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#1 emkay OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:56 AM

Some of those C64 guys really can impress with their artistic abilities. I wonder , what they could do on the A8 with a fully working GFX tool...

G2F is a nice tool, but as it seems, it still misses features...

GRPRIOR-Medusa.png

This picture is using GRIOR 0 . But it's not fully usable.I had to use charset mode to add a colour, but still a colour is missing.

As you might know, midline changes were easily possible, to re-use any GTIA register.

Usually colours were changed, but this mean you change one colour at cpu speed .
Changing the position of a player makes it possible to set more than one time per scanline...
Using GPRIOR 0 allows to set 2 colours in the same time as one colour register has to be set.

It's almost the same in GTIA modes. Re-using the PMG will offer more colours and resolution per scanline.

So the best GFx Tool must allow to re-position PMG and to show it correct, as the original machine does....

Edited by emkay, Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:35 AM.

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Posted Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:06 AM

where is this pic coming from? :)

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Posted Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:14 AM


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Posted Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:35 AM

You can already do all that with the tool mk, it only doesn't handle displaying it 100% yet... as it happens Tebe is sorting that at the moment in the latest betas

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"Fixed display of PMG ... for prior0"

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Posted Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:49 AM

View PostTezz, on Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:35 AM, said:

You can already do all that with the tool mk, it only doesn't handle displaying it 100% yet... as it happens Tebe is sorting that at the moment in the latest betas

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"Fixed display of PMG ... for prior0"

The re used PM shows correct?

Another logical bug is the reduced abilities of re-using PMg when the screen is 48 bytes wide. If you want to use Raster changes it's limited to 40 bytes.... it has been better in earlier version.

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Posted Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:00 AM

View Postemkay, on Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:49 AM, said:

The re used PM shows correct?
It does now display correctly yes :)

Quick test pics attached showing g2f display and emu.

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Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:26 AM

Some explanations on the picture.
While the C64 version is recommended to have a special brightness on each colours - you might know C64 varies with that - on the A8 pic Medusa's face is already using 6 colours, five from one hue, AND the snakes use 3 extra colours.
Three grays still available... or other colours.... have to check the midline changing correctness ;)

Edited by emkay, Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:26 AM.

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Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:27 AM

the pink in the human face is missing... :D

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Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:50 AM

View PostHeaven/TQA, on Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:27 AM, said:

the pink in the human face is missing... :D

I'm lucky, i'ts not there

But if you want a pinky medusa ;)


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Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:38 AM

much better... :D

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:01 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:01 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:01 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:01 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:01 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:02 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:02 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:02 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:02 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:02 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:02 AM

Could be interesting to finf the 100% style for using GPRIOR 0 in fullscreen pictures.

A bit inversion/choice for the pixel below the PMg could solve miracles. As a 4(5) colour picture gets weird, because dark pixel become bright and vice versa.
Just like the "change colours" feature , but only for the range of the PM object/range.

a4e.png

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:41 AM

Cool .... Multi Post. Seems the server is a bit busy sometimes...

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:55 AM

View Postemkay, on Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:41 AM, said:

Cool .... Multi Post. Seems the server is a bit busy sometimes...
Cool I love multi posts.

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:13 AM

View Postrdea6, on Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:55 AM, said:

View Postemkay, on Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:41 AM, said:

Cool .... Multi Post. Seems the server is a bit busy sometimes...
Cool I love multi posts.
Cool, I think I'm starting to like multi-posts too... it's a good way to get a point across.

Note: The server's always busy at the time notated on your post.

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Posted Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:14 AM

View Postrdea6, on Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:55 AM, said:

View Postemkay, on Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:41 AM, said:

Cool .... Multi Post. Seems the server is a bit busy sometimes...
Cool I love multi posts.
Cool, I think I'm starting to like multi-posts too... it's a good way to get a point across.

Note: The server's always busy at the time notated on your post.
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