can have 3D added to it. I haven't messed with that much, but can't wait to try it out in Skyrim. Just curious if anyone on the boards has experience with the current 3D technology in regards to the 360 and PS3 and what they think of it.
Welcome aboard Moycon! Did you read my similar thread in the PS3 section? Your reaction is similar to mine. LOL
I was blown away at the sense of immersion. I felt like I was IN the game. Post what your thoughts on what are good games to play in 3D. Some seem to be better than others but all are pretty good visually.
I still get a little tired wearing the glasses but once they are on its hard to take them off. Awesome!
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cimerians, on Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:19 AM, said:
Welcome aboard Moycon! Did you read my similar thread in the PS3 section?
I knew I had recently posted in a similar thread but yesterday couldn't find it. I think I was doing a search in the wrong forum. I havn't tried any PS3 games in 3D, but I do use the PS3 to play my movies! Last night I ordered Polar Express and Pirahna 3D. Planning on checking out some of the games though as well. After checking that other thread I see I have a few 3D games on the Ps3. Pain, High Velocity Bowling and God of War Collection.
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I have a VIZIO that uses the polarized 3D glasses. I love it.
Batman: Arkham City in 3D is a blast.
Batman: Arkham City in 3D is a blast.
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After finding out that passive 3D exists (couldn't see paying out the ass for shutter glasses, after paying out the ass for a 120-240hz TV) I'll probably pick one up, as soon as one becomes available here (after christmas) probably if they drop to the $500 or sub range.
I've actually seen one, Vizio, and it had the BD player and some stuff with it, but I dont need the stuff, and they have a TV right next to it for $300 cheaper, exact same set as near as I can tell, but it doesn't claim 3D so I don't know.
I'll wait.
As for 3D....the Blue/red glasses (and to a lesser extent, the purple green ones of the more modern era) have never really impressed me, first, the color goes out, so basically it looks better as a B/W image (which to me destroys part of the 3D experience) or you get fuggly colors, and usually, as most people don't know how to properly adjust their TV's (comeon, it's a $5 disc from amazon, not hard) you often ended up with a ghosted image in one, or both eyes, further destroying the illusion.
Go to shutter glasses, we had some for the PC soetime in the 90's, and I remember one for the SMS back in the 80's, both had the same problem...The hz rating of your TV means the fastest the image could refresh was the equivalent of 30 hz (thoug some computers got better in the late 90's) so you had a migraine inducing flickering headache before to long (your brain is NOT designed to process images that way) Only in recent years with 120hz (60hz3d) and 240hz (120hz3D) have shutter glasses even become a useful option, as you get to the speed your brain no longer "sees" the individual frames flickering in each eye.
Virtual boy did it right....in about two games that really showcased good 3D....the problem in this systems case was two fold, (and I'm not going to even go into the incompetent people who simply couldn't follow simple directions and adjust the thing right) One, it was monochrome, which I've already said, takes a LOT away from the 3D experience,and 2 the games were largely 2D games. You can fancy them up, but the 2D pinball table still looks like an illusion of 3D rather than a proper one. Like I said, a couple did it good. Wario was purely 2D, but had a nice background/foreground effect, which worked great. Mario Tennis worked awesomly, and Red alert was simi 3D actually. But I think the hardware just wasn't quiet there yet...and most games took little advantage of it, and the 3D was more eye candy than anything.
Fast forward to today, get something like a Toshiba 3D laptop, that's awesome, almost wish it had an input just so I could use it with my Xbox (supposedly supported) 3D games. And it's a great effect....though it has a limited viewing range, not just side to side, but near to far. Same with 3DS. Great effect, just no Input (though if 3DS follows suit, they will get a video tuner just like the other nintendo handhelds did, so we'll see) But...for the first time tht I can recall, games are actually being made where depth comes into play, literally. Yeah, you got some games like Ghost Recon Shadow Wars, which is 2D styled with 3D visuals....but you got the racing games, Pilot wings, and Super Mario 3D land which actually make use of the fact that you are seeing a 3D image and the better games take advantage of that and actually reward you for paying attention to how near or far you are to objects, the edge of a level, or enemies.
