19 replies to this topic

[Kurt Edward Kaschak]

hello looking for a flash cart preff one that saves the game to its memory and no im not gonna put roms on the flash cart i own alot of jag games i just want a flash cart mainly for demos and homebrew games i looked on ebay nothing help me out thanks also is it possible to run roms or homebrew games off a burnt cd via the jaguar cd addon

[ACrystal2011]

I'm pretty sure skunkboard is the only one

[rush6432]

depends on the homebrew game or demo and if its compiled to run from a cartridge/cd/internal system ram....

Might check out goatstore.com to see if they have any skunkboards left.

[ACrystal2011]

He doesn't want a skunkboard I talked to him in chat. Not sure what hes looking for really

[Austin]

If you don't want a Skunk, you're best off using your Jag CD for demos and homebrews.

[Kurt Edward Kaschak]

im looking for a way to run home brew jaguar roms off the jaguar cd instead of off a cart

[CD-i]

http://reboot.atari.org/uls/uls.html

[goatdan]

Kurt Edward Kaschak, on Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:07 AM, said:

im looking for a way to run home brew jaguar roms off the jaguar cd instead of off a cart

Wait -- which one is it? If you're looking to run homebrew Jaguar roms off the Jaguar CD, there are some that you can do that with -- not all though, it's not like you can get any old ROM, burn it to CD and have it work.

...but if you do that, you won't be able to save, which is what you had said that you wanted to do in your first post.

Now, having said that, I don't know of too many (any?) homebrew titles that require saves on a flash cart... because a flash cart that features saves doesn't exist. If that's truly the reason that you're looking for one, a Skunkboard would serve you much better, as I personally expect the majority of Jaguar developers will use Skunkboards for their development purposes in the near future at least, making it a medium that developers will work around the limitations of when publishing their games.

Personally, I'd be really surprised if a cart with the ability to save came out any time soon. I definitely know about the arm and a leg it cost to manufacture the Skunkboards, and I don't know if there would be enough of a market left to justify a huge run of flash cards that would do basically the same thing.

[GT Turbo]

goatdan, on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:49 PM, said:

Personally, I'd be really surprised if a cart with the ability to save came out any time soon.

Hi,

This flashcart exist : http://www.jagware.o...indpost&p=13159

GT

[ls650]

That announcement is from September 2010. I suspect we won't see a release any time soon.

[rush6432]

I hope it comes out eventually, would mean eaiser release medium for all developers.

[goatdan]

GT Turbo, on Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:35 AM, said:

goatdan, on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:49 PM, said:

Personally, I'd be really surprised if a cart with the ability to save came out any time soon.

Hi,

This flashcart exist : http://www.jagware.o...indpost&p=13159

Exists as in someone made an announcement about it, yes. Exists in has been made available for sale? Not yet that I know of.

One thing that I feared for with that project from the beginning was that with hardware stuff, the possibility of failures is pretty significant. I believe that the first place that Tursi used to do the Skunkboards were about half the cost of the manufacturer that we used to make them this last time, but I also believe that the failure rate of the first run of boards was nearly 50%.


The other thing with those -- I hope that none of the chips go obsolete. You either have to take a huge risk and produce a LOT of them to enusre the chips don't go out of production, or you have to cross your fingers and hope the parts will be there when you're ready to produce. We already proved what a pain in the butt that can be with the Skunkboards.

I hope they make it -- I think they would be a heck of a way to make new releases. Has anyone heard any updates?

[GT Turbo]

goatdan, on Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:58 AM, said:

Exists as in someone made an announcement about it, yes. Exists in has been made available for sale? Not yet that I know of.

Some Jagware members got one. Like you said, need to find good a good manufacturer for doing series, that's the real problem.

GT

[matmook]

Yup, got one and all I can say is : perfect !

[Hatta]

Why is finding a manufacturer a real problem? They were able to do it for the Harmony cart, for the 1541U, for the CFFA3000, for all the Everdrives, etc, etc.

[BuddyBuddies]

I have several original flash carts for sale. Selling many of my Jaguar items. If anybody is interested send me a PM. thanks


"JAGUAR RULES!"

[goatdan]

GT Turbo, on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:03 AM, said:

goatdan, on Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:58 AM, said:

Exists as in someone made an announcement about it, yes. Exists in has been made available for sale? Not yet that I know of.

Some Jagware members got one. Like you said, need to find good a good manufacturer for doing series, that's the real problem. GT

Yeah, but that still means that they really haven't been made available for sale yet.

[goatdan]

Hatta, on Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:23 PM, said:

Why is finding a manufacturer a real problem? They were able to do it for the Harmony cart, for the 1541U, for the CFFA3000, for all the Everdrives, etc, etc.

"One thing that I feared for with that project from the beginning was that with hardware stuff, the possibility of failures is pretty significant. I believe that the first place that Tursi used to do the Skunkboards were about half the cost of the manufacturer that we used to make them this last time, but I also believe that the failure rate of the first run of boards was nearly 50%."

[Tursi]

Finding a manufacturer isn't a real problem. It's just balancing quality with cost. The last three runs of Skunkboards went through Screaming Circuits and I'm very happy with the results.

The original manufacturer for the Rev 1 board was in Malaysia at about 80% of the cost and had a 45% failure rate (Dan's just trying to remember random values I threw out during conversation ). Failures were largely attributed to bad parts placement. Although I was able to recover some of those boards, most of the bad boards ended up in the trash (in fairness, though, we're only talking about 12-13 boards).

But every rev of the board had some layout changes and that always induces risk. To assume otherwise is being foolish. The only relatively low risk run was the Ghost Skunks, since nothing changed except we asked for a different solder mask color. (And maybe the second half of the rev 2 boards, but I think we ordered them before receiving the first half...)

I deliberately terrified Dan about the possibility of total failure to ensure that he understood that there was risk here (I did the same with a couple of others who approached me about manufacture in the past, as well ).

[goatdan]

Tursi, on Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:22 PM, said:

I deliberately terrified Dan about the possibility of total failure to ensure that he understood that there was risk here (I did the same with a couple of others who approached me about manufacture in the past, as well ).

Yeah, sorry -- the half price number I must have messed up in my head with the 45% number. Having said that, no matter which way you slice it, full failure is always a possibility with running anything. Hell, we made thousands of Dreamcast coasters when we tried releasing Inhabitants and Maqiupai, and that was what should have been a relatively low-risk situation.