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[atari2600land]

This is not listed in the AA rarity guide. Fifth from the final item on this page:
http://www.platypusc...nteverhave.html
Anyone have any info on this one?

[JagChris]

I wonder if the Dyno Park Tycoon was ever released.

[rush6432]

Ahh phear... it became tetrisphere for the n64....

Weather or not a prototype/beta exists is still un-confirmed. There is a video of it somewhere i thought.... i could be wrong though.

Edited by rush6432, Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:32 PM.

[Austin]

The Jaguar rarity list hasn't been updated in a while. There's a lot of homebrew stuff missing from it that should be there. From what I can gather, it's not really focused on cancelled games either with the exception of a couple.

JagChris, on Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:31 PM, said:

I wonder if the Dyno Park Tycoon was ever released.

Yes, for the 3DO, it was.

[Gaztee]

As far as I am aware there is one copy somewhere, but it will never see the light of day as Nintendo will sue there person if it does!

[onlysublime]

played Tetrisphere via emulator the other day... such an incredibly awesome game. simple at the surface and deeper the more you play it. So sad that Nintendo snatched this away from the Jag. I remember reading the promising previews of it before Nintendo put down the cash.

I'm surprised that Nintendo hasn't rereleased this game as either a new release for the Wii or via their emulator offerings.

I hope that one day someone makes a facsimile of this and releases it on some other platform, be it Xbox Live Indie Games, XBLA, PSN, Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc. Would suck that this game die in obscurity.

[rush6432]

Unfortunatly atari probably wasnt going to offer them much for it and nintendo waved the cash in front of them. Given how atari treated developers back then for the jag id say it probably wasnt a bad move on the phear developers part...

[JagChris]

rush6432, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:05 PM, said:

Unfortunatly atari probably wasnt going to offer them much for it and nintendo waved the cash in front of them. Given how atari treated developers back then for the jag id say it probably wasnt a bad move on the phear developers part...

I'd agree with Rush. Its too bad they went with Nintendo but Atari most likely didnt see what Nintendo saw at that convention. Which was apparently a great game and a great development team. If they did they would of taken steps to make sure the Phear team was locked down to finish the game on the Jaguar. But they weren't known for making the smartest decisions.

[BuddyBuddies]

Lots of games were finished completely and lost, Ishar 3, Highlander 2 , Highlander 3, Kid Grid , Country Grid, Tinhead, Creature Shock, and many others.. The demo was shown of Phear so i'm sure it was atleast somewhat completed. Nintendo would have seen what they were paying for. Truth is the ROM is most likely buried for legal reasons.

[wozencl]

BuddyBuddies, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:19 AM, said:

Lots of games were finished completely and lost, Ishar 3, Highlander 2 , Highlander 3, Kid Grid , Country Grid, Tinhead, Creature Shock, and many others.. The demo was shown of Phear so i'm sure it was atleast somewhat completed. Nintendo would have seen what they were paying for. Truth is the ROM is most likely buried for legal reasons.

Were all of those games actually completed? I've seen the game design document for a Highlander sequel but nothing more concrete than that. It'd be interesting to have a list of games that are actually known to have been completed but remain unreleased/unseen in the wild.

[rush6432]

Highlander 2 exists.... someone has it here i think and its completed from what i heard but doubtfull it will get out..

[Austin]

BuddyBuddies, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:19 AM, said:

Lots of games were finished completely and lost, Ishar 3, Highlander 2 , Highlander 3, Kid Grid , Country Grid, Tinhead, Creature Shock

Doesn't look like we're missing much then.

[save2600]

Austin, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:15 PM, said:

BuddyBuddies, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:19 AM, said:

Lots of games were finished completely and lost, Ishar 3, Highlander 2 , Highlander 3, Kid Grid , Country Grid, Tinhead, Creature Shock

Doesn't look like we're missing much then.

Who knows... maybe it was vastly improved? Be awesome to see some of those supposed finished titles released someday.

[Austin]

save2600, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:20 PM, said:

Who knows... maybe it was vastly improved?