Dont get me wrong, 2D wont go anywhere, untill 3D becomes so prominent and cheap, that it makes no sense to go with 2D (kind of like how B/W TV's were common up till the mid 80's, despite all tv programs being made in color from the mid 70's on up) But, 3D is definitely here to stay. The low relative cost will probably cause linticular screens (toshiba, and a similar effecdt on 3DS) and the polarized screens (passive 3D vizio) will probably kill the shutter glasses...but those have a good place too (showing 2 video images at once on one screen, though I suppose with proper glasses you could do that with passive 3D also. So it's going to stick around, besides, people are designed to see 3D, despite some arguing that "not everybody does" so eventually it will win out regardless.
I've actually seen one, Vizio, and it had the BD player and some stuff with it, but I dont need the stuff, and they have a TV right next to it for $300 cheaper, exact same set as near as I can tell, but it doesn't claim 3D so I don't know.
I'll wait.
As for 3D....the Blue/red glasses (and to a lesser extent, the purple green ones of the more modern era) have never really impressed me, first, the color goes out, so basically it looks better as a B/W image (which to me destroys part of the 3D experience) or you get fuggly colors, and usually, as most people don't know how to properly adjust their TV's (comeon, it's a $5 disc from amazon, not hard) you often ended up with a ghosted image in one, or both eyes, further destroying the illusion.
Go to shutter glasses, we had some for the PC soetime in the 90's, and I remember one for the SMS back in the 80's, both had the same problem...The hz rating of your TV means the fastest the image could refresh was the equivalent of 30 hz (thoug some computers got better in the late 90's) so you had a migraine inducing flickering headache before to long (your brain is NOT designed to process images that way) Only in recent years with 120hz (60hz3d) and 240hz (120hz3D) have shutter glasses even become a useful option, as you get to the speed your brain no longer "sees" the individual frames flickering in each eye.
Virtual boy did it right....in about two games that really showcased good 3D....the problem in this systems case was two fold, (and I'm not going to even go into the incompetent people who simply couldn't follow simple directions and adjust the thing right) One, it was monochrome, which I've already said, takes a LOT away from the 3D experience,and 2 the games were largely 2D games. You can fancy them up, but the 2D pinball table still looks like an illusion of 3D rather than a proper one. Like I said, a couple did it good. Wario was purely 2D, but had a nice background/foreground effect, which worked great. Mario Tennis worked awesomly, and Red alert was simi 3D actually. But I think the hardware just wasn't quiet there yet...and most games took little advantage of it, and the 3D was more eye candy than anything.
Fast forward to today, get something like a Toshiba 3D laptop, that's awesome, almost wish it had an input just so I could use it with my Xbox (supposedly supported) 3D games. And it's a great effect....though it has a limited viewing range, not just side to side, but near to far. Same with 3DS. Great effect, just no Input (though if 3DS follows suit, they will get a video tuner just like the other nintendo handhelds did, so we'll see) But...for the first time tht I can recall, games are actually being made where depth comes into play, literally. Yeah, you got some games like Ghost Recon Shadow Wars, which is 2D styled with 3D visuals....but you got the racing games, Pilot wings, and Super Mario 3D land which actually make use of the fact that you are seeing a 3D image and the better games take advantage of that and actually reward you for paying attention to how near or far you are to objects, the edge of a level, or enemies.
Dont get me wrong, 2D wont go anywhere, untill 3D becomes so prominent and cheap, that it makes no sense to go with 2D (kind of like how B/W TV's were common up till the mid 80's, despite all tv programs being made in color from the mid 70's on up) But, 3D is definitely here to stay. The low relative cost will probably cause linticular screens (toshiba, and a similar effecdt on 3DS) and the polarized screens (passive 3D vizio) will probably kill the shutter glasses...but those have a good place too (showing 2 video images at once on one screen, though I suppose with proper glasses you could do that with passive 3D also. So it's going to stick around, besides, people are designed to see 3D, despite some arguing that "not everybody does" so eventually it will win out regardless.
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