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#1 BillyHW OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:30 PM

Greetings Lynxsters!

All this Lynx talk has inspired me to make a trek down to the basement tonight to try and find this long ago forgotten treasure. Pray for me friends, as I will have to brave cobwebs, spiders and centipedes, and who knows what other goonies that will stand in my way.

Does anyone know what I should expect? How do those old LCD screens stand up to (now over 20 years of) age? Do they degrade over time without use? And will the buttons still work after all this time?

I hope the news is good and I will let you know. :)

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Posted Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:32 PM

You have to hope that you didn't leave batteries in it that have leaked.

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Posted Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:39 PM

View PostGroovyBee, on Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:32 PM, said:

You have to hope that you didn't leave batteries in it that have leaked.

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:37 PM

A Gamegear would likely have no more sound or a weak screen (dying capacitors). In contrast to this, a Gameboy and a Lynx age well. The carts do either. Your biggest fear should be gigantic spiders :-o ;)

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:39 PM

View PostAtari_afternoon, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:37 PM, said:

A Gamegear would likely have no more sound or a weak screen (dying capacitors).

How hard is it to replace gamegear capacitors?

#6 BillyHW OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:12 PM

Lynx Lives! I have a video I'll try to post later when I get a chance.

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:58 PM

Hey folks, so I took a video of me turning on my Lynx for the first time in oh, maybe 10 or 15 years. I honestly don't remember. I did not try it before filming. This is literally the first attempt and I did not know what to expect.


View My Video


Some interesting notes:


I have the original model, but my buttons and D-pad are the same color as the body, not black like some of the pictures? Do any of you have a Lynx I with black D-pad and buttons? I wonder why there were differences.

The power jack seems to me a bit loose (no magsafe connectors back then). I'm not sure if it was always this way or if maybe the glue connecting it to the motherboard has degraded. I'll try to be gentle

Luckily, no batteries inside. But I rarely used batteries with this thing. I almost always used the AC adaptor. I haven't yet tried it with batteries to see if it works with them. I remember when I first got it that the bottom two batteries would often get stuck down there because the compartment design was a little too small. Loosening the screws on the outside of the machine would help a bit.

The underside of the battery door is all icky. There is a foam pad there and the glue underneath is has gotten all disgusting and degraded. It's gooey. I didn't know that could happen to glue, but you learn something new every day I guess.

D-pad and buttons all work fine. Maybe the lefthand buttons (which I never used) feel a bit newer, but those could be easily switched with the righthanded ones if those ever failed. No need to do that now though as they are just fine.

I have a small 2mm diameter white spot on the clear plastic LCD screen cover, from when the Lynx was banged against something (probably by my brother). Fortunately it's not too bad, and you don't notice it too much when the screen is on and you're playing.

I only have 4 games (I was poor). California games (flat), Gauntlet (lip), Klax (lip), Ninja Gaiden (lip). Only found the Klax and Ninja Gaiden boxes though. Appear to be missing the Gauntlet box, though I do have the manual. I don't think I've ever seen a ridged cart. I remember playing Blue Lightning quite a bit which I borrowed from a friend, as well as ElectroCop and a little bit of Chips Challenge that he had.

I remember it was a total bitch to remove California Games from the Lynx when I first got it. And I was always afraid I was going to break something because of how much pressure you had to put on it pressing down.

I remember the last time I played with my Lynx, it had a dead pixel. It wasn't there when it was new, but came much later. There's no longer any dead pixel (hooray). However, I was playing Ninja Gaiden twice and there appeared to be a dead pixel, but it was moving with the background, so I don't know if maybe there is something wrong with the cart.

The buttons and D-pad on the Lynx I (never tried a Lynx II) are very high quality and feel great. The D-pad has a nice feel and bouncy click to it, and true direction. Buttons could use a little more bounce, but are fine. Not as good as a Nintendo controller, but good in it's own right, and much better than some of the other controllers out there.

The cart port should be on the right side instead of the left.

Now the screen...

For those that remember just how awful the GameBoy puke green on a puke yellow background was back then, and how awfully blurry it got during motion, the Lynx screen at the time was pretty incredible by comparison. I remember really showing it off to people whom I knew who had GameBoys, and there were also impressed. This was the first LCD I ever laid eyes upon. But the screen is really quite the POS now. The viewing angle is less than 0 degrees, and by that I mean it is actually impossible to find an angle where the whole screen looks just right. If the top of the screen looks just right, then the bottom is a bit off, and vice-versa. The effect is worse on vertically oriented games when your left and right eyes are viewing the screen from different angles. You are constantly adjusting the angle of the Lynx as well as the brightness control to find the sweet spot. Jacking the brightness all the way up turns the screen completely white, and turning it all the way down turns everything into photonegative.

The colours are really washed out and unsaturated. The pixels are *huge* and because of this, there is the equivalent of a massive screen door effect caused by the red sub-pixels.

And the backlight bleed around the edges is positively criminal. I can't believe they didn't so something about this. It seems to me like some perfectly cut and placed electrical tape could fix this if someone was will to open up their lynx and mod it a little bit.

I'm not sure how the Lynx screen compared to the Game Gear screen cause I've never actually played with a Game Gear or seen one turned on.

Love the sound, especially in Cal. Games and Klax. Haven't tried the headphone jack yet.

Haven't yet opened up the box to see what's inside.

The Lynx is powerful and could so some amazing things with sprites. Smooth animation, fast rotation and scaling of sprites (I think SNES could only do backgrounds, right?), and tons of them on the screen at the same time in some games with no slowdown or flicker. With a high resolution mode and a composite video out, the Lynx could have been a home system. Frankly, I don't know why Epyx/Atari didn't try this. A Lynx Home and Lynx Portable released in 1987 or 88 could have been a serious contender, and maybe even been the PC Engine of North America.