My guess is probably not.

[save2600]

Austin, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:06 PM, said:

save2600, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:20 PM, said:

Who knows... maybe it was vastly improved?

My guess is probably not.

Probably, but look at Cybermorph<>Battlemorph. In the case of Highlander, like to think a sequel to such a horribly executed game would try to redeem itself. You know, people learning from their mistakes... that whole chestnut.

[Austin]

save2600, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:22 PM, said:

Austin, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:06 PM, said:

save2600, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:20 PM, said:

Who knows... maybe it was vastly improved?

My guess is probably not.

Probably, but look at Cybermorph<>Battlemorph. In the case of Highlander, like to think a sequel to such a horribly executed game would try to redeem itself. You know, people learning from their mistakes... that whole chestnut.

True, but Battlemorph came out a couple of years after Cybermorph. My guess is if Highlander 2 was complete (and they were even working on a third), it was probably a rush job if it was finished only a year after the original came out. That's just speculation, of course.

[Jag_Slave]

The real pity is when members get their hands on unreleased betas, or unreleased completed games, or source code... they just sit on it. Even releasing the game for free is possible, but I think some people just like feeling important.

[JagChris]

save2600, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:22 PM, said:

Austin, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:06 PM, said:

save2600, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:20 PM, said:

Who knows... maybe it was vastly improved?

My guess is probably not.

Probably, but look at Cybermorph<>Battlemorph. In the case of Highlander, like to think a sequel to such a horribly executed game would try to redeem itself. You know, people learning from their mistakes... that whole chestnut.

I don't think in any way shape or form was BattleMorph vastly improved over Cybermorph. What was that 3do space shooter game we were all discussing a few threads back? Now that's what Battlemorph should of been over Cybermorph. Not the half ass poke at a sequel we ended up getting.

[Austin]

JagChris, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:07 PM, said:

I don't think in any way shape or form was BattleMorph vastly improved over Cybermorph. What was that 3do space shooter game we were all discussing a few threads back? Now that's what Battlemorph should of been over Cybermorph. Not the half ass poke at a sequel we ended up getting.

To each their own of course, but I felt Battlemorph had some nice upgrades that made it far more interesting to play. Eerie music, the ability to go under water (and the music flipping on the fly), the tunnels, the varied missions (instead of collecting the same capsules each and every mission), the bit of texture mapping added, the bosses, etc., etc. I actually feel comfortable in saying that Battlemorph is a GOOD game. Cybermorph, not so much. It's fun once in a while, but it's lacking in so many areas.

[JagChris]

Austin, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:16 PM, said:

JagChris, on Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:07 PM, said:

I don't think in any way shape or form was BattleMorph vastly improved over Cybermorph. What was that 3do space shooter game we were all discussing a few threads back? Now that's what Battlemorph should of been over Cybermorph. Not the half ass poke at a sequel we ended up getting.

To each their own of course, but I felt Battlemorph had some nice upgrades that made it far more interesting to play. Eerie music, the ability to go under water (and the music flipping on the fly), the tunnels, the varied missions (instead of collecting the same capsules each and every mission), the bit of texture mapping added, the bosses, etc., etc. I actually feel comfortable in saying that Battlemorph is a GOOD game. Cybermorph, not so much. It's fun once in a while, but it's lacking in so many areas.

Yeah I agree it had some nice upgrades but it just wasn't enough overall IMO. There were parts that were completely lazy. How about the force fields? How about the electrical power lines from the batteries to the force fields or whatnot? They were just little floating squares going by. They could of done better than that for a graphic effect. They didnt even try. And the developers fascination with our ship shooting 'ping pong balls'. And the flying homing missile hammer, what the hell was that? A homing hammer that flies around and bonks the enemy on the head? Interesting as a lark but goofy and out of touch for the developers to put ih as a serious feature IMO. The fish were the same size as the submarines.

I dunno maybe I'm too picky I just thought the upgrades were the bare minimum they could get by with to call it a sequel.