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#1 Willsy OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:51 AM

can a horizon RAM disk safely co-exist with a SAMS memory card? I'm expecting trouble if the horizon card includes the 32k RAM on board. :(

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:34 AM

Mark,

The 32K chip is usually moved to the SAMS card from the HRD card. That is how it works on my setup.

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:06 AM

Hmmm... Well, my SAMS card already had 32k on it, and so does the RAM disk (i think). I bought the RAM disk from Bud Mills at the Chicago Faire. It's heavily expanded with stacks of chips piggy-backing each other. Any idea which IC is the 32k? Need a photo?

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:33 AM

View PostWillsy, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:06 AM, said:

Hmmm... Well, my SAMS card already had 32k on it, and so does the RAM disk (i think). I bought the RAM disk from Bud Mills at the Chicago Faire. It's heavily expanded with stacks of chips piggy-backing each other. Any idea which IC is the 32k? Need a photo?

Mark

If you plug in the RAM disk without any other expansion do you see 32K ? Please post a photo...

#5 Willsy OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:01 PM

I'll go give it a try! Haven't tried it yet!

#6 Willsy OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:30 PM

Okay, an update.

With the SAMS card removed and the Horizon card inserted (duh!) my system does a very good impression of a house brick. Ascetically more pleasing than a house brick, and certainly heavier, but a brick, all the same.

If I insert the Horizon card and the SAMS together then all is well. Nothing goes bang, and there is no fire. A bit like a house brick.

It's tempting to assume therefore that the Horizon doesn't contain the 32K. However, am I jumping the gun? There are no batteries installed in the RAM disk and no ROS loaded. Not sure how to do that yet. That's the next step!

Here's a pic of the board. The board is dated 1986. As you can see, it's very heavily hacked.

Of the DIP switches, only switch #0 is in the on position. All the rest are off. What does that mean? Anyone?

Blimmin' neat board though, eh?

Mark

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#7 Willsy OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:41 PM

And while I'm at it, can anyone supply a ROS (with an appropriate installer program, which I assume is an ED/AS #5)?

I don't have any ROS disks. Bob sent me something but I couldn't get it to do anything.

Thanks

Mark

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:01 PM

View PostWillsy, on Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:41 PM, said:

And while I'm at it, can anyone supply a ROS (with an appropriate installer program, which I assume is an ED/AS #5)?

I don't have any ROS disks. Bob sent me something but I couldn't get it to do anything.

Thanks

Mark

The pictured Horizon Ramdisk is the original board upgraded to 256k, the 32k ram modification is not present.
Looks like the dipswitch is set for CRU >1000 - switch 1, not the best choice. (try >1400, switch 5 or >1500, switch 6 if available).


The current Horizon ROS (CFG is the loader) is here:

ftp://ftp.whtech.com/emulators/pc99/utils/ros814f.dsk

The manual for the ROS is here:

ftp://ftp.whtech.com/datasheets%20and%20manuals/Hardware/Horizon%20-%20Bud%20Mills%20Services/ROS8-14%20and%20rambo%20manual.pdf


... aren't these cards a dime a dozen?


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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:04 PM

Thanks Gazzo, most helpful... Shame it's only 256K but never mind, it's better than nothing...

Mark

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:10 PM

Mark,
I have a few of this same model that I picked up from Bud. One of the two is "Eunice #2" and probably came from Eunice Spooner's system. The one's I received were untested and in unknown state of operation, per Bud. The CRUs were all in the first position so it seems likely Bud tested them once upon a time. That little switch makes the card 'visible' when "up" and 'invisible' when "down". Looks like the great Gazoo got you hooked up with the good stuff needed to load and operate the card.

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:06 PM

Thanks! I see my board has a sticker on it that says Eunice #3 - so there you go! I hope it works :-o - Bud certainly said that it did! I didn't notice that little switch until you mentioned it (just checked the photo I took earlier). Hmmm... Well, I have a Fred Kaal HDX system in my PEB so I could probably load the ROS directly from my PCs hard-disk... It's getting a bit late though!

Mark




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