Edited by BillyHW, Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:10 PM.


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Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:21 PM

View PostACrystal2011, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:39 PM, said:

View PostAtari_afternoon, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:37 PM, said:

A Gamegear would likely have no more sound or a weak screen (dying capacitors).

How hard is it to replace gamegear capacitors?

Not that hard. I'm not a wizard with a soldering iron, but managed to repair 5 out of 5. Same symptoms all over: sound only via headphone jack and bad contrast (where you had to tilt the screen to an extreme angle to see anything).
There is a lot to find out there on the capacitors that you need and which to replace for which funtion.
Here's one to get you started.
http://wolfsoft.de/wordpress/?p=270

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Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM

View PostBillyHW, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:58 PM, said:

Appear to be missing the Gauntlet box, though I do have the manual. I don't think I've ever seen a ridged cart.

The Atari Age section on Lynx cartridge styles lists the cartridges quite accurately:
http://www.atariage....l?SystemID=LYNX

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Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM

View PostLX.NET, on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM, said:

View PostBillyHW, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:58 PM, said:

Appear to be missing the Gauntlet box, though I do have the manual. I don't think I've ever seen a ridged cart.

The Atari Age section on Lynx cartridge styles lists the cartridges quite accurately:
http://www.atariage....l?SystemID=LYNX

Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a ridged cart in real life. Only flat and lipped.

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Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM

View PostBillyHW, on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM, said:

Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a ridged cart in real life. Only flat and lipped.

I believe I have got a ridged (flat with the two grip edges sticking out) versions of Gates of Zendocon and Chip's Challenge lying around. If you're interested feel free to PM me.

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Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:11 PM

I have 3 ridged carts but not chips challenge

#13 BillyHW OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:04 AM

View PostLX.NET, on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM, said:

View PostBillyHW, on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM, said:

Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a ridged cart in real life. Only flat and lipped.

I believe I have got a ridged (flat with the two grip edges sticking out) versions of Gates of Zendocon and Chip's Challenge lying around. If you're interested feel free to PM me.

Thanks, but I have no money to be collecting right now.

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:11 PM

View PostBillyHW, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:58 PM, said:

The Lynx is powerful and could so some amazing things with sprites. Smooth animation, fast rotation and scaling of sprites (I think SNES could only do backgrounds, right?), and tons of them on the screen at the same time in some games with no slowdown or flicker. With a high resolution mode and a composite video out, the Lynx could have been a home system. Frankly, I don't know why Epyx/Atari didn't try this. A Lynx Home and Lynx Portable released in 1987 or 88 could have been a serious contender, and maybe even been the PC Engine of North America.

I've thought the same thing. The Lynx could do things that no other home console could do at that time. Warbirds, Blue Lightning, and Steel Talons are a few examples. The SNES had its Star Fox, but there was no freedom of movement like you had in those Lynx games.

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:14 PM

And Star Fox came out much later.

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:29 PM

Wasn't a loose power jack the #1 complaint amongst Lynx owners of either generation?

And there are (at least) two styles of D-pads on the Lynx 1: a black 4-way "cross" controller, and a grey, round 8-way controller. I much prefer the latter one.

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:46 PM

The black cross is on the Lynx II. All the Lynx 1 versions seem to have the round one (even if the cross itself is painted black). There seems to be some variation in Lynx 1 colours for the body, d-pad and buttons. I wonder why.

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:11 PM

View PostJohnBuell, on Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:29 PM, said:

And there are (at least) two styles of D-pads on the Lynx 1: a black 4-way "cross" controller, and a grey, round 8-way controller. I much prefer the latter one.

I have the cross d-pad version. I actually didn't know it existed until I got this specific unit. The last Lynx Model 1 I owned had the roundish 8-way d-pad. It was a good bit more comfortable, for sure!

#19 BillyHW OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM

View PostAustin, on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:11 PM, said:

View PostJohnBuell, on Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:29 PM, said:

And there are (at least) two styles of D-pads on the Lynx 1: a black 4-way "cross" controller, and a grey, round 8-way controller. I much prefer the latter one.

I have the cross d-pad version. I actually didn't know it existed until I got this specific unit. The last Lynx Model 1 I owned had the roundish 8-way d-pad. It was a good bit more comfortable, for sure!

Can you take a photo and post it?

(btw, you can see the model I have in the video I posted above.

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:20 PM

View PostBillyHW, on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM, said:

Can you take a photo and post it? (btw, you can see the model I have in the video I posted above.

I could probably take a photo of it. There's a good photo of the 8-way version in the AA database: http://www.atariage...._LynxSystem.jpg

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Posted Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:33 PM

View PostAustin, on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:20 PM, said:

View PostBillyHW, on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM, said:

Can you take a photo and post it? (btw, you can see the model I have in the video I posted above.

I could probably take a photo of it. There's a good photo of the 8-way version in the AA database: http://www.atariage...._LynxSystem.jpg

Yes, this is my exact model. Same colours too. I want to see a photo of your 4-way.

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Posted Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:02 PM

View PostBillyHW, on Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:33 PM, said:

Yes, this is my exact model. Same colours too. I want to see a photo of your 4-way.
By coincidence I just saw this picture of a Lynx on the Internet today. The control pad on that definitely appears to be more than merely painted — it's bevelled outward rather than inward, appears to be thinner and isn't obviously attached to the circular pad. That said, I'm just speculating from the picture.

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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM

My Lynx has the cross-shaped D-pad too. I prefer it over the flatter Lynx II one, but have never tried the circular one.

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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:19 PM

View PostMoya Jackie, on Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM, said:

My Lynx has the cross-shaped D-pad too. I prefer it over the flatter Lynx II one, but have never tried the circular one.

Please take a good picture and post it.

